match results 2012

here is a thread for sharing the various match results. I have touroCOM-NY

I know people of the school are probably taking bets as to when Id post this. whoever bet "immediately" is the winner. selected locations of match site for the aoa and nrmp. we were not told what field they matched into, but by location alone I'm extremely excited to see these results.

AOA-accredited and Military Match Programs

Walter Reed Army Medical Center

PCOM/Abington

St Barnabas (Bronx)

PCOM/Geisinger

UMDNJ-SOM/South Jersey

NYCOM/Coney Island

University Hospital, Richmond, Ohio

UNECOM/Kent Hospital (Rhode Island)

St John Providence Health System (Warren, Michigan)

St John’s Episcopal Hospital

Womack Army Community Hospital (Fayetteville, NC)

UMDNJ/Lady of Lourdes

Wilford Hall USAF Medical Center (Lackland AFB)

NYCOM/Lutheran Medical Center

PCOM/Aria Health (Frankford)

LECOM/Allegheny

Tripler Army Medical Center, Hawaii

Garden City Hospital, Michigan

ACGME Programs

New York Hospital Center Queens

St Luke’s Roosevelt

UC Irvine

UPMC Pittsburgh

Baylor

UMDNJ-RW Johnson

Hershey Medical Center

Lenox Hill Hospital

Einstein/Beth Israel

Albert Einstein Medical Center (PA)

New York Medical College/Richmond University

New York Medical Center/Westchester

North-Shore-LIJ (Manhasset)

Maimonides

SUNY Downstate

Cooper University Hospital

Thomas Jefferson University Hospital

NYU School of Medicine

Johns Hopkins Hospital

Lincoln Medical Center

University of Maryland

Mt Sinai Hospital

Indiana University

New York/Presbyterian/Columbia and Cornell

Emory University School of Medicine

Bridgeport Hospital

Baystate Medical Center

St Barnabas (New Jersey)

Morristown Mountainside (New Jersey)

Brooklyn Hospital

Crozer-Chester Medical Center

Louisiana State University School of Medicine

There are some great names there but to me it's irrelevant without knowing which program. There is a big difference between FM at say U of Chicago vs Ophthalmology.

This reminds me of the shivers pre-meds get looking at their prospective schools list and seeing "johns Hopkins". It's all just a name game.

Originally Posted by TeamZissou

There are some great names there but to me it's irrelevant without knowing which program. There is a big difference between FM at say U of Chicago vs Ophthalmology.

This reminds me of the shivers pre-meds get looking at their prospective schools list and seeing "johns Hopkins". It's all just a name game.

Oh i agree 100%. I was just texting a friend that the names are all impressive but that the sinai and beth israeel ones are probably PMnR or FP. If we were to guess. We wish we knew the rotation types.

Im sure some 4th years will come from the woodwork and elaborate on them.

Yup it's amazing, after looking at these things for about the last 5 years the only relevant information I get from them is pertaining to about 2 specialties I'm interested in and I know which programs are strong. As far as the specialties I'm not as familiar with I just take it as "yup that person matched, great".

This year seemed to be a competitive year for ACGME EM and Anesthesia, two specialties DOs typically do alright in, it's gonna be interesting to see the match stats when the reports come out.

I think the next three years we are gonna start seeing the bottleneck from the increased class sizes finally graduating.

Apparently the Hopkins match was anasthesia. So thats pretty good!

Originally Posted by DocEspana

Apparently the Hopkins match was anasthesia. So thats pretty good!

Yup definitely solid, program known to take DOs, not known as top tier program in gas but a great program with some nice name recognition to go with it

Here's complete match list for RVU (ACGME, AOA, Military)

CLASS OF 2012 ALL MATCH RESULTS
Specialty by Number and Location
Specialty
Location
Anesthesiology 11
Cleveland Clinic, Oh
U Colorado, Denver, CO
BAMC
Loyola Univ Med Ctr, IL
South Pointe Hosp, OH
Hershey Med/Penn State, PA
BAMC
Hershey Med/Penn State, PA
U Kansas SOM - Kansas City, KS
WestUComp/Riverside County, CA
U Nebraska Affil Hosps, NE

