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Hi everyone,
I just feel like telling the truth, Why do you all care about medicine ( right you care about people and you want to help) but the truth is that these guys only care about themselves, once they get their MD/DOs they totally forget about those they once claimed they would care for and are after more prestige, honors, bonuses, and the like. They become arrogant and neglectful, and I have experienced this as a patient, and I honestly want you all to reconsider your aspiration for medicine and be true to yourself..... For real why don't you guys become food servants or nannies or farmers? honestly cause once these premeds get in medical school they totally forget about the patients, one of my friends in med school once told me that the best residency is the one involving the least contact with patients,,,, Seriously? so why did you go to medical school? So please, if you are among those who just want to get in medicine for honors, prestige, please, for the sake of patients, quit, because medicine requires sincere passion and compassion. And what the heck, save yourself from stress, be a teacher, a nanny, a farmer, a food servant..... and be happy, |
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Since your thread is pointless, let me take a moment to devote a post to a great football player who has passed before us today.
Junior Seau was a great football player. He was never arrogant during interviews and always seemed to care and devote 100% to the game. He was a true team player. You will be missed buddy, you will be missed. It is disheartening to think that he may have suffered a neurological disorder. http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T6HJyVHz3zI RIP |
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It's also got to be hell on earth for guys who live for glory to return to the average life. |
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You are coming into contact with the wrong physicians. This was not my experience AT ALL when shadowing. Also if theyre just in it for the money/bonuses/prestige how would your "solution" of being a nanny or a farmer make ANY sense...
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Because doctors have lives in their hands, LIVES. if they are not that passionate about medicine they should turn to another profession that does not involve so many responsibilities and that can be easily done without any passion for it. I named a few but there are many more. Nowadays patients don't even interact much with their doctors, they only rush for prescriptions, they don't care about you, and it seriously hurts me because you can screw up at any other job and get a second chance, but if you screw up in medicine, you can't get these lives back
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This is horrible trolling, the point you're trying to make isn't even a point.
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The education system in US is doing everything it can do, they demand a longer education, majoring in another field, try to make you see what exactly you want to be, extracurriculars, everything, but those kids make a slalom through all those prerequisites and get in a med school still without an MD heart. I need to see good examples a lot. |
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Actually I'm a lot offended. What about engineering? Engineers can work by themselves in the corner and live happy lives contributing to society. Without engineers you wouldn't have bridges, or tunnels. Without engineers you wouldn't have buildings or subways. I really can't believe that you would come on this forum and mention teaching, nannism, farming, and food serving as good happy jobs and leave out engineering. I'm a bit speechless now. Anyway, sorry to digress but let's get back to the topic at hand. Isn't the best residency the one that deals least with patients? Maybe your friend is right. People aren't always appreciative about the hard work and time we all spend after you "patients". Maybe it's best to just stay away from patients. They sue you if you make a mistake, they yell at you, they expect u to be magicians that can cure cancer on the spot. Well let me tell you a thing sweetie, we are not magicians, nor are we perfect but we have good intentions to help people. (I am crying as I type this) We want to help but sometimes we do get fed up and we are human beings (homo sapiens to be exact) and we have personalities and personal lives and we get affected too. Sometimes, patients are the best and worst part of our day. I am deeply offended at your jumping to conclusions that all physicians dont like patients, this isn't true. Some do like patients. Some don't. Some who dont like patients do good work and some who are nice to you do poor work. As a layperson, layman, nonprofessional such as yourself, you have zero clue on who's good and who's on your side or just trying to score a few $$. After reading my lengthy and emotional post, I expect a full written apology to me and all our other members on this forum who try and try to help others and have to deal with ignorance from individuals who do not know what it is like to do 70 hr residencies, having to study day night for step 1. Like the golden book of golden rules says: Without being in my shoes, you dont know where I have walked or going to work to. I cannot type anymore, my head hurts from crying so much.
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Preach on, brother. All SDN people talking about dermatology and wanting good lifestyles disgust me. You all need to quit immediately and become pig farmers, or American History teachers, or do both part-time. We are talking about LIVES and is clear that a life of a filthy animal such as pig can never be as important as a life of a human being. Pig farming also involves good amount of manual labor and outdoor activities.
