So I had an experience of discrimination against d.o.'s today

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I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.

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I'm assuming she's an old hag. Also, what a bi*tch for saying that right after you told her that's where you'll be going.

You should have said that YOU'D never be seen by a nurse that obviously failed basic human etiquette 101, while in nursing school.
 
cfdavid said:
I'm assuming she's an old hag. Also, what a bi*tch for saying that right after you told her that's where you'll be going.

You should have said that YOU'D never be seen by a nurse that obviously failed basic human etiquette 101, while in nursing school.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: She's just bitter because she's still a nurse!!
(Don't freakin flame the jbone today nurses, I put up w/ you **** all night at work...I need a break biotches :thumbdown: )
 
My husband was talking to an MD here in Colorado and mentioned to him that I got accepted to med school. The MD asked where, and my hubby told him Maine - a DO school. The MD immediately said "nothing wrong with a DO. Lots of great DOs.. DO is a doc just like an MD". :D Then he wished us luck and said if he could do anything to help us to let him know.

Funny thing - most of the discrimination I've seen and heard of has been by paramedics, nurses, med students, and administrators that have no medical education whatsoever. I've seen no discrimination at all by MDs and DOs. Quite the opposite, in fact. And as for the lay public, I've had half a dozen acquaintances tell me to go DO because they "would NEVER go to an MD".
 
ShyRem said:
And as for the lay public, I've had half a dozen acquaintances tell me to go DO because they "would NEVER go to an MD".

Oh really?....
So even though DO bashing qualifies someone as "stupid", there's nothing wrong with MD bashing?
How interesting...
 
ShyRem said:
My husband was talking to an MD here in Colorado and mentioned to him that I got accepted to med school. The MD asked where, and my hubby told him Maine - a DO school. The MD immediately said "nothing wrong with a DO. Lots of great DOs.. DO is a doc just like an MD". :D Then he wished us luck and said if he could do anything to help us to let him know.

Funny thing - most of the discrimination I've seen and heard of has been by paramedics, nurses, med students, and administrators that have no medical education whatsoever. I've seen no discrimination at all by MDs and DOs. Quite the opposite, in fact. And as for the lay public, I've had half a dozen acquaintances tell me to go DO because they "would NEVER go to an MD".
It sounds like the MD was a bit defensive. Don't get me wrong, it's cool he said that, especially if he was sincere. However, it's unfortunate that the equality is even a question. I look forward to the day when I tell someone I'm going DO and they don't respond with ignorance, disdain, or from a need to make me feel good about my choice. Most of us are not insecure about going/being DO.
 
njaqua said:
I look forward to the day when I tell someone I'm going DO and they don't respond with ignorance, disdain, or from a need to make me feel good about my choice.

Well said.
 
dbth77 said:
I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.

She was a nurse.

You should have just laughed at her ignorance.
 
dbth77 said:
I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.

Don't sweat it. Just go back to the hospital you're working at after you receive your medical degree and have fun writing up all sorts of orders for her to follow. She's a nurse, and some of them have inferiority complexes. You'll run across it a lot, but don't let that get you down. Become the best physician you can and be secure in knowing that you're a good doc. Then write a bunch of orders for her to follow.
 
dbth77 said:
I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.

but she's probably been taking orders from one for 20 years!
 
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stoic said:
but she's probably been taking orders from one for 20 years!

Yeah, you're right. She's just too stupid to realize she's been taking orders from a DO. She's like "DO what? I don't get what I'm supposed to do, so I guess I won't do anything."
 
I've talked to a couple of MDs and both were fine with DOs and did not have anything negative to say about DOs

I have noticed to same thing, most DO bashing comes from those who are not MDs. pre MDs, nurses, etc. These folks really don't know the ins and outs of DO medicine. So don't let it worry you.
 
That is really odd in my experience. I am a nurse and I have NEVER heard any nurse flame being a DO EVER. In fact, to be 100 percent honest, you'd be suprised how many do not know what the difference is and many of them do not realize the DO vs MD bashing that exists.