Emergency Medicine 15
Columbia Hosp/St. Lucie, FL
Summa Health, OH
OUCOM/St John Med Ctr, OH
OSUCOM/Southwest Med Ctr, OK
Christus Spohn Mem Hosp, TX
U Nevada Affil Hosps, NV
St Lukes' Hosp-Allentown, PA
South Pointe Hosp, OH
Synergy Med Ed Alliance, MI
WSU/Detroit Med Ctr, MI
UNECOM/Kent Hosp, RI
U Kentucky Med Ctr, KY
U Iowa Hosps & Clinics, IA
NYCOM/Newark Beth Is/St Barnabas, NJ
WVSOM/Ohio Valley Med Ctr/WV

Family Medicine 28
LECOM/St Petersgurg Gen Hosp, FL
U Colorado, Fam Med/Swedish, CO
Camp Pendleton, CA
Clarkson Fam Med, NE
St Anthony North, CO
U of Wyoming, Casper, WY
Travis AF Base, CA
UNTHSCTCOM/Plaza Med-Ft. Worth, TX
U Oklahoma COM, OK
UNECOM/Eastern Maine, ME
UNECOM/Eastern Maine, ME
NSUCOM/North Broward Hosp, FL
MWU-CCOM/Advocate Bromenn Med, IL
OSUCOM/St Anthony Hosp, OK
OSUCOM/Southeastern OK, OK
U Kansas SOM-Wichita, KS
UMDNJSOM/AHS Overlook, NJ
WESTUCOMP/St Mary's Pueblo, CO
Camp Pendleton, CA
Ft. Bragg, NC
Firelands Reg Med Ctr, OH
PCOM/Pinnaclehealth Hosp, PA
Via Christi Reg Med Ctr, KS
UTMB-Texas
KCOM/U of WY, Casper, WY
OSUCOM/Med Ctr Southeastern, OK
OSUCOM/Med Ctr Southeastern, OK
TUCOM-CA/Valley Hosp Med Ctr, NV

FM/EM 1
Aria Health, PA

Internal Medicine 25
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
U Colorado, Denver, CO
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
MWU-AZCOM/Verde Valley, AZ
William Beaumont Med Ctr, TX
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
TUCOM-CA/Valley Hosp Med Ctr, NV
OK State Univ Med Ctr, OK
UNTHSCTCOM/Bay Area Corpus Chris, TX
NSUCOM/North Broward Hosp, FL
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
NSUCOM/Largo Med Ctr, FL
VCOM/Lewis Gale Hosp, VA
Exempla St. Joe Hosp, CO
Ingham Reg Med Ctr, MI
MSUCOM/St Joseph Mercy Oakland, CA
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
Parkview Med Ctr, CO
Banner Good Sam, AZ
UNTHSCTCOM/Plaza Med-Ft Worth, TX
UNTHSCTCOM/Plaza Med-Ft Worth, TX
UNTHSCTCOM/Bay Area Corpus Chris, TX
UNTHSCTCOM/Bay Area Corpus Chris, TX
USAF Med Ctr (Keesler) Biloxi, MS

IM/EM 1
St John Providence Health Sys, MI

Neurology 1
Madigan Army Med Ctr, WA

OB/GYN 6
Tripler AF Base/Grant Med, HI
St John Providence Health Sys, MI
Botsford Hosp, MI
Brooke Army Med Ctr, TX
Metro Health Hosp, MI
Madigan Army Med Ctr, WA

Ortho Surgery 2
St. Louis, MO
OUCOM/Doctor's Hosp, OH

Oto Facial & Plastic Surg 1
OK State U Med Ctr, OK

Pathology 1
LSU, LA

Pediatrics 11
OUCOM/Doctors Hosp, OH
NSUCOM/N Broward Hosp, FL
OK State U Med Ctr, OK
U Conn Health Ctr, CT
Columbia Hosp/Palms West, FL
Childrens Mercy Hosp, MO
U Wisconsin Hosp & Clin, WI
U Conn Health Ctr, CT
Loyola Univ Med Ctr, IL
U Arizona Affil Hosps, AZ
UTMB Galveston, TX

Psychiatry 4
U IL Methodist Med Ctr, IL
Baylor Col Med, TX
Univ of HI
Columbia Hosp/University, FL

