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Originally Posted by niranjan162
You can't assume it would cost the same amount just because we socialize our system.
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Why? The US is far and away the most expensive country when it comes to healthcare. We are much more likely to go down per capita than up, since we can't really get much higher than we are now.
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Originally Posted by niranjan162
We are gonna be adding 50 million people to system, im no mathematician, but that would INCREASE costs.
We also have a system where people dont goto the hospital for every little thing because of copays. Once this goes away every little cough and sniffle will require a hospital visit.
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This is where you're wrong and where the majority of people who (monstrously) don't support at the very least UHC, if not single-payer are wrong. The situation now is that people who don't have insurance DON'T go to the doctor until it is an absolute emergency,
costing us thousands more. And we still pay for their care, even if they don't. How? By hospitals raising prices and ****ing over cash patients. So we already pay for the uninsured, just with magic voodoo. That's what you're missing here. Insuring everyone would actually lower costs.
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Originally Posted by niranjan162
Also 61% or adults in america are obese and overweight. Almost 20% of children. These numbers are not as high in canada and thus your costs are less.
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We have a ton of fat people and the best way to take care of them is ensuring they have even less access to doctors?! I don't think you've thought this through.
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Originally Posted by niranjan162
Also doctors are allowed to be doctors and dont have to order expensive tests to defend themselves against lawyers.
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Canada does have pretty low rates of malpractice litigation, but they are more the exception to the rule than we are. That being said, the award amounts in the US are lower than in Canada or the UK.
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* In 2002, the United States spent $5,267 per capita on health care—53 percent more than Switzerland, the next-highest-spending country, and 140 percent more than the median OECD country.
* The number of hospital beds per capita in the U.S. was in the bottom quartile of OECD countries in 2002.
* In 2001, the average malpractice payment in the U.S. was $265,103, which was higher than Australia, but 14 percent below Canada and 36 percent below the United Kingdom.
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We also have the lowest infant mortality rate in the western world. Come on guys, we can do better.