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I will be applying in Feb after I get my MCAT scores in. Currently I am siting on a 3.1 cGPA/BCMP GPA, good ECs and a 26 MCAT. Hopefully I will be able to get that MCAT up to around 30 when I retake in Jan.
Do you know how competitive Tufts is for this program? Did you find the program helpful and enjoyable? Did you get into Tufts school of medicine?
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The program has been enjoyable for the most part. It's definitely helpful since you take the exact same classes as the med students in the first block (Med Foundations I - total of 6 courses: Cell Biology, Biochemistry, Genetics, Molecular Biology, Tissue and Organ Biology (Histology) and Immunology). This second part of the semester has been a lot more chill, we only have one class that's the same as the med school and then we're taking a Intro to Clinical Med and Nutrition (a second year course actually!). It's a bit cliche to say this, but it's true: you really find yourself in the program and I'll tell you this, if you're not prepared to work then don't apply. Be prepared to study every single day from after class (like 3) till Midnight. If you don't then you're doing yourself a disservice. The whole point of this program is to show med schools that you can do BETTER than the average med student. If you don't commit the time and effort to study as hard as you can and blow the tests out of the water then you're wasting your time. That being said, if you put in the time, your effort will show (the classes accurately reflect your effort - for the most part - let's not talk about mole bio >_<) As for the students, there isn't any competition at all between us. It definitely helps to form a group of friends to study with and everyone usually helps everyone else out in an effort to beat the med students! We're all working towards the same goal and it's really nice to see everyone around you do well. For comparisons to other programs like this, I think Tufts is one of the best. Along with Georgetown it's definitely in the top 3. I've heard BU is a lot harder and really pushes you toward applying later on. If you're planning to apply the same year then I can comment on that more (I'm currently applying). We have about 20 students applying this year out of the 118 in the class. This program is different from ones like Toledo, Cinci, and EVMS in that it's geared more towards getting you into any med school not just THAT med school. Of course if you do well, you should get an interview here. Supposedly last year's students that did well all got the first interview to tufts and all got in. As for currently applicants of our class, at least 4-5 already have an interview to Tufts (that I know of, I haven't asked the others). Come visit if anything and you can meet the students and see the area. Anyway, if you have any other questions about anything, curriculum, social life, places to live, things to do, application process, the program itself, facilities, etc. just ask away and we'll try to answer! Good luck! |
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I will be applying in late January/early February as well! Looking at both BU and Tufts, as most people tend to do. Crossing fingers early application submission will help our chances compared to those that wait till later in the semester.
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So Jan/Feb is early? I'm freaking out about not being able to get my apps this month.
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How are they about International students? I will be graduating from a top 10 school next May if that makes any difference.
My cGPA is not good at all - 2.8-3 if I do well this and next semester, but of course that is why I am planning on doing a post bacc. Thanks for the advice. |
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A lot of SMPs do not even begin to review applications until January, so anytime in the fall semester would definitely be considered "early." These programs also see a lot of applicants who did not get admitted into medical school this time around, so they do not send in applications until mid-late spring semester.
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If your app is in by end of February you're in really good shape. good luck! |
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You don't HAVE to do anything apart from pay taxes
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I'm remember you now - you are our "15" year old or whatever it is.
Trust me - you need to some maturing before you enter a graduate program; you may be a child genius, but the emphasis on that word is child You do not have to go into a PhD program - if you want medicine, then a better thing would be spending a year doing teach for america, or volunteering somewhere, or just getting a medical job to earn money. If mommy and daddy are being mean to you and forcing you to go to school, then I hate it break it to you but patients aren't nice to you all the time either. Grow some back bone and figure out what YOU want, and what is appropriate for your intended career path |
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If you're on this thread, I assume you and I have the potential to be classmates come August. I suggest you forgo your preconceived notions concerning teenagers and my ability and I'll do my best to forget your disparaging comments concerning my "mommy and daddy". I have little interest in making enemies before my application is submitted. Good luck with any and all programs you choose to apply to! EDIT: Whoops, didn't see you're a med student. Forget that bit about being classmates... and good luck with residency applications!
Last edited by BrandNewDay; 12-05-2011 at 09:02 PM. Reason: Note to self: Always read statuses. And yay for invoking...whatever SDN law I did. |
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BrandNewDay - the fact you think that a PhD is an appropriate option shows how much you still have to learn. You think you know it all - you don't. Until you get to med school, you don't appreciate truly how the process works and why the people here are here.Good luck with whatever it is you do, cos no-one can advise you otherwise.