Radiology 2
OUCOM/Grandview Hosp, OH
Drexel Univ Hahnemann Hosp, PA

Surgery 4
Madigan Army Med Ctr, WA
Pontiac Osteo Hosp, MI
St Louis Univ SOM, MO
Naval Hosp (San Diego) CA

Traditional 12
St Joseph-Mercy, Pontiac, MI
LECOM/Wellington Med Ctr, FL
WESTUCOMP/Riverside Cty Reg, CA
Eisenhower Army Med Ctr, GA
Millcreek Comm Hosp, PA
Naval Hosp (Portsmouth) VA
KYCOM/Our Lady of Bellefonte, KY
Good Sam Reg Med Ctr, Corvalis, OR
Madigan Army Med Ctr, WA
UNECOM/Berkshire Med Ctr, MA
Chino Valley Med Ctr, CA
OUCOM/Affinity Med Ctr, OH

Originally Posted by DocEspana

Apparently the Hopkins match was anasthesia. So thats pretty good!

hopkins anes though not initially seems to be becoming more DO friendly. we've had 3 go in the last 2 years (incl one this year to their research track and one just reg anes).

Originally Posted by Euthymia

Student reported

Anesthesiology Doctor's Hospital

Emergency Medicine MSU Kalamazoo
Emergency Medicine Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Emergency Medicine Mclaren Oakland (formerly POH)
Emergency Medicine Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Emergency Medicine Saint James
Emergency Medicine Denver Health

EM/FM Aria Health - PCOM

Family Medicine St. John Macomb Hospital
Family Medicine Central Washington
Family Medicine UW Medicine Valley Medical Center
Family Medicine AnMed Health
Family Medicine Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Family Medicine U of Illinois, Methodist Medical Center
Family Medicine Sutter
Family Medicine Loma Linda University (Hanford)
Family Medicine Natividad Medical Center
Family Medicine Valley consortium-UCD
Family Medicine White Memorial Medical Center
Family Medicine Samaritan
Family Medicine Kaiser-Fontana
Family Medicine UC Davis - Mercy Medical Center
Family Medicine Sutter Health Center
Family Medicine Spartanburg Regional Medical Center
Family Medicine Memorial Medical Center
Family Medicine UCSF-Fresno
Family Medicine Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Family Medicine UPMC St Margaret
Family Medicine Boston University Medical Center
Family Medicine Downey Regional Medical Ctr

General Surgery Peninsula Hospital
General Surgery Mercy Medical Center- Des Moines
General Surgery Henry Ford

FP/NMM Larkin Community Hospital Integrated
FP/NMM Florida Hospital - East Orlando

Internal Medicine St. John Macomb Hospital
Internal Medicine UCSF Fresno
Internal Medicine University of South Alabama
Internal Medicine Loyola Univ. Medical Center
Internal Medicine Pacific Hospital
Internal Medicine Fairfield Medical Center
Internal Medicine Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital
Internal Medicine White Memorial Medical Center
Internal Medicine Legacy-Emanuel
Internal Medicine Loma Linda University
Internal Medicine Santa Clara Valley Med Ctr
Internal Medicine Lewis Gale Montegomery Regional
Internal Medicine Valley Hospital
Internal Medicine University of Arizona
Internal Medicine Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Internal Medicine OHSU
Internal Medicine Kaiser Oakland
Internal Medicine Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Internal Medicine Internship Naval Medical Center San Diego

Neurology Kaiser Los Angeles
Neurology Penn State
Neurology UC Davis
Neurology Kaiser Los Angeles

Neurosurgery Louisiana State University

NMM/OMM St. Barnabas Hospital

OB/GYN Saint Francis Hospital
OB/GYN Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
OB/GYN South Jersey Regional Medical Center
OB/GYN Beth Israel Medical Center

Ophthalmology Valley Hospital

Pathology University of Southern California

Pediatrics UCSF-Fresno
Pediatrics UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson
Pediatrics UCSF-Fresno
Pediatrics UCSF Fresno
Pediatrics USC
Pediatrics Loma Linda University

