Private Neonatology group - link to "how to be a neonatologist thread"

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In order to facilitate the discussion of neonatology as a career and encourage more fellows and attendings to share their knowledge with the group without needing to have all of SDN see what they have to say, we have created a private neonatology group which can be found under "Special groups". Please join so we can see how this will work. You can always drop out. Here is the group FAQ.

Group description:

Purpose: To enhance discussion about neonatology as a career and about careers involving neonatal intensive care among attendings, fellows, residents, medical students and premeds. Comparisons between specialty training in different pediatric fields is also appropriate. Postings within the group are not visible to non-members.

Target membership:

Neonatologists, neonatal fellows, pediatric residents, medical students and premedical students who are contemplating training in neonatology in the US or who are practicing in the US. Other medical specialties such as other pediatric specialists or OB that have an interest in neonatology education may join. However, the primary target is those with a potential interest in becoming US-trained neonatologists or pediatricians doing substantial amounts of neonatal care (moonlighting or hospitalists) as well as current neonatologists. Neonatal nurse practioners, RT, PT, OT, and dietitians may also join in, although these careers are not the primary focus of this group. Non-medical personnel should not join but post in the other SDN forums as appropriate.

Target themes:

Description of programs both in general and specifics including how the 3 years are divided, night call, etc. Discussion of research opportunities in neonatology for trainees. Discussion of family life and career pathways involving neonatology. Discussion of careers as an NNP, etc compared to a neonatologist or hospitalist. Some discussion of specific research topics may be included.

Non-permitted themes of discussion:

Any specific patient care issue that could be traced to an individual patient or circumstance. Details of medical management protocols (for this please go to 99nicu.org). Discussions of ethical issues in neonatology (please use the Topics in Healthcare or Sociopolitical forums of SDN for these).

How to join:

Apply as in the post below. If you are not an SDN member whose identity I otherwise know, please let me know in the submission box for membership your real first name, position, and your current institution. You are encouraged to provide your real first name in your posts, but may maintain on-line anonymity after providing your real first name, position and institution to the moderator.

Moderator:

Moderator is “oldbearprofessor” (OBP), a Professor of Pediatrics and attending neonatologist for over 15 years. I will not share your name and institution with the group.

Other:

This is a professional forum and all discussion must be appropriate for such a setting. If you wouldn't say it on sign-out rounds, don't say it here.

If you want to join the forum then you need to go here to our Special Forums section. You will need to select the neonatology group and then click join now. You then have the join request line. Where you include your real name, position, and your current institution.

As OBP stated, you are encouraged to provide your real name in your posts, but may maintain on-line anonymity after providing your real name, position and institution to the moderator.

Edit: Try this link...

I want to clarify that although most of the discussions are related to neonatal issues and neonatology as a career, those who are residents/fellows in other pedi areas or MS interested in other pedi specialties are welcome to join and contribute. Many related fields (e.g. pedi cards, developmental pedi) share research and career issues with neo and we value your contribution. Even future adolescent docs are welcome.

Originally Posted by lovelyaries

hi everyone,
my name is nneka and I am a 3rd year medical student at LECOM. I am applying for a residency in pediatrics this fall and I am very interested in neonatology. I did a rotation last year in the NICU and I loved it, so right now strongly considering a fellowship in neonatology after residency. Anyone know any good books to purchase or read about the history of neonatology? thanks.

Modern neonatology has a short history, but a lot of great information and references to history can be found here.

http://www.neonatology.org/tour/history.html

http://www.neonatology.org/classics/default.html

By the way, this is a good chance for me to update our group info. We currently have 59 members plus a substantial number of SDN advisors/mods who lurk but haven't bothered to join. Our membership includes a couple of folks who are interested in things like being NNP's, pharmacists, etc, so I'm going to add a bit about that as well. We've been working on adding sections covering areas of research of interest to neonatologists/pedi academics as well as info about matching in neo beginning in 2009.