Don't let one crazy nurse give you the wrong impression of all nurses. I hear that also that they can make it hard or easy for your during internship/residency---so be ware.

Nurses can also make it hard on a practicing physician---trust me on this one. Who wouldn't be pissed to get woke up frequently in the middle of the night for bull sh$t things?

I guess my point is, that nurses aren't totally subjected to physicians, and do not think that most of them want to be doctors--most of them don't. But it is true that some of them do have inferiority complexes.
 
Raven Feather said:
I guess my point is, that nurses aren't totally subjected to physicians, and do not think that most of them want to be doctors--most of them don't. But it is true that some of them do have inferiority complexes.

And we also musn't forget that many physicians have superiority complex, enjoying ordering people around just for the sake of it, etc.
 
Dr Trek 1 said:
And we also musn't forget that many physicians have superiority complex, enjoying ordering people around just for the sake of it, etc.

So do SOME nurses (my aunt being one of them) as well as the know-it-all attitude :eek:
 
Megboo said:
So do SOME nurses (my aunt being one of them) as well as the know-it-all attitude :eek:

I know. A friend of mine who is a surgeon who specializes in cancer heard that a person in our church had cancer. He told his wife, who happened to be a nurse, that if she had any questions to call him. She was like, "of course I don't have any questions, I'm a nurse!" I've gotten the same attitude from other nurses, the "of course I know everything" kind of attitude. It's very annoying.
 
My aunt in particular is really bad. My mother is an FP and my aunt is just an LPN, yet my aunt feels totally comfortable calling up my mother to have her prescribe ridiculous things (like prozac for her cat!). Of course my mother thinks she's nuts and ignores her. (It's my dad's sister).

My grandmother is also very, very ill, and instead of having her son and daughter in law (a CRNA and MD) be the healthcare power of attorney, my aunt talked her into making her the HCPOA (an LPN), because nurses "know just as much as doctors but are more real". My granmother, at 83, doesn't really know any better.

Some people are just stupid. Not ignorant, stupid.
 
Alright, as a nurse who will soon enough be a doc ;) I will be straight up honest on both sides of the fence.

There are some things that do not need to be told to nurses, like if a person has had chemo and starts to run a fever, it may indicate an infection (duh) which may mean that the white blood count is low from chemo therapy..you know stuff like that. But I do find, and it does irritate me, that at work there are some nurses who are know-it-alls....like "I dont know why Dr. Z did this, that doesn't make sense, it is stupid"----well it is probably because you haven't had the more indepth education is pathophysiology to know the regimen. Now, don't get me wrong, and don't be fooled--nurses are educated into pathophysiology of diseases, if they weren't they would be incompetent to monitor patients in the hospital in regards to signs and symptoms (although you will find some that you would question how they ever passed their boards, but by the same token you have that with docs too) but some "think" they know just as much but the fact is they don't know as much as the docs. The docs do, however, rely on the nurses assessment since they are with the patients a whole lot more at the hospital when having to treat something over the phone. I don't work at a teaching hospital, but I have been told by the docs I know that, in general, nurses know more than a 1st year intern.

And yes, there are docs that have superiority complexes, but nurses and other docs as well don't like these types. You will hear both docs and nurses talk about them and how they think they are "God."

You do also get some docs who expect nurses to know just as much as them too. For example, I had this one patient who had a very high potassium level. Potassium is excreted in feces and so a med was ordered to cause diarrhea and consequently potassium to be excreted along with it. Well, high potassium can cause cardiac dysrhythmias that can ultimately result in death. When the patient kept throwing up this med, this meant the patient's potassium level was not going to go down. So after about 4 hours of trying to get this med down but couldn't, I called the doc not knowing if the patients potassium level was still creeping upward and didn't know how much
of a danger this particular patient was in cardiac-wise. I didn't know when the
the doc was going to make rounds so I thought I'd give her a call, after all, I would hate not to call and have this patient code because of a hight potassium. The doc told me, "This can wait until I come up to the floor in an hour." But said it irritatingly. When she got to the floor, I said, "Dr. X, I do not know how high this potassium can be unresolved for this patient without this patient experiencing dysrhythmias, so I called not knowing whether or not it could wait...I would rather be safe than sorry that I didn't call." She apologized. This is just one example, there are others.