PM&R Sparrow, Michigan State University

Prelim. Surgery UCSF-East Bay

Preliminary IM San Joaquin General Hospital

Psychiatry LSU
Psychiatry Harbor-UCLA
Psychiatry St. Luke's-Roosevelt
Psychiatry Walter Reed National Military Medical Center
Psychiatry UT Southwestern
Psychiatry UCSF Fresno
Psychiatry Hennepin-Regions
Psychiatry Samaritan
Psychiatry Larkin Community Hospital
Psychiatry University of Arizona
Psychiatry USC
Psychiatry Largo Medical Center
Psychiatry Largo Medical Center
Psychiatry UCSF

Radiology Eastern Virginia Medical School

Traditional Rotating Internship Arrowhead Regional Medical Center
Traditional Rotating Internship Valley Hospital
Transitional Year Naval Medical Center San Diego

What school is this for?

Originally Posted by scornev02

What school is this for?

It said Touro-CA in the post title bar.

Western University of Health Sciences (roughly 75% of the class)

Anesthesiology
Cleveland Clinic Foundation ACGME
Georgia Health Sciences University ACGME
State Univ of New York--Bufallo ACGME
Tufts Medical Center ACGME
University of Alabama, Birmingham ACGME
UC Davis ACGME
University of Florida ACGME
University of Texas, Houston ACGME
University of Texas, Houston ACGME

Emergency Med
Kern Medical Center ACGME
Maimonides Medical Center ACGME
Metro Health / Cleveland Clinic ACGME
University of Nevada - Las Vegas ACGME
University of Illinois ACGME
Arrowhead Regional Medical AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical AOA
Botsford General Hospital AOA

Emergency Med/ Pediatrics
University of Arizona Tucson, AZ ACGME

Family Med/Emergency Med
McLaren - Oakland Pontiac, MI AOA

Family Med
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center ACGME
Brown ACGME
Cox Health ACGME
Califorina Hospital ACGME
Contra Costa Regional Medical Center - UC Davis ACGME
Contra Costa Regional Medical Center - UC Davis ACGME
Idaho State University ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Fontana ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Orange County ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Riverside ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - San Diego ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - San Diego ACGME
Long Beach Memorial Medical Center-UCI ACGME
Northridge Hospital Medical Center ACGME
Northridge Hospital Medical Center ACGME
Pomona Valley Medical Center ACGME
Pomona Valley Medical Center ACGME
Pomona Valley Medical Center ACGME
Sutter Med Ctr of Santa Rosa ACGME
UC Davis - Redding ACGME
UC Davis - Stockton ACGME
UC Irvine ACGME
UCLA - Harbor ACGME
UC San Diego ACGME
UCSF - Fresno ACGME
Univ Colorado HealthOne/Rose ACGME
University of Nevada-Las Vegas ACGME
White Memorial Medical Center ACGME
Whittier Family Medicine/ Tropical medicine track ACGME
NE IA ACGME
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Chino Valley Medical Center AOA
Corvallis Family Medicine AOA
Downey Regional Medical Center AOA
Downey Regional Medical Center AOA
Downey Regional Medical Center AOA
East Pierce Family Medicine AOA
Pacific Hospital of Long Beach AOA
Providence Alaska Medical Center AOA
SIU/Memorial Hospital AOA

General Surgery
Dartmouth (Prelim) ACGME
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth ACGME/Mil
University of New Mexico ACGME
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Detroit Medical Center AOA
Genesys Regional Medical Center AOA

Internal Med
Banner Good Samaritan ACGME
Indiana University ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles ACGME
Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan ACGME
Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan ACGME
Loma Linda University ACGME
Loma Linda University ACGME
Loma Linda University ACGME
Loma Linda University ACGME
Loyola University ACGME
Mount Sinai Medical Center ACGME
Santa Clara Valley Medical Center ACGME
Scripps Mercy Hospital ACGME
UCLA Olive View ACGME
UCLA Olive View ACGME
UCSF Alameda County Medical Center ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
University of Chicago NorthShore ACGME
White Memorial Medical Center ACGME
White Memorial Medical Center ACGME
Wilford Hall/Brooke Army Medical Centers ACGME/Mil
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Danville Regional Medical Center AOA
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine AOA
Swedish Covenant Hospital AOA

Neurology
University of Arizona Medical Center ACGME
UC Irvine ACGME

Neurosurgery
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA

OB/GYN
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth ACGME/Mil
St. Francis ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
UCLA-Kern Medical Center ACGME
Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital AOA
Mercy Health AOA

