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Let's not also forget the vast majority of people who take this test and do not post on here. I'd
even venture to say that there are some readers who don't get the score they want and won't post. Those who get respectable scores will be more than happy to share so we get a very skewed sample. |
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Hey guys,
Took the beast yesterday. Not gonna say much since I would just be repeating what others have said already. The test is fair... 10% you prolly haven't seen since those long boring days in class, but if you get lucky with something you remember, they are answerable. For me it seemed like Anatomy/Neuro came from here... 5% you may have never seen or heard about. 60% directly from FA/Uworld - might either be a simple regurgitant fact from FA or a concept you've seen tested in UW 10-15% questions you've never seen before about topics you know. These are the questions you need to do well on in order to score high in this test, IMO. Usually physio, pathophy, path I had lots of Anatomy/Neuro + Behaviour...was not happy about it but what can you do. I was scoring consistently around 235 on practice tests so hope to get at least 235 or above..hopefully they underestimated :P One thing's for sure: I am so excited to finally get this test behind me and start third year ![]() Thx to you guys who post on here and respond to PM's |
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Same here. I plan to report my score/experience regardless because these threads have been invaluable in planning my board prep this year.
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I'm going to edit this post: Now obviously the anatomy that comes up on the exam could be anything, but regardless, Elektroshok, I'm curious as to if you could share what you remember from the anatomy on your exam? Thanks so much, Last edited by Phloston; 04-05-2012 at 04:12 AM. |
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Had like seriously 4 or 5 on the PED/TIP mneumonic for the lower extremity (which was nice) Had 3-4 on the brachial plexus, one of which had a drawing sort of like NBME 3 I believe where you had to define where the lesion was. Those were basically the easier ones I remember getting, the harder ones I don't remember specifically but I do remember some CTs/Xrays and identifying structures and what not or the questions started off the same as the easier ones but the last sentence (or answer choices) were just weird. I had an anatomy question about like the second best external rotator of the hip and none of the muscles I would have guessed were listed so I literally guessed and moved on. But kind of like someone was saying - There are going to be some you just dont know and no matter how much more I studied or reviewed I honestly think I wouldn't have gotten those extra points. I think a lot of the base score you will get comes from first two years and the rest is icing on the cake. GOod luck |
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Everyone usually get their score in 3-4 weeks?? The thing said may take up to 8, can't wait that long!!
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That being said, if anyone else on here is reading this who can recall anatomy from the exam, could you please share what you had? Thanks! |
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Lower limb arteries
Lower limb veins Upper limb muscle action Basic heart anatomy Lower limb innervation typical psoas major question Most if not all had accompanying CT/Xray |
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Can those who've taken the test chime in on High Yield Neuroanatomy? I'm wondering if I should use this book. I've heard others mention that it's too detailed for Step 1 and that just using FA may be alright.
As an alternative, I saw the First Aid Organ Systems book (link) has a Neurology section (which expands on the pertinent topics in First Aid). I ask because I feel like I didn't learn neuroanatomy very well in my course. Thanks. |
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I think its overkill. FA was sufficient. But, then again, that was my test, I had very very little neuroanatomy on it. |
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To piggyback that same question. Any ideas on "Rapid Review Biochem"? I purchased this book and found it pretty involved compared to FA also. I'm just trying to figure out what is overkill and what isn't. The sources I'm planning to use are: FA, BRS Physio, RR Path (that's pretty much it)... good idea or bad idea? |
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If you really want to use "goljan" then perhaps audio/transcript might be better. So FA, BRS, Pathoma + goljan audio/transcript. |
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Its sounds kind of weird to say something that takes one full day to read is overkill. I can definitely see how RR Biochem or Path could be considered such, cause those books take at least a week to get through. But literally, one day you can read High yield neuro.
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On another note: I've been doing a block of UWorld everyday. I've noticed my averages are steadily rising but I'm afraid I'm giving myself a false sense of security. I find I answer questions that I'm not 100% on when I answer (although I've narrowed to 2 choices mostly sometimes 3 choices) and I end up getting those right. I'm usually reasoning my way through things rather than straight up recall and I'm not sure if this is others' experience as well? I'm worried that I'm just guessing right on a lot of stuff and that on test day I'm going to get hammered by getting a bunch of questions I can't reason through because I don't have the knowledge. Any advice or comments appreciated! Thanks
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What are people's thoughts on BRS anatomy clinical boxes? I too am somewhat weak on anatomy as it's been over 1.5 years since I took it. It might be my weakest subject, especially given the fact there is no consensus text people turn to that covers most anatomy succinctly. Also, comments on HY Neuroanatomy, Moores blue boxes, and Kaplan anatomy?
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TIP = Tibial Inverts and Plantarflexes ... if injured -> can't stand on TIPtoes As for your second question... I'm worried about that too. Even after taking a few of the NBME's, I feel like I'm doing better than I should be doing, and when it comes actual test time, that I will miss most of the 50/50 ones. It's probably a normal feeling. |
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I had a question for whoever took the exam about the heart murmurs- for the "digital stethoscope," are you allowed to move it any where on the chest (like to the axilla or along the sternum)? Or are there preset locations where you click to hear the sounds (like the kaplan high yield lectures where you can only click on one of the "APT M" locations) Thanks!
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what does everyone think of the goljan audio and goljan rapid review text? Is it worth it or does FA and uworld pretty much cover everythng?