To everyone else in this thread - sorry for taking it off course for a little bit; I thought it was pertinent to take BrandNewDay with a pinch of salt and to point out his/her approach/view on this process is unique to them Last edited by robflanker; 12-06-2011 at 04:43 AM. |
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I don't believe a PhD is an even slightly appropriate option. Hence why I'm doing my best to avoid it. I would argue that none of the non-medical students don't appreciate the things that you mentioned. I do not claim to do so either. Every applicant is theoretically unique, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I am well aware that my case is unlikely to ever provide guidance for someone in a similar situation. At this point, I find it a little ironic that you're saying that nobody can advise me. I learned of SMPs from SDN and am pursuing them as what is my next best option for my unique circumstances. That doesn't somehow make me hardheaded and stubborn (on this issue). It just means I'm trying to do the best I can as I pursue the career I want. THAT is not unique to me. |
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Please find another outlet to figure out your problems BrandNewDay. This is a forum about the Tufts MBS program, not the BrandNewDay program. Personal messages are an option of this forum for a reason
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I assure you- I had no interest in derailing the thread, which is why I initially responded to questions on my personal situation as concisely as possible so as to discourage further conversation. That failed. One thing I am somewhat curious about- did you pre-study for the SMP? Did you wish you had? And, being that I'm neurotic, what would you recommend to somebody who would pre-study anyways?
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I don't really think you can pre-study. We are given specific books they call syllabi that are written by the professors on the topics they plan to teach. Even with those you would more need the slides. I guess if you really wanted to pre-study you could review some biochem and re-read your undergrad bio book or something, but I recommend you don't waste your time with that
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Also, for brand new day.. i honestly don't know if SMP is the right path for you. It's for people who: A) are borderline in their apps and want to show they can do well in med school/need a stats boost or B) have a lower than desired GPA and are looking to show med schools that they need not worry.. If you're just looking for something to do, I'd honestly do something like teach for america or get a job and make some money to show your maturity. |
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A HUGE factor in getting into med school is maturity and no matter what you say, write or do you will still appear as a 16 year old on paper to these med schools and they would much rather take a 24 year old with the same stats because they simply have more life experiences and to be honest, more maturity. An SMP will NOT help that and you'll still get rejected at age 17 even if you do EXTREMELY well in SMPs. My advice is to enjoy yourself. Go out and live your life and make some memorable experiences. You have plenty of time to work yourself to death, enjoy these younger years while you still have them. And when you're 22, study your butt off for the MCAT, kill it, and I guarantee you'll get into a med school. Your GPA is fine and with more experiences, age and maturity and a better MCAT score, you really don't need an SMP. But that's just my 2 cents. If an SMP is what you want to do, go for it. But I think everyone on this thread is pointing out a major red flag in your app that only time can fix. |
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Well I'll tell you this much, this program is definitely geared towards a medical school acceptance. I only know one guy going dental. He did well in the program and actually got into UCSF dental. But I have a feeling he didn't even need the program to get in. I'm sure some of the courses we take are similar to the dental school courses, but they aren't the exact same. They mirror the med school exactly including the tests even. I just feel like there may be better programs to apply to that focus on dental students. For the amount of money you're going to pay you should make sure the program is more of a dental type program. If anything, shoot an email to the MBS office. I have a feeling they won't be very helpful cause they barely help those of us applying to med school currently. I'm not trying to turn you away or anything, I just don't want you to come here with expectations of getting help to get into dental school. Our orientation and workshops that the program puts on solely talks about med school. I have heard them mention dental school once and I think my classmates would back me up on that. Good luck and let us know if you have any other questions! |
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hey, i'm in the program right now..from what they said at the beginning during orientation, you should aim for at least a 3.5
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Hey everyone! I'm applying to this program among other SMPs. Hopefully all my apps will be done by the time my MCAT scores are released at the end of February (taking MCAT January 28).
