Asmph

Okay. Insights? Comments?

I got accepted to UST, UERMMC, St. Luke's and ASPMH. Now that I'm at the verge of deciding, I want all comments and insights. I hope no bashing this time. Thank you!

For those who will go to ASMPH, what are your reasons? (I know the strengths of the school, I'm just a little hesitant).

hay... i'm having a similar problem... the difference is that my choice is leaning to asmph, but my family is insisting i go to SLCM, because they have the best facilities, but they can't seem to comprehend it is the school that has the problem and not the hospital... i know SLH is well equipped with the most hi-tech facilities, but from what i have heard from my classmates, the school has unstable administration, changing policies within semesters, and has a fairly average board-passing percentage. i dunno if the school have their own board topnotchers. they even spend a lot of money just to invite students to enter their school (such as lunches, catered hospital tours, etc). as for asmph, the fact that they're new means they haven't proven anything yet in the medical field. of course, it also stands as a problem if you want to practice abroad since they're still not a recognized school... we still have to wait and see what asmph graduates can do. haaay.....

I think ASMPH will be a good school. It is a combined MD/MS (management) program. If you will practice in the Philippines, it will be a good choice.
The drawbacks maybe that it's a 5 year program (you have to finish 5 years to get your degree- not a big deal as UP and St. Luke's have the same length of study) and if you are planning to practice in the US (most states will not recognize a school unless it is 5-7 years old).

yun nga eh. what to do kaya? confirmation for slots is only up to wednesday, btw, for asmph. so unless we're willing to throw away 15k, then we better decide na. My family is leaning towards asmph, simply because lahat ng lalaki atenista.

Originally Posted by despair

yun nga eh. what to do kaya? confirmation for slots is only up to wednesday, btw, for asmph. so unless we're willing to throw away 15k, then we better decide na. My family is leaning towards asmph, simply because lahat ng lalaki atenista.

S- recieved notes with client verbalizing the statement above indicating ambivalence over med schools

O- see facial icons used, with a down payment of 15k in ASMPH to be settled on Wednesday

A- R/T absence of medschool experience

P/I- From a forum I once attended, they will pretty much use students (and perhaps their credentials as well). ASMPH will be using their students to say how good a med school they are, not the facilities nor the teachers but the students. Its a business game for them. According to their speaker, it is not just a med school- it is not the medschool you go to because you didnt get accepted to the medschool of your choice. First of all, the school has not proven anything yet- how dare they even say that. Parang ganito yung sitwasyon, sa bernakular na wika. Ikaw ang nagbayo, ikaw ang nagsaing pero sila ang kakain. They chose students ranking in the upper 80 percentile- these students are fairly smart and intelligent when it comes perhaps to their premed courses. These students have the potential to make it (with colors) not only in medschool but also in the medical field. Once they do, they will perhaps own the credit for the students being able to achive such accolades whence it was more of the innate characteristic of the student (either he or she is really smart or hardworking to compensate for any knowledge deficit). Furthermore, who are going to teach the students? New graduates from UP, UST, FEU, UERM? Id rather stick with the terror professor who is very knowledgeable with the medical problems ill be asking him or her rather than a newbie teaching in a school whose curriculum is not even finished yet. Yes, they still dont have the curriculum for the higher years (said by a source in this site). It may be a good school someday but, as people say, medschool is no joke- so why compromisen (this on the basis of statistics)?

E- Either way, there wouldnt be a chance nor reason to regret- say that you enter ASMPH, you wont be able to compare any experience youll be getting because you wont be able to enter UST or UP or anyother school anyway- ther is really no point in regretting. You can perhaps make a rough estimate of how good ASMPH when it comes to internship or hospital experience with other schools of which you can compare your performance. There is no other way to do so- too bad if you chose ASMPH, you will be the pilot class.

what's with the whole SOAPE thing? I was just looking for practical advice, which, in all probability, is already in my head. Geez. Over analysis is just as dangerous, you know? Anyway, i'm sorry. I'm not sure if you've been in a situation like mine, so I really shouldn't expect empathy from you- kind of like your analogy of not being able to compare because I'm not in a another medical school.

its suppose to be a nursing talk for subjective, objective, assessment, and plan.

i would still advise sticking to the older schools UST, UE and St lukes.