I don't log on all that often.....mostly on call nights in between sports seasons on the TV, but request to join the group has been submitted

If you really want to remain up-to date on what is happening in neonatology, consider subscribing to NICU-NET.

http://www.neonatology.org/nicu-net/join.html

It is an old-style closed moderated listserv. They will confirm your ID before they allow you to post stuff to the list.

We currently have over 400 members, including other attending pediatricians, several fellows and about to start fellows and a mix of residents, med students and pre-meds.

Our focus is entirely career-guidance, not patient-care related issues, lit review, ethics, etc. Those are best discussed elsewhere. Some threads about dealing with death and other such issues, but focused on how it relates to careers.

We also have a discussion of what to eat when on-call. and Harry Potter

Again, the forum is open to all medical personnel with an interest in neonatology as a career, including NNP, RT's etc involved in the NICU setting. Very welcome also are fellows/attending in other pedi areas or those interested in academic pedi in general.

Thanks for helping to make this community grow and thrive. Eventually I'd like to process the role such communities have in education (e.g. do they enhance career decision making, etc) and am open to ideas about that as well.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=132715

is a thread that contains a long discussion about becoming a neonatologist and the pros and cons thereof.

It is a good start for those who don't want to join the neonatology group (why?).

I have deleted the "sticky" for it in order to simplify the pedi forum and decrease the number of stickies

Originally Posted by LittleKidd

hey..

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/prof...editusergroups

look for neonatology and then select "join group". Then fill in the space and you'll be set to discuss neonatology with us. Remember that SDN isn't really a place for middle school students, but many of us will be glad to answer your questions there. We were middle school students once and some of us have middle school kids.

Speaking of which, if you happen to be one of my kids, just walk over and ask me your questions.

just kidding...

Sir,
I have done my MBBS in India and plan to do my post grad there.I needed career guidance as to how to apply for neonatology fellowship in the us?

Originally Posted by rangarayan

Sir,
I have done my MBBS in India and plan to do my post grad there.I needed career guidance as to how to apply for neonatology fellowship in the us?

You will do this during your second year of pediatric residency. For now, you should be focused entirely on completing the USMLEs if you have not done so and obtaining a pediatric residency in the US. If you have already matched or signed into a US program for residency, there is nothing else you need to do now.

sir,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply...
But I have a small problem,I have to do my post grad training in India itself and plan to get a good neonatology fellowship in the USA.
So my doubt is, do i have to give usmle for applying for fellowship?

Originally Posted by rangarayan

sir,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply...
But I have a small problem,I have to do my post grad training in India itself and plan to get a good neonatology fellowship in the USA.
So my doubt is, do i have to give usmle for applying for fellowship?

Good luck with that plan. There are currently very few programs in the US that will take people who did not complete a US residency as currently it is extraordinarily difficult to do this and ever become board certified in the US.

I have never heard of anyone not taking STEP 1 and both STEP 2s of the USMLEs (or osteopathic equivalent COMLEX) before applying for a fellowship, but don't know the specific rules on this.

okay sir.. i'l look up on this..thank u

Originally Posted by oldbearprofessor

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/prof...editusergroups

look for neonatology and then select "join group". Then fill in the space and you'll be set to discuss neonatology with us. Remember that SDN isn't really a place for middle school students, but many of us will be glad to answer your questions there. We were middle school students once and some of us have middle school kids.

Can premeds still join?

Originally Posted by biophilia

Can premeds still join?

yes

I tried joining, but can't figure out how.

Originally Posted by NICUfello

I tried joining, but can't figure out how.

PM OldBearProfessor, and he'll take care of it.

Originally Posted by Stitch

PM OldBearProfessor, and he'll take care of it.

No I won't, I can't add members directly, they have to go through the system and request membership. How to join groups is described a few posts ago.

Originally Posted by oldbearprofessor

No I won't, I can't add members directly, they have to go through the system and request membership. How to join groups is described a few posts ago.

Oops, sorry! For some reason I thought you were behind it all!

Originally Posted by Stitch

Oops, sorry! For some reason I thought you were behind it all!

I approve members, but I can't add them if they don't go through the system.

Request sent.