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - Molecular and Cellular Biology, and Chemistry cGPA: 3.15 sGPA: 3.10 MCAT: expected 32+ -My issue: awful 1st semester (2.4) steady climb ever since! Never been below a 3.0 since, thank god! ECs: Lots of shadowing, work in research lab (lab assistant), EMT-B, tutoring, hospital volunteer, christian clinic triage volunteer, student advisory committee for a gen-ed course, pretty solid LORs Anyone else with similar stats? This is one of my top programs for sure! I'm thinking that it will be one of my "reach" schools in terms of SMPs that I can get in to... *fingers crossed* |
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Hey everyone,
I'll be applying to this program as well. Just fishing up my application now. A couple of questions for those currently enrolled: How many students are accepted into the program, and do you know what the acceptance rate looks like? I'm applying with: 3.0 GPA from one of the Ivies 31P MCAT (10/10/11) Neuroscience major Nearly flawless past couple of semesters with explanations for earlier (major family issues) Excellent LOR Very involved on campus/strong EC, though no experience with research/shadowing Any thoughts on chances? Thanks, and good luck to everyone else applying! |
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I have very similar stats.
BSc in Physiology, minor economics 3.0 CGPA, 2.9 BCPM, (3.6 in econ, 3.4 in physiology) 32Q (10,10,12) -Reason for pathetic gpa, First semester was an awful 1.53, followed by a 2.7, after which I never went below a 3.0. -Good LOR's, Substantial clinical exposure (volunteered in clinics, scrubbed in to see surgery, etc etc), research in cancer research lab (though my name got chucked off the paper due to the post doc having issues:@). I'd also like to know about my chances? My other question is I already have gained admission into Flinders University in Aus (Deferred it due to personal reasons). Is it worth not going there and trying an SMP? Also does anybody know anything about the statement? Is it like a personal statement telling your story etc (like the ones you write for undergrad) or a very specific one like you write for research programs? |
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Hello all, I'm just looking for some advice and this thread caught my attention. Do you think I will be able to gain acceptance into the program with a 2.9-3.0 UG gpa and a 20 MCAT? (Took the MCAT without studying much at all, while taking Orgo 2 and an upper level bio course. Plan to retake in March, but also plan to apply for this program before then) Any advice appreciated!
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Don't ever go abroad - and if you do, go to one of the Carib ones; they at least have some guaranteed residency seats in the US
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Just a quick answer to a previous question:
The program enrolls about 120 students (not sure how many more are accepted) out of about 500-600 who apply. So it's still a little tough to get in, but nothing like med school, haha and as for everyone asking about their chances, you all seem to be perfect candidates for the program. They are looking for people with GPAs around a 3.0 but with MCATs above a 30. The only person I would be concerned about is medadvicewanted. You need to improve that MCAT score first or no one will look at you. Good luck everyone |
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Has anyone found out whether they have been accepted or not yet?
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I'm not a regular here, but I got my acceptance today (actually came here to see if anyone else did too). GPA ~3.0, MCAT >35, complete about a week ago. Tufts was my first choice so I am definitely going.
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Accepted as well!
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Congrats to both of you! If you have any questions at all, classes, books, professors, living, stuff to do just post on here!
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Did you guys find out from the website, or by calling? I submitted my app a while back but still haven't heard anything yet.
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On another note: I know a lot of people keep asking about the application timeline and I know that I applied in February--but I also know of people that applied in May and got in just fine. So while it's obviously a little more stressful on you to apply later...if you have a good application you still won't have much trouble getting in if you need an extra month to get things together. And you also have to remember since a lot of people are applying to this as just one of their choices, the chances of all the people who get in in February deciding to attend are low because of a lot of reasons (money, diff program choices,decide against med school altogether...etc)...so I wouldn't let the 118 spots to 600 apps thing stress you out too much because the odds are prolly a bit higher than that. If you feel like your application will be better in March or even early April than February, I'd practice patience. Lol of course try not to procastinate lol...but try make sure you're not rushing anything --especially your MCATS. |
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Just got my acceptance as well! I'll be seeing you all next year
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when it asks us to choose a program for study, which one do we choose?
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accepted too! congrats to everyone!
just had a quick question: I recently heard that MBS students don't actually take "live" classes; MBS students watch video-taped lectures instead of attending actual lectures. Is there any truth to this? Thanks! |
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When I first experienced the live-stream I was a little upset to see that Tufts was doing it. But in the end it's not really that big of a deal. It's not like Drexel where every single lecture is video taped and just a recording. Though all lectures are recorded so you can go back and watch them again. I'd say 85% of our classes were live taught and 15% were live streamed. |
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You can always email and ask them if anything. As they say, hear it from the horse's mouth. |
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Yes they do. You have the choice between going back to your undergrad or having Tufts do it. I know a lot of people who chose to go back to their undergrads cuz they're more comfortable with their pre-health committees there, but it's certainly not required because the program director will write one for anyone who needs it.
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