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So I am have been reading previous posts on this forum and thought maybe I should get some advice on my situation. So I have been accepted in to 3 clinical ph.D programs (UCLA - funding with RA stipend, Syracuse - semi funing with RA stipend, Teachers College - funding). I was really surprised to get accepted because my credentials in undergrad are not as competitive as my friends who applied to the same programs and had better grades than I did. My GRE score was 1445 so I guess that made up for the GPA, anyways back to the topic lol ![]() I have been having doubts about going into being a clinical psychology because I have been reading many different threads about the money, the long hours, the job market, etc. I am interested in being a clinician, but I want to be able to make money. I understand that if I really love this career than money shouldn't matter, but it is still stuck in my head. I hope to open my own practice (after a few years of experience) and maybe start buildering more income that way, but I still have some reservations about it. I applied and got accepted into other programs that are not clinical psychology (Biotech ph.D, Biomedical ph.D, Theatre and Performance Studies ph.D; I am a bio major with experience in Theatre Directing at my Uni), but I am still alittle sceptical about going into any of theses programs. I have alot of interests and skills so I just want to go into a career where I am happy and that can provide financial stability. I am sorry if sound shallow or spoiled, thats not how I want to be perceive. I just really want to step in the right directions and I have been going back n forth about how I want to spend my life. If any of you can give me any suggestions, insights, advice, opinions, etc, that would great. I just want to see what you guys think and maybe I will have a clear mind about it. Thank you for reading this really long post. I hope you all have gotten offers to the programs that you wanted
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Nothing personal, but I just think it's really too bad that this field is so competitive that stats seem to matter more than dedication to the field itself. I'm just thinking about all of the people who have worked hard in the field for years just to get into a clinical psychology PhD program and because of one test (the GRE) were simply not competitive for that one reason, and who are unable to contribute their passion to the field. I think this is why people are so disillusioned by clinical psychology.
If you don't want to do this, do something else and give someone else a chance. That's my advice. |
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I think you are asking complete strangers for advice that only people who know you can give. Go ask your friends and family. Think this over for yourself. I doubt anyone on this thread is willing to convince you to either go the clinical psych route or not. We don't know you and few of us have the energy to advise you based on a single, rather uninformative post. What I can say is that it seems like you have many wonderful options so enjoy your good fortune and best of luck with your career!
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Sorry you feel the way you do |
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Also to the OP- sounds like you could use some career counseling. Try looking into your university counseling center. You're not the only student who has gone through this. But the individual details of your life need to hashed out in a session. A message board might not be the best place to get the answers you need. |
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The thing is, I have already talked to my friends and family and they havent given anything that could help either. I am not asking anyone to tell me what to do. I just want someone to give me some insights on what they did, clarity that I am not alone in the matter, different experiences that a friend, family memeber, or ex-lover did to pursue there career, etc. I just thought since people are asking for advice on this forum (and its seems that some people give really good advice), I might as well do the same and see other peoples perspective. I guess this wasn't an appropriate question to ask on this forum. Thanks for the help though. |
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You could also look at the " would you do it again" thread. I would post a direct link but my mobile device skills are lacking.
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Go to ucla. Great program. Should have a good financial outcome. Lots of great networking opportunities and if nothing else it will be interesting. Congrats
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You claim to have gotten into a very wide range of PhD programs - it seems relatively difficult to me to have the prerequisite skills/research to get into Psychology, Biotech, Biomedical (Engineering) and Theater PhD programs. UCLA is one of the top programs in the country and judging by this post you don't appear to have the writing skills of even an undergrad and yet you claim an acceptance that was validated by a GRE score that's not possible to obtain? I call BS on this entire post. |
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You claim to have gotten into a very wide range of PhD programs - it seems relatively difficult to me to have the prerequisite skills/research to get into Psychology, Biotech, Biomedical (Engineering?) and Theater PhD programs. UCLA is one of the top programs in the country and judging by this post you don't appear to have the writing skills of even an undergrad and yet you claim an acceptance despite other serious and self admitted deficiencies that were mediated by a GRE score that's not possible to obtain. Really? Further, for someone who has gotten into so many PhD/P.hD. programs, you sure seem to be behind on the proper use of academic acronyms (what, exactly, is a ph.D?) I call BS on this entire post. Last edited by sacredrage; 03-31-2012 at 07:21 PM. |
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Wait.... you want to be clinician, you aren't even sure you want to be a psychologist, and you got into *UCLA*, one of the most research-oriented programs in the country? Something doesn't add up here,,,
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GRE range is 400 to 1600 with increments of 10. My guess is that a 1400 score would be close to the 80%ile for psychology students test takers. My sister was a high school math teacher for twenty years and she scored a perfect score on the quantitative seciton and she did very well on the verbal section as well. She received scholarship offers all over the country for PhD programs but she just wanted to attend a MS program in computer education to help with her math classes in the 80's when everyone started using PC's in school programs.
If he/she actually has a score this high, he/she probably could get into any program that they applied to unless their GPA is a 2.50 or lower. Actually, this happens in college where very gifted students have no interest in classes and barely get by with passing grades. They have an analytical writng section that is scored 1-6 points so this is where the increment of 5 points may come from: The range of scores for the Verbal Reasoning and Quantitative Reasoning measures of the GRE General Test is 200 to 800, in 10-point increments. The range of scores for the Analytical Writing measure is 0 to 6, in half-point increments. If you haven’t answered at least one question within a measure, an NS (no score) is reported for that measure. Last edited by 4410; 03-31-2012 at 07:36 PM. |
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You don't really understand how clinical psychology PhD admissions work at all, do you? A GRE score (and/or GPA) alone won't get anyone in. |
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If you look at the person's post history, you will see that he/she also asked about MD/DO programs in a recent post. Just my added information.