My plan right now is just doing first aid and uworld, what do u guys think? Also, has anyone been doing the kaplan high yield vids? I have those, but haven't really been using them, are they good? |
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Goljan RR = meh IMO. The pictures are great, and I would definitely look at those alongside the audio, but the text itself is overly detailed and is just a wall of facts to memorize (many of which will be very low yield) |
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1. Together, Goljan audio/RR are considered to be the gold standard in pathology prep. The problem is that RR is quite extensive and time-consuming. If you don't have time for RR, Pathoma is a good alternative. 2. FA + UW is the gold standard for general comprehensive prep. Of course it doesn't "cover everything", but most people say that it'll cover about 85-90% of the material in some level of detail. Of course, just because your desired information is in a particular text doesn't mean that you'll retain it. I don't remember every little reaction intermediate in FA biochem. That's why the secondary resources are good for highlighting the parts that matter most. |
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Thanks for the help.
I'm assuming that no one has any experience with the new kaplan high yield program?? What about practice exams, I'll probably have time to do 4 (5 max) practice exams, what of the NBME's are considered the best? Are the uworld practice tests better than the NBME? Or should I do the NBMEs and if i get a chance do the uworld ones? |
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Last year, when I was more than a year out, I had listened to about half of the 36 Goljan audios. I thought they were fantastic. However, I realize now that that's because I was seeing the material for the first time. Goljan really helps solidify the concepts if you are learning them for the first time (or have learned them before but don't feel very comfortable with them). I've already done two passes on FA and am ~2/3 through USMLE Rx at the moment, and I personally have decided that I'm not going to listen to the Goljan audios again, nor the remaining ones that I haven't already listened to, because there are better ways to utilize time once the concepts are already down. Do more questions and FA reading. You are absolutely correct by thinking to do that. Only use Goljan if A) you are >6 months out, or B) you are 3-6 months out but your path is only average and you want it better. If you are <3 months, just do questions and FA, no questions asked. If you are spending time in the final three months watching the daisies and listening to audio files, you're not using your time well. The final three months need to be FA and questions. The exception is if you are a heavy commuter and need to burn time on the road anyway. Then Goljan is fine regardless. I'm just reiterating the fact that he should not be a major study contribution as the exam nears. I know there are people who swear by Goljan. I'm sure some people would actually get angry that I don't unequivocally support his audios (as though I'm saying Gandhi were a bad guy or something). But once again, to each his or her own. Path is actually my strongest component in QBank right now (along with micro and neuroanatomy), and I attribute that to having memorized BRS Pathlogy and having done the University of Utah Webpath questions (I also read Robbins during second-year, but I don't specifically feel that helped me with USMLE-style questions, believe it or not; Robbins has mostly helped with images). I also own Goljan RR. I feel it is way overkill if you are within the 6-month mark, but I can tell it's a good book if you're starting off second-year. I feel you should really check out the University of Utah Webpath questions (http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/webpath.html). I feel they are a much stronger investment than either Goljan or RR if you do need to spend more time on path. I hope that helps, ~Phloston |
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How many multimedia questions did people have on the exam? Was it just heart and lung sounds? Thanks
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Pathoma, on the other hand, is still quite high-yield, probably because he's more to-the-point. He just says "here's a high-yield point" and makes the point instead of spending a lot of time explaining something that you should already know by now. And if you don't already know it, you can look it up on your own. |
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Question for recent test-takers:
Going through the Kaplan Qbank, I often notice a question where the answer choices are something like: a. Positive-sense single-stranded RNA naked icosahedral virus b. Positive-sense single-stranded RNA helical enveloped virus c/d/e (three other similar answer choices). My question is - do those sorts of questions actually show up on the real exam? Or are they just examples of Kaplan Qbank's notorious nitpickiness? |
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Well, I realize that they're there because they've been on tests in the past, but I just want to know how many people actually saw them on their tests. The USMLE insists that they're trying to make Step I questions more and more clinical, and facts might make it into FA/Kaplan/UW just because they've showed up on somebody's test in the past. I'm sure the question is still in their bank, but if there's a 25% chance that I'll see it, then I probably won't invest too much time making sure that I can tell the difference between a calicivirus and a picornavirus...
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derp derp
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If you think you're sharing "too much" information from the exam, I think it's best not to.
I know everyone wants to get every possible question right, but to do that at any expense would be wrong. |
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What I don't get is why question banks and review courses can get away with ripping STEP question concepts from students who have taken the test without consequence (and charge money for it!) but a student on his own talking about it without the expectation of compensation is wrong.
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SDN is officially the website where the Floyd Mayweathers of the USMLE step1 strut their stuff.
It's a jungle on here, and if you're not a lion then you're a nobody. |
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I've found the Sanjiv Microcards to be phenomenal for learning the algorithms, and of any resource I've used for Step1 so far, they are unequivocally the best study tool I've come across. Memorizing the lists from FA for micro isn't good enough. Get the Sanjiv Microcards and memorize the tree-algorithms. I promise it will make micro your best subject if it isn't already. For example, I'm not even looking at the cards and I can tell you that choice A refers to Picornaviridae (enterovirus [coxsackie, polio, echovirus, HepA] and rhinovirus) and Caliciviridae (HepE and Norwalk), and that B refers to Coronaviridae (coronavirus). |
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It just seems odd. When radiology got busted for having recall question banks for their boards that was wrong and condemned by the authorities/media, but things like UWorld or Kaplan are endorsed by medical schools around the country. Last edited by ijn; 04-08-2012 at 09:05 AM. |
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I would obviously recommend going through all of the Sanjiv Microcards, but the bare minimum is the algorithm cards; these precede the vignettes. And yes, buy them immediately.
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Those Microcards are seriously gold, I've never been a flashcard person but I love that set. Blows every other Step 1 commercial flashcard set out of the water.
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How much time did you guys have to invest in the Microcards? I'm not sure if I have enough time to start something new now...
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I've been flipping through them at the end of the day, nothing too intense. I'll probably go through them once or twice fully in the last few weeks to refresh myself. It's worthwhile even if you don't put tons of hours into them.
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