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I'm pretty sure most of us realize that being a doctor isn't sunshines, rainbows, and having three-ways with starlets in Vegas on Saturday nights. Most of us are genuinely interested in the pursuit of medicine. Where are you getting your information from? |
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there is a very good chance that your experience as a patient does not reflect at all the passions of those that treated you. You are mixing and matching terms and using poor measures to assess the intentions of others.
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But anyway, to play devils advocate, I do some degree acknowledge your point. Unfortunately some things happen to you once you get into medical school and start dealing with real patients. For all of your idealism, some of it slips away to the reality of what medicine actually is. You can strive to help patients 100% of the time, but when a great deal of them reject your help, expect the impossible from you, and even tear you down it does change you. This is reflected in the behavior you see in some physicians I'm sure. I'll not deny it is our job to not get jaded, but as someone else pointed out we are only human beings. Which many of our patients forget. There was an article in an AMA newsletter based on a New York Times column, which actually looked at the transformation medical students go through during 3rd year clerkships, and what schools are attempting to do to combat it. I'm not always that with the NYT, but it had some merit. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...nt/?ref=health |
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. I have already discussed that in all my essays and they have gotten me very far so far. adcoms like to see people that are driven to make the society a better place, people who have the inner drive to stand up and fight for the neglected. Guess what? I am one of them
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![]() Edit: just read your post that you haven't been accepted to med school yet
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To be honest, I havent always bought the "because I care about people" or the "I want to help people" claim. Every instance of gainful employment "helps people". The local mechanic helps people.... "help" is not unique to medicine.... nor is this a requirement for being competent. I will accept that "caring" helps in being effective, but that is only because the current patient population somehow rationalizes ignoring a doctor's advice if they think the doctor is a jerk. I dont get it.... if you want medical advice/treatment go to a doctor. If you want to spurn the advice... it only hurts yourself. I feel I have a desire to help people (who want to be helped) and the ability to help in a specific way (medicine). But if someone in need of help decides they do not like what I have to offer I am not going to lose any sleep over it... |
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**** you figured out the only reason i want to be a doctor is so i can make lots of moneys and get all the women?
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Cute thread
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Accepted - MD Class of 2016 ![]() ---------------------------------------------------------------- He will again have compassion on us, And will subdue our iniquities. You will cast all our sins Into the depths of the sea. - Micah 7:19 Last edited by Bro Dude; 05-02-2012 at 05:59 PM. |
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The longer you work with people, the more you hate them. Don't believe me? Get a summer job as a cashier or a waitress or a customer service rep.
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but people treat physicians differently than their waitresses. Things are often quite a bit different when someones health is on the line. |
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http://www.auschwitz.dk/doctors.htm
So much for compassion, and you really think that you are not capable of such acts? |
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Oh, I agree. Physicians are held to a higher standard and they hold themselves to a higher standard. But the hatred and disgust is still there, I would imagine. "Hell is other people."
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This reminds me very much of a lecture we recently had on schizophrenia... eerily similar to the patient video |
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I had this very rare condition that I don't feel like disclosing on SDN, but my family took me to more than 20 different doctors that could not come up with the right diagnosis and treatment, every time it was something different and I didn't feel like all these doctors really cared about all my pain. At some point I promised myself to get in medicine myself and learn more about my condition, I have been very frustrated as a patient by doctors, and the only one that genuinely cared about my condition and went the extra mile to help unfortunately relocated to England. Every time I met with these doctors they always rushed to prescribe this or that, I was on so many medications and it took pretty much my entire life to finally get to someone who tried his best to get to the root of my condition.
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Now it all makes sense. So I assume as soon as you become a doctor you will join Doctors Without Borders and become the martyr for humanity.
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Also, the term "my pain" bugs me.... over utilized in seekers
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Well played sir, well played.
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. I have already discussed that in all my essays and they have gotten me very far so far. adcoms like to see people that are driven to make the society a better place, people who have the inner drive to stand up and fight for the neglected. Guess what? I am one of them


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