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Further, we are talking about PhD programs here - everyone at the top programs has a GRE in the 1360 - 1600 range. It's par for the course. Without serious and accomplished research relative to your POI (or one heckuva inside connection) you're not going to get admitted on a solid GRE score alone. Not by a long shot. NOT TO MENTION this poster didn't even offer an accurate GRE score to begin with. Anyone who got a score that high and chose to brag about it most certainly would not misstate their score and I highly doubt that they accidentally hit the 5 key that's allllllll the way over there away from the 0 on the keyboard. Many of the writing errors madeby this poster are common amongst non-native english speakers - but not common amongst non-native english speakers admitted to non-quant dominated PhD programs. Last edited by sacredrage; 03-31-2012 at 08:27 PM. |
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This is incredibly sad
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I think The other posters point about GRE was that a GRE score does not ever end in a 5 based on the old scoring system although it can now with the new version but those scores are reported in the 100s not the thousands. The OP's story does not make sense.
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If you want an offer to UCLA it's on you to get the grades, GRE score, and do the research/posters/publications that warrant such an acceptance. Your post reeks of jealousy and desperation. You're better than that. Besides, it seems to me that your problem isn't with the OP but rather with UCLA's ability to discern what you consider to be an appropriate admit. My problem is that the OP appears to be utterly and completely full of crap. Last edited by sacredrage; 04-01-2012 at 04:56 PM. |
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Nicki Minaj sums it up: http://imgur.com/8I21m
Seriously though, GRE scores do only come in increments of 10. Learn to troll, OP! |
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I guess what I am saying is graduate school selection is a imprecise process. Similar to this student where there is some hesitation on what direction to pursue, outstanding students have been selected to top schools and lost interest their first semester in working on a doctoral degree. I've also known individuals who have lower scores on the GRE and GPA and become the top student in their graduate school program because of motivation and effort with help from faculty mentorship. Last edited by 4410; 04-01-2012 at 06:42 AM. |
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For those that dont believe my post, I could give a flying f****!! I didnt want to brag or anything of the sort. I am just a young adult trying to find his way in the real world.
I wanted to be nice, but I guess it wont work on this type of forum. I am freakin SMART!!!!! I have accomplished alot in my college career and some of you probably didnt accomplish the same amount that I have. I am not going to go into detail about it because then this will be a long post. Yes, I should have focused more on my grades, but it doesn't really matter at this point because I got accepted into these programs. What matters is what I am going to do theses skills that I have accomulated while achieving these accomplishments English is not my first language so maybe it was kinda hard for peole to understand what I am asking or saying or doubt my grammar capabilities. For that, I am sorry. ![]() So can I PLEASE have USEFUL comments on this thread. I thought posting on this forum would be a good idea. I guess I was wrong. Dont comment if you dont have anything useful to say and save me the time I am I am wasting on this thread. ![]() For those of you that have said something useful to my post, I want to thank you full-heartedly.
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Most of the complaining about things like internship match and whatnot aren't going to apply to you. While the bioengineering stuff is interesting and certainly useful (I've worked with lots of these guys), I'd rather be in the psych program because it gives you base to ask useful questions AND you can still pick up a lot of the bioengineering stuff. One of my former mentors is a professor in both psychology and bioengineering.
Also, lots of folks combine arts with neuroscience. Bruce Miller, at UCLA, studies creativity and neuroscience and many people in the UCLA programs have an arts background. Now, you could choose to go a little different route. If you are able to get into these types of programs, you can easily get into medical school. Have you considered an md/phd program? There may be a financial advantage depending on what you specialize in, though perhaps not. I think medical school adds some monotony and I'd find it very boring. It also adds some different kinds of pressures later on that also I would find boring. But, the general bio/medical info can be useful and it opens some opportunities that the PhD does not. |
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4410: Law school admissions work quite differently from clinical psych admissions. In law school, it's all about the numbers. In clinical psych doctoral programs, they may get you an interview but they won't get you admitted by themselves.
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As one poster implied previously, you may be able to gain acceptance into medical school. Another factor is that many psychology doctoral programs are now in University Health Science Centers where you may pursue Health Psychology or Biological Psychology with focus on Behavioral Neuroscience and still work as a Licensed Psychologists when they graduate. Obviously you are still young and you have many options to look into at this point in your life. Last edited by 4410; 04-01-2012 at 07:57 AM. |
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I feel pretty confident the old-scale GRE's are solely in 10 point increments. You keep yelling at us to learn more about the GRE, but how about you provide some documentation that says the old-scale GRE is in 5 point increments?
It's neither here nor there to me if you're lying, but the least you could do is be civil. |
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GRE® General Test (tests taken prior to August 1, 2011) Measure Scores Reported* Verbal Reasoning 200 – 800, in 10-point increments Quantitative Reasoning 200 – 800, in 10-point increments Analytical Writing 0 – 6, in half-point increments GRE® revised General Test (tests taken on or after August 1, 2011) Measure Scores Reported Verbal Reasoning 130 – 170, in 1 point increments Quantitative Reasoning 130 – 170, in 1 point increments Analytical Writing 0 – 6, in half point increments From: http://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/scores |
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These fields require hefty amounts of smarts, maturity and interpersonal skills. Doesn't look like you have all three going for you yet. |
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I think The other posters point about GRE was that a GRE score does not ever end in a 5 based on the old scoring system although it can now with the new version but those scores are reported in the 100s not the thousands. The OP's story does not make sense.








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