Anyway, just offered this for more insight.
 
Way to go, Raven Feather!

My mother was also a nurse who became an MD. She told me of an experience with a "God-complex" MD who told her "If you think you know everything, then why don't YOU have an MD instead of being an RN?". Now she has one and she DOES know everything :eek: (joking - she has an amazing memory).

So yeah, there are people in every profession on both sides of the fence.
 
Keep in mind that much of physicians' knowledge is from practical experience. Ask any MD or DO who has been practicing for 30 years what knowledge they remember and use from MSI and MSII. Much of their knowledge comes from practical experience.

This is why there are some nurses- like ER nurses who have worked in busy city ERs for 30 years- who can have just as much, if not more practical experience than the physician. Although this may not technically qualify them to make the tough decisions that physicians do, many nurses have excellent insight you won't always get from the doctor (for a variety of reasons).

I am not nurse or doctor bashing here. I'm simply stating that they are both needed for a quality healthcare system- and that nurses sometimes have incredible insight into medical problems- not only from their academics but mostly from their practical experience.
 
Dr Trek 1 said:
Keep in mind that much of physicians' knowledge is from practical experience. Ask any MD or DO who has been practicing for 30 years what knowledge they remember and use from MSI and MSII. Much of their knowledge comes from practical experience.

This is why there are some nurses- like ER nurses who have worked in busy city ERs for 30 years- who can have just as much, if not more practical experience than the physician. Although this may not technically qualify them to make the tough decisions that physicians do, many nurses have excellent insight you won't always get from the doctor (for a variety of reasons).

I am not nurse or doctor bashing here. I'm simply stating that they are both needed for a quality healthcare system- and that nurses sometimes have incredible insight into medical problems- not only from their academics but mostly from their practical experience.


Amen to that. Nurses begin to learn the medical regimens and what labs to order according to signs, symptoms, diseases just from years of experience. I will never forget the day I was a newer nurse and I interrupted my new buddy cardiologist over the phone by telling him what further orders he was going to give me on direct admission with a certain diagnosis. We both laughed and he said, "Well, I guess you are catching on."
 
Raven Feather said:
Amen to that. Nurses begin to learn the medical regimens and what labs to order according to signs, symptoms, diseases just from years of experience. I will never forget the day I was a newer nurse and I interrupted my new buddy cardiologist over the phone by telling him what further orders he was going to give me on direct admission with a certain diagnosis. We both laughed and he said, "Well, I guess you are catching on."

lol awesome

I know I'm going to get bashed for saying this-- but I have always kind of felt that if someone fresh out of undergrad who always wanted to be a doctor and was of average intelligence was just given a MD or DO and was thrown into a demanding residency program (as long as they had someone closely watching them to make sure they didn't kill anyone) and then given a full time faculty position somewhere- could be an excellent physician in 10-20 years. It is possible that no one would ever know they didn't go to medical school. They would read up on each case they had, and pick up stuff from their peers, etc.

I am not saying I condone this approach, but I'm just saying it's my hypothesis. Medical school may just improve the learning curve :laugh:
 
dbth77 said:
I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.

I believe D.O.'s are just as competent as any M.D. Unfortunately, there is much ignorance about D.O.'s and also in some southern states and countries a D.O. degree is not recognized as a medical degree. I think that there should be more lobbying done on behalf of D.O.'s. I respect D.O's and have met some who are very well-qualified and just plain outstanding.

psychedo2b
 
psychedoc2b said:
I believe D.O.'s are just as competent as any M.D. Unfortunately, there is much ignorance about D.O.'s and also in some southern states and countries a D.O. degree is not recognized as a medical degree. I think that there should be more lobbying done on behalf of D.O.'s. I respect D.O's and have met some who are very well-qualified and just plain outstanding.

psychedo2b
I think DO's are licensed in all 50 states.
 