Ophthalmology
State Univ of New York at Buffalo ACGME

Orthopedic Surgery
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center AOA
Riverside County Regional Medical Center AOA
Riverside County Regional Medical Center AOA

Pediatrics
CHLA ACGME
Kaiser Permanente - Sunset ACGME
Loma Linda University ACGME
Loma Linda Childrens ACGME
OHSU ACGME
University of Arizona ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
University of New Mexico ACGME
USC ACGME

PM&R
NUMC ACGME
SUNY Downstate ACGME
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY ACGME
UCI ACGME/AOA
UCLA/West LA VA ACGME/AOA
UCLA/West LA VA ACGME/AOA

Psychiatry
Banner Good Samaritan ACGME
Loma Linda University ACGME
OHSU ACGME
State Univ of New York at Buffalo ACGME
UCSF Fresno ACGME
University of Hawaii ACGME
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center AOA
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center AOA
Larkin Medical Center AOA

Radiology
Loma Linda University ACGME
University of Missouri - Kansas City/St. Lukes Hospital ACGME
Wilford Hall/Brooke Army Medical Centers ACGME
Bryn Mawr Hospital ACGME
St. Barnabas Hospital AOA
St. Barnabas Hospital AOA

Traditional Year
Madigan Army Medical Center ACGME
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth ACGME/Mil
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center AOA
Danville Regional Medical Center AOA
Largo Medical Center AOA
St. John's Episcopal Hospital AOA

Urology
Mt Clemens Consortium/ MSUCOM AOA
UMDNJ AOA

Originally Posted by bleeker10

Yea that's the way I read it but there weren't any Prelim designations in that match list so I wasn't completely sure.

The student that matched mayo-az gen-Surg was a categorical spot.
The other student who matched Urology at mayo-mn was also categorical.
This from a fellow KCOMer

Originally Posted by 307Doc

The student that matched mayo-az gen-Surg was a categorical spot.
The other student who matched Urology at mayo-mn was also categorical.
This from a fellow KCOMer

thank you for clearing that up. I had a feeling it was categorical.

Please post UP-KYCOM !!!! Just got accepted and am dying to know where y'all match

Any results back for NSU-COM?

The rumor-mill here is notorious for being inaccurate, and I'm tired of relying on it.

Originally Posted by munchymanRX

Any results back for NSU-COM?

The rumor-mill here is notorious for being inaccurate, and I'm tired of relying on it.

I went through the match lists on medicine.nova.edu from 2006-2011 and given the "made on" dates in the properties of the .pdfs (yes, this is how I procrastinate) we won't see for a while in an official capacity. I'm talking as late as June.

Originally Posted by IamaBanana

I went through the match lists on medicine.nova.edu from 2006-2011 and given the "made on" dates in the properties of the .pdfs (yes, this is how I procrastinate) we won't see for a while in an official capacity. I'm talking as late as June.

Good ol' Nova. They'll have a meeting about the meeting to discuss when they'll meet to compile it I'm sure.

It'll be interesting to see when it comes out!

Originally Posted by munchymanRX

Good ol' Nova. They'll have a meeting about the meeting to discuss when they'll meet to compile it I'm sure.

It'll be interesting to see when it comes out!

I was at the Clinical Ed department earlier today and they were going through the matchlist, I asked them to take a look, they said it was confidential and first has to go through OPTI, who will then approve it to be posted on the website.

Originally Posted by munchymanRX

Any results back for NSU-COM?

The rumor-mill here is notorious for being inaccurate, and I'm tired of relying on it.

The google spreadsheet is still being populated. Only 84 students have reported their matches. I'll post when there's a larger sample size. Frankly, it doesn't look that great from what I've seen so far. Not a lot of specialty matches, most of what's been reported falls in the EM/PMR/IM/FM category and most of the primary care reported is from the AOA match. A lot of TRI's, most a result from a failed EM match is my guess. The list might look better once the other 170 people in the class stop being lazy and post where they're going.

You'll have to wait until next year for the face melting matches. My class has several outstanding students and I'm curious to see how we'll do.

