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I came across this and thought it was an interesting read. Curious to see the thoughts of other people.
http://www.thennt.com/screening-mamm...ducing-deaths/ |
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"however an equal number of individuals appear to lose their lives due to mammography"
I think I would take strong exception to this comment. |
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so if we already don't recommend self breast exams and clinical breast exams have no mortality benefit so if we stop doing screening mammograms then cancers are going to be picked up by what? patients presenting with gross abnormalities suggestive of later stage of disease?
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I haven't gone through the primary literature but my concern is this:
If the same number of people are dying in the mammography and control groups but fewer are dying of breast cancer in the mammography group, then I can think of only two possibilities. Either the data is faulty and breast cancer deaths are being classified as something else (which biases the study to supporting screening) or, even worse, the patients are dying as a side-effect of receiving mammography and the follow-up treatment. The former means we're wasting money on a useless intervention and the latter is a far more concerning situation where we are simply stopping patients to irradiate, mutilate, and bill them on their way to the grave. This isn't to argue that mammography is some evil. It's just a test which provides information we may not be capable of properly utilizing. Maybe this guy's wrong but he paints a convincing argument that it's at least worth considering that maybe we got caught up in a parade of pink ribbons and early-detection dogma. The rest of medicine is full of examples where we realized that we lack the predictive tools to make it a good idea to aggressively track down asymptomatic problems... As I said, I haven't read enough of the primary literature to feel capable of making an informed opinion. I though the guy made an interesting argument and wanted to see if there is an informed rebuttal out there. |
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should have been dr. who
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Depends on how dense your knockers are.
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Their endpoints in the review are too close. They're looking at 10-13 year survival studies of people who presumably don't have cancer at the time. Also there's not enough data about the studies to draw other conclusions.
Furthermore, here's a follow-up study which has interesting findings. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC102363/ Last edited by drizzt3117; 05-25-2012 at 08:10 AM. |
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If anything, that paper draws attention to the concerning fact that even the impact on breast-cancer mortality is still under legitimate debate. |
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Not familiar with mammography lit, but there's pretty strong evidence that routine PSA's do more harm than good (at least as it was under the study conditions at the time - not sure if protocol has changed). I think the author is a Kaplan or some such
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed...054145/related
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