PlasticMan said:
I think DO's are licensed in all 50 states.

That's great!! I am glad to hear this.

I wonder why it is difficult for D.O's to be accepted then.

I think as the number of D.O.'s increase and receive more exposure, the ignorance will die down.

psychedoc2b
 
psychedoc2b said:
That's great!! I am glad to hear this.

I wonder why it is difficult for D.O's to be accepted then.

I think as the number of D.O.'s increase and receive more exposure, the ignorance will die down.

psychedoc2b
Increasing the competitiveness for acceptance to Osteopathic schools as more people apply...
 
psychedoc2b said:
That's great!! I am glad to hear this.

I wonder why it is difficult for D.O's to be accepted then.

I think as the number of D.O.'s increase and receive more exposure, the ignorance will die down.

psychedoc2b

It's not. There are laws that prevent this from happening.
 
OSUdoc08 said:
It's not. There are laws that prevent this from happening.

I am really glad!

I am from IL and have worked with many D.O.'s. I had no problem working with them.

I have to admit I don't know much about O.M.M. but do believe it could be beneficial for some.

There were a some D.O.'s in my M.D. school that offered O.M.M. for their patients.

I wish you the best!
psychedoc2b
 
njaqua said:
It sounds like the MD was a bit defensive. Don't get me wrong, it's cool he said that, especially if he was sincere. However, it's unfortunate that the equality is even a question. I look forward to the day when I tell someone I'm going DO and they don't respond with ignorance, disdain, or from a need to make me feel good about my choice. Most of us are not insecure about going/being DO.

my sentiments exactly.
 
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jbone said:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: She's just bitter because she's still a nurse!!
(Don't freakin flame the jbone today nurses, I put up w/ you **** all night at work...I need a break biotches :thumbdown: )
 
aside from a minority in the public, i don't think too many people even give the MD/DO thing much thought. and as far as medical professionals are concerned, most docs are more interested in where you did your residency.

i'm from michigan, which is a big DO state, so maybe my experiences reflect that. but, i see a lot of DO specialists practicing side by side with their MD counterparts. and at that level, it's ridiculous for any superiority complex to be created based on a degree. it's way more about results and skill at that stage of the game. because in the real world, you can run but you can't hide! lol so, the b.s. get's put on the backburner where it belongs, and again, skill and patient satisfaction become what really matter.
 
ShyRem said:
My husband was talking to an MD here in Colorado and mentioned to him that I got accepted to med school. The MD asked where, and my hubby told him Maine - a DO school. The MD immediately said "nothing wrong with a DO. Lots of great DOs.. DO is a doc just like an MD". :D Then he wished us luck and said if he could do anything to help us to let him know.

Funny thing - most of the discrimination I've seen and heard of has been by paramedics, nurses, med students, and administrators that have no medical education whatsoever. I've seen no discrimination at all by MDs and DOs. Quite the opposite, in fact. And as for the lay public, I've had half a dozen acquaintances tell me to go DO because they "would NEVER go to an MD".

OK just to clarify the ignorance isn't an epidemic. I am a paramedic that is also an aspiring D.O., also my wife is an RN that supports my decision and knows the similarities and differences between allopathic and osteopathic medicine. We both respect D.O.s and our own family doctor is a D.O.

Good Luck all. I just wanted to let you know all of us aren't bad. I didn't read any further, so if anyone else already came in defense sorry. :)
 
PlasticMan said:
I think DO's are licensed in all 50 states.
Quite right. D.O.s have unlimited pracrice in Medicine and surgery in all 50 states of the union.
 