Originally Posted by doublefrick

Please post UP-KYCOM !!!! Just got accepted and am dying to know where y'all match

pikeville?

hope you have another acceptance.

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

pikeville?

hope you have another acceptance.

PNWU's unofficial match list thus far, from the class thread:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/atta...7&d=1332390838

26 FM, 13 IM, 5 Peds.

Originally Posted by DocEspana

ha I had to.

Any news from KCUMB yet? I haven't seen anything but I was hoping a current student had.

Originally Posted by docespana

+1

Originally Posted by LastPolarBear

Dang IM at UW. I wonder if it's traditional or primary care track?

Did you ever get an answer to this?

Originally Posted by scornev02

Did you ever get an answer to this?

Nope. Still patiently waiting for one.

Originally Posted by scornev02

Did you ever get an answer to this?

That pin is pointed at the exact hospital I'm working at right now. There's a Seattle/Boise Cagegorical Track UW-SOM IM residency program where you spend years 1 and 3 in Seattle and year 2 in Boise. The VA hospital here is the main residency site, but the two other big hospitals in town also allow for rotations.

I can't really tell if there's a difference, but there's a UWSOM-sponsored Boise Internal Medicine residency program, rotating through the exact same hospitals, but it looks like maybe all 3 years are in Boise.

It looks like University of Washington has a lot of these primary-care focused IM programs throughout the NW. I wouldn't call it a community program, though, but it's definitely not academic out here.

I've done some research on the Boise/UW IM track, and I believe that while graduates of the program have gone on to fellowships, it is rare and usually only in Pulm/CC. Interesting program though, and one that I'm considering.

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

pikeville?

hope you have another acceptance.

What's wrong with KYCOM?

Originally Posted by doublefrick

What's wrong with KYCOM?

Nothing at all. They are probably referring to the fact that KYCOM's waitlist doesn't (historically) see a lot of movement.

Originally Posted by doublefrick

What's wrong with KYCOM?

If you dont know, then its better off I don't tell you

Originally Posted by necronomicon

Nothing at all. They are probably referring to the fact that KYCOM's waitlist doesn't (historically) see a lot of movement.

I assume he's actually referring to the ridiculously terrible reputation their clinical years have on this forum. I cant comment on the veracity of it. But I'll say that I've added fuel to the fire since every experience I've had with KYCOM students has involved them telling me horror stories about their core rotations. But the n=3 or 4 for me. And I can think of plenty more than 3 people in my school who'd give poorly representative horror stories. I'm trying to be diplomatic about this.

Originally Posted by necronomicon

Nothing at all. They are probably referring to the fact that KYCOM's waitlist doesn't (historically) see a lot of movement.

But I'm asking about matches, not waitlist movement...

LMU-DCOM's matchlist is out.

And it's in its annoying format like last year.

http://www.lmunet.edu/dcom/pdfs/2012...y-location.pdf

Originally Posted by DocEspana

If you dont know, then its better off I don't tell you



I assume he's actually referring to the ridiculously terrible reputation their clinical years have on this forum. I cant comment on the veracity of it. But I'll say that I've added fuel to the fire since every experience I've had with KYCOM students has involved them telling me horror stories about their core rotations. But the n=3 or 4 for me. And I can think of plenty more than 3 people in my school who'd give poorly representative horror stories. I'm trying to be diplomatic about this.

I understand and am not taking offense. I just want to have all the info I can is all. So it is just the rotations that are bad like bad patient encounters or being unprepared or residency? I want to be able to land a good residency if I would graduate from here.

Originally Posted by doublefrick

I understand and am not taking offense. I just want to have all the info I can is all. So it is just the rotations that are bad like bad patient encounters or being unprepared or residency? I want to be able to land a good residency if I would graduate from here.

Received your PM.

Anyways. I did do some rotations alongside folks from that school. They couldn't tell a head from an ass if their lives depended on it. Had a few attendings tell me their impression of DOs was incredibly low from their experience dealing with those students til they had folks from my school rotate with these same attendings. You never see a KYCOM match list on SDN. they're awful from what I understand. they don't do shelves (if i remember correctly), their rotations are awful. I dont know much about the first two years, but their main perks are the freebies they give out.

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

Received your PM.