I do not question the capabilities of the professors at ASMPH. Most likely they are also very experienced doctors working at other medical schools. The only problem is that as a new school,
ASMPH is very very prone to abrupt changes in their curriculum unlike in the other much older schools where sudden changes are minimal and is easily resolved, simply because the faculty members and administrators know their colleagues at the school and problems therefore are settled easily.

advantages of ASMPH
- probably a very good support from the university because its a new college and they want to build a very good reputation.
- combined degree in management

disadvantage
- new
- may encounter problems if you plan to leave the country for specialization/residency training.
- i really don't see any advantage the MS management offers. Medicine has a highly rigid, highly organized hierarchy that is very difficult to penetrate unless you start at the bottom. Postgraduate education as masters of public health, masters of hospital administration are already in existence and is probably a better option than Masters in management.
-base hospital is the Medical City which caters specifically to the class A and B patients. And as such, do NOT expect to be able to perform physical examination on these patients whenever you want, or expect them to disclose private information to a medical student.
- being a medical student you will have to face very unsanitary hospital environment, patients without any means of payment, patients who cannot afford even a basic blood count etc.. which are the realities of the Philippine health care system. You cannot be a doctor in this country if you only get to see patients who flash their HMO cards and expect immediate hotel style service.

These are of course problems a new school always faces. The system will most likely improve and stabilize after 3 to 4 years.

St lukes right now is still undergoing major shifts. They really want to be the best medical school by 2010 that from what i've heard its causing problems among the faculty members and putting a heavy strain on their students. If ASMPH will face the pressure of having a good performance on the board exam (kasi ateneo sila and they have this notion to be the "best"), expect the same kind of pressures and problems soon.

My advice would be to stick to the more stable and older school for now... goodluck

well, I go for ASMPH!!!.. For it's better to be a multi-rounded clinician someday.. You can function in various areas, as well as in the community setting(with such a great emphasis), with full medical competence and management skill.. Ateneo's med program is boltin' out from the blue and it is aimed to summon future docs, that our "El Filipinas", badly need..

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Hi guys. Im a 4th year Biology student who will be graduating this March and I'll be taking the NMAT in December.. so really nervous ...
Anyways i'd like to know what's the cut-off score to get in ASMPH...
Im actually torn between ASMPH and St. Luke's...
what are the pros and cons of the two (especially on tuition, faculty and curriculum) and how many applicants are admitted in freshman year??

Insights/opinions/advice will be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks

Im an incoming med student this june 2010, and im torn between USTFMS and ASMPH... I want to go to Ateneo, but my family thinks it would be wiser if I go to UST instead. What do you guys think?

One of the good things about UERM is the strong alumni establishment in the United States. I'm not sure about ASMPH though. How new is ASMPH anyways?

Originally Posted by Jralf2010

One of the good things about UERM is the strong alumni establishment in the United States. I'm not sure about ASMPH though. How new is ASMPH anyways?

their first batch of students are just about to graduate.
while there may not be many ASMPH graduates yet, theres a wide network of ADMU graduates who may be willing to help for now. Ateneans are all about school pride. haha

So you guys confirming later on today or tomorrow? Planning on being there early.. to ask questions too.

@ Tantrum - Sup doc

okay, it's 12:30pm now, I wasn't early and I'm #50 and they're only on #30.. might be here well into the afternoon.. any of you guys here? A bunch of ppl here came from ADMU, with their big canisters holding their diplomas..

yeah i saw a lot of ADMU grads. about half of the people there. saw about 5 people with UP diplomas, and 1 from CEU. highest number i saw that an applicant was carrying around was #65 as of 1:30pm so im guessing around 70 people were able to confirm today. if you havent confirmed yet you better go early tomorrow. i got there a little after 11 and only finished at around 2