Many people are quick to judge what they really know nothing about. Here in the great state of Louisiana there are very few D.O.s. So when I tell someone that’s what I want to do, they say ignorant things like. “Yeah, but they don’t go to medical school do they?” Or “Osteo-what?” Or “isn’t that kind of like a chiropractor?” Oh I almost forgot, “they don’t have a medical license do they.” It really gets annoying sometimes. Check out this story. I shadowed this one MD (internal medicine) and he was an awesome all-around physician/guy. However, he had many mixed views about D.O’s. He associated them with Chiropractors and in the same breath told me that one of the best Cardiologists he had ever known was a D.O. I don’t see how chiropractic methods could be confused with cardiology. When I asked him about the D.O. that practiced a few halls over from him (she was also internal medicine and had just as many patients scheduled as he did), he replied, “ummmm Dr. Kidd is ummmm different than most D.O.’s. They’re not all as good as she is.” Take into consideration that Dr. Kidd was the only D.O. at this hospital. The M.D. based his opinions on ignorance and hearsay in a state where few D.O.s even practice, not the experience of actually working with one. One of the administrators that I know said that the only reason a M.D. would probably have a problem with a D.O. would be because they are seen a competition. It’s either an ego thing or either they feel threatened. Don’t get me wrong; I think M.D.s and D.O.s are equally competent. It just pisses me off when an M.D. bases his/her opinion of a physician not on the way they practice or how productive they are, but rather just on the initials behind their last name. It just seems like a low blow to me.
 
dbth77 said:
I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.


Punch her in the Ovary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Raven Feather said:
For example, I had this one patient who had a very high potassium level. Potassium is excreted in feces and so a med was ordered to cause diarrhea and consequently potassium to be excreted along with it.

That's a very odd therapy for hyperkalemia. Depending on the circumstances one might consider kayexalate, calcium chloride, insulin, albuterol, a non-K-sparing diurectic (i.e. furosemide), etc., but diarrhea as treatment?
 
Dr Trek 1 said:
lol awesome

I know I'm going to get bashed for saying this-- but I have always kind of felt that if someone fresh out of undergrad who always wanted to be a doctor and was of average intelligence was just given a MD or DO and was thrown into a demanding residency program (as long as they had someone closely watching them to make sure they didn't kill anyone) and then given a full time faculty position somewhere- could be an excellent physician in 10-20 years. It is possible that no one would ever know they didn't go to medical school. They would read up on each case they had, and pick up stuff from their peers, etc.

I am not saying I condone this approach, but I'm just saying it's my hypothesis. Medical school may just improve the learning curve :laugh:


I guess thats what the PBL style of teaching is?
 
Ignorance is not bliss. Who cares man, go on your way and become a DO and show them. Lead by example!
 
Got a phonecall this past weekend while I was at my parents house and some random friend of my parents called and I happened to answer - asked what I'm doing nowadays ( I had no idea who he is - never met him) and I said studying medicine. He asked where and I said Western so he says " that's not an M.D. school. That's the other thing." I said, "yeah, D.O." so he goes on to say " I hear D.O.'s might know a couple of knowledgeable things too. How many D.O. schools are there. (I say about 25) and he says ' WHY?? ' " :laugh: I didn't let it get to me at all. You know what, a lot of this is not just not knowing what D.O.s are but an attack on a big accomplishment that we've made. I later asked my parents who he was and they said he called to see if it is true that my father was very sick (not true!) so he's just a certain type of person. On the other hand, a passenger on a Southwest Airlines flight I was on had a minor stroke and the sterwardess (sp :confused: announced on the intercom " If there are any M.D.s or D.O.s on the plane, please come to the front of the plane" a few times - so when it really matters, people know what a D.O. is and from there, the ignorant or jealous will discriminate - wow, I'll type forever when I have to study :idea:
 
dbth77 said:
I was working at the hospital when I was discharging someone when she started to talk to me about my future plans. I told her I was going to med school and she told me she had been a nurse for many years and asked me where I was going. She asked what was the med school that was closest to the hospital we were at and I told her it was Nova. She hadn't heard of it and asked if it was good and I told her it was a d.o. school and she got this disgusted look on her face and said, "oh, I would never see one of them." It really was a weird experience.