Anyways. I did do some rotations alongside folks from that school. They couldn't tell a head from an ass if their lives depended on it. Had a few attendings tell me their impression of DOs was incredibly low from their experience dealing with those students til they had folks from my school rotate with these same attendings. You never see a KYCOM match list on SDN. they're awful from what I understand. they don't do shelves (if i remember correctly), their rotations are awful. I dont know much about the first two years, but their main perks are the freebies they give out.

Similar experience with Pikeville students, and similar responses from attendings. I can't speak for them all, but there's enough negativity out there that I've had residents and attendings ask "You aren't from Pikeville, are you?" before I can even tell them my home school.

Originally Posted by LSU Alex

Similar experience with Pikeville students, and similar responses from attendings. I can't speak for them all, but there's enough negativity out there that I've had residents and attendings ask "You aren't from Pikeville, are you?" before I can even tell them my home school.

they confused you for a pikeville student?

talk about the ultimate zing.

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

they confused you for a pikeville student?

talk about the ultimate zing.

It was a "DO = Pikeville" situation. Cause we all know the only osteopathic school in the entire universe is in Pikeville. Thing is there were many DO students from other schools rotating through that program. It was just that the Pikeville students left that bad of an impression. Now I won't go so far as to say the whole school is like that, because I don't know. In any case, to the person who got that acceptance, you should be fine if you work your arse off learning your profession.

As far as the "zing" goes, my work ethic and desire to improve usually corrects any misgivings about working with a "lowly DO."

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

Received your PM.

Anyways. I did do some rotations alongside folks from that school. They couldn't tell a head from an ass if their lives depended on it. Had a few attendings tell me their impression of DOs was incredibly low from their experience dealing with those students til they had folks from my school rotate with these same attendings. You never see a KYCOM match list on SDN. they're awful from what I understand. they don't do shelves (if i remember correctly), their rotations are awful. I dont know much about the first two years, but their main perks are the freebies they give out.

Pretty much exactly what I've heard too. I will add that the students I talked to said that their pre-clinical was fine but that it had no formal clinical skills education and/or there was no education on how to apply the basic science knowledge to actual patients. They said that the step/level I boards blindsided them and the 3rd year clinicals were all either at backwater places with pathetic patient loads and no teaching, or at one or two big hospitals where they generally felt underprepared and had little support from the parent school.

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

Received your PM.

Anyways. I did do some rotations alongside folks from that school. They couldn't tell a head from an ass if their lives depended on it. Had a few attendings tell me their impression of DOs was incredibly low from their experience dealing with those students til they had folks from my school rotate with these same attendings. You never see a KYCOM match list on SDN. they're awful from what I understand. they don't do shelves (if i remember correctly), their rotations are awful. I dont know much about the first two years, but their main perks are the freebies they give out.

What types of things have they done?
I don't go there, I'm just really curious to see how bad a Pikesville student can be.

Originally Posted by thepoopologist

What types of things have they done?
I don't go there, I'm just really curious to see how bad a Pikesville student can be.

On obgyn they put the speculum into the rectum. If they were to instead insert it into their mouth it would solidify the above comment that they don't know their head from their ass. Never met one myself.

Originally Posted by st2205

On obgyn they put the speculum into the rectum. If they were to instead insert it into their mouth it would solidify the above comment that they don't know their head from their ass. Never met one myself.

Originally Posted by thepoopologist

What types of things have they done?
I don't go there, I'm just really curious to see how bad a Pikesville student can be.

Students from Pikeville aren't bad, just because they come from Pikeville. There are less than stellar students at every COM. However, traditionally, many onSDN love to put the other guy down and spread unsubstantiated rumors. Is it because they are bigots? Is it because they are trying to make themselves look better? It's hard to say.

The simple fact is... if you are willing to put in the work, you can get a good education at any school. You can get a good residency and a great spot as an attending as well. I've had a number of students from many schools rotate through our residency program. There has never been a single one that I don't consider salvagable. The biggest problem that occurs is in attitude. There are quite a few who would never get into my residency due to that. It's fine to be confident, but arrogance will never fly in my book. The thought that a whole school of people is incompetent because of where they go to school is pretty much an arrogant statement, IMHO. This "Oh, I don't know for them all, but every one I met is bad" kind of statement is not acceptable. It's spreading rumor and the authors should be ashamed of themselves for doing it.