As an MD, I work with DOs all of the time. I refer patients to them and would see one myself (if I was shopping for a new doc). That said, there are (unfortunately) too many people who seem to have no clue as to what a DO is. That is a shame. I was watching a documentary on cruise ship fatalities and this crying widow was on talking about how the doctor that treated her husband was not a "real doctor but an osteopath". While the voice over did comment that osteopaths are licensed to practice medicine in all 50 states, it was weird. Anyway, sorry you had to go through this but realize that most (if not all) MDs trained recently will harbor no such bias. As for old crotchy nurses, just remember, when she took nursing school she was required to wear a funny white hat and bow in deference to all MDs. Old habits die hard. No newly trained nurse worth their weight in salt would think twice about this (ultimately) silly misconception.

(And don't flame me for my perception of old nurses. The dinosaurs of every profession should retire - especially when the training and knowledge base has so radically changed since their initial training)

- H
 
OnMyWayThere said:
On the other hand, a passenger on a Southwest Airlines flight I was on had a minor stroke and the sterwardess (sp :confused: announced on the intercom " If there are any M.D.s or D.O.s on the plane, please come to the front of the plane" a few times - so when it really matters, people know what a D.O. is and from there, the ignorant or jealous will discriminate - wow, I'll type forever when I have to study :idea:

Notice they don't ask for a "doctor". In my residency we are medical control for a major airline. As such I have experienced chiropractors, vets, and even a Ph.D. in sociology identify themselves as "doctors" to aircrews during medical crises. Of note only a chiro has attempted to insist on opening the drug kit on the aircraft to medicate the patient. He was shown back to his seat. :laugh:

- H
 
FoughtFyr said:
Notice they don't ask for a "doctor". In my residency we are medical control for a major airline. As such I have experienced chiropractors, vets, and even a Ph.D. in sociology identify themselves as "doctors" to aircrews during medical crises. Of note only a chiro has attempted to insist on opening the drug kit on the aircraft to medicate the patient. He was shown back to his seat. :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Out of curiosity, exactly what is on the med kit on a plane?
 
Dr Trek 1 said:
FoughtFyr said:
Notice they don't ask for a "doctor". In my residency we are medical control for a major airline. As such I have experienced chiropractors, vets, and even a Ph.D. in sociology identify themselves as "doctors" to aircrews during medical crises. Of note only a chiro has attempted to insist on opening the drug kit on the aircraft to medicate the patient. He was shown back to his seat. :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Out of curiosity, exactly what is on the med kit on a plane?

First line code drugs, IV solution, anti-emetics and valium. But each airline differs slightly. There is a list on the top of the pack so that the physician (MD/DO) assisting in a crisis knows what he/she has available. We "talk them through" dosing etc. if need be.

- H
 
Maybe this will cheer some of you up. Over the hollidays, I was at a spa. When I told the massuese I was at a DO school, she said she loved DO's. Yes, she was a very liberal person who also saw a natuorapth on occassion but it just goes to show you that there is significant number of people who are interested in seeing someone that is unique in some way. It all evens out in the end.
 
FoughtFyr said:
First line code drugs, IV solution, anti-emetics and valium. But each airline differs slightly. There is a list on the top of the pack so that the physician (MD/DO) assisting in a crisis knows what he/she has available. We "talk them through" dosing etc. if need be.

- H


So what happens if on a plane there are no medical professionals when they ask for one? Then do the flight attendents use the med kit with your instruction over the phone or something?
 
Dr Trek 1 said:
So what happens if on a plane there are no medical professionals when they ask for one? Then do the flight attendents use the med kit with your instruction over the phone or something?

good question! my brother's a doctor and was on a flight where someone had a heart attack. he did have to go and help out, but he said the flight attendants had a good handle on what to do. i guess maybe we're usually okay if there are no docs on board.
 
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