Originally Posted by scpod

Students from Pikeville aren't bad, just because they come from Pikeville. There are less than stellar students at every COM. However, traditionally, many onSDN love to put the other guy down and spread unsubstantiated rumors. Is it because they are bigots? Is it because they are trying to make themselves look better? It's hard to say.

The simple fact is... if you are willing to put in the work, you can get a good education at any school. You can get a good residency and a great spot as an attending as well. I've had a number of students from many schools rotate through our residency program. There has never been a single one that I don't consider salvagable. The biggest problem that occurs is in attitude. There are quite a few who would never get into my residency due to that. It's fine to be confident, but arrogance will never fly in my book. The thought that a whole school of people is incompetent because of where they go to school is pretty much an arrogant statement, IMHO. This "Oh, I don't know for them all, but every one I met is bad" kind of statement is not acceptable. It's spreading rumor and the authors should be ashamed of themselves for doing it.

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1. Absolutely true. Definitely agree. No way around this one. There are stellar and sub-standard students in every med school.

2. Not just on SDN, but in their med school clicks... well, pretty much any where in life. Which is why people shouldn't look for some one else to validate their existence...

3. I have echoed this statement over and over. Your education is your own. The name of the school isn't gonna put knowledge in your head or capabilities in your hands. You must work wherever you go... doubly so if you want to be great at whatever you do.

4. First hand experience is not "rumor". When a group of people from a school develop a history at a hospital that causes attendings not to want to work with said group; there is something going on. Also while generalizing to the entire school may be inappropriate, your experience with small groups can not be ignored.

As I said previously to the newly minted KYCOM student, work your butt off. Learn everything you can. Get your hands on everything you can. You will fight perceptions that are not of your own doing all throughout life. You don't need anyone but yourself to validate yourself. If you suck, you know it. Work harder and get the help you need. Show you want to improve, and you will. Anyone will be happy to have that type of student/colleague no matter if you're from Pikeville, MeHarry, or Abu's School of Medicine on the Westside... well, maybe not that last one...

Originally Posted by scpod

Students from Pikeville aren't bad, just because they come from Pikeville. There are less than stellar students at every COM. However, traditionally, many onSDN love to put the other guy down and spread unsubstantiated rumors. Is it because they are bigots? Is it because they are trying to make themselves look better? It's hard to say.

The simple fact is... if you are willing to put in the work, you can get a good education at any school. You can get a good residency and a great spot as an attending as well. I've had a number of students from many schools rotate through our residency program. There has never been a single one that I don't consider salvagable. The biggest problem that occurs is in attitude. There are quite a few who would never get into my residency due to that. It's fine to be confident, but arrogance will never fly in my book. The thought that a whole school of people is incompetent because of where they go to school is pretty much an arrogant statement, IMHO. This "Oh, I don't know for them all, but every one I met is bad" kind of statement is not acceptable. It's spreading rumor and the authors should be ashamed of themselves for doing it.

blah blah blah.

never said every single one suck. just the overall rep isn't great and those that my former attendings (and i) had interacted with were poor. lack of basic fund of knowledge, poor in procedures (and hell, i don't exactly consider myself to be a whiz kid in either) but they made me look like a superstar apparently. even those students weren't happy with their educational experience during years 3 and 4.

how is the view from that high horse of yours?

Originally Posted by Doctor4Life1769

Received your PM.

Anyways. I did do some rotations alongside folks from that school. They couldn't tell a head from an ass if their lives depended on it. Had a few attendings tell me their impression of DOs was incredibly low from their experience dealing with those students til they had folks from my school rotate with these same attendings. You never see a KYCOM match list on SDN. they're awful from what I understand. they don't do shelves (if i remember correctly), their rotations are awful. I dont know much about the first two years, but their main perks are the freebies they give out.

Has COCA ever stepped in to address this issue?

Originally Posted by poopyhead

Has COCA ever stepped in to address this issue?

ahaAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

Originally Posted by poopyhead

Has COCA ever stepped in to address this issue?

COCA plays a big part in this problem.

Originally Posted by bleeker10

COCA plays a big part in this problem.

How so?