Can a DO become a surgeon?

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How hard is it? If you apply for residency will they give MDs first choice over DOs? Will you receive appropriate training in DO school?

No, article 32 section E states, " AOA education ( Medical school +residencies) are primarily tenured towards serving areas in which are deficient in primary care. DO education should seek to produce Diplomats of Osteopathy that will act primarily as Family Medical doctors and manipulators of bones, surgical skills shall be taught but will be only a slight on the curriculum, which will focus almost entirely on primary care and family and longitudinal medicine."
Pretty much speaking you have 0 chance of becoming a surgeon from a DO school, the AOA actually has 0 surgery positions and looks very badly upon surgery as a whole. It is consider invasive and unnecessary procedures that can in almost all situations be subsituted for OMM/OMT.
































Yes, you can become a surgeon and there are plenty of DO and MD residencies that will accept you.

Haha, sorry. I don't know very much about DOs at all. So is it a religious belief or something?

Originally Posted by nysegop

Haha, sorry. I don't know very much about DOs at all. So is it a religious belief or something?

Die in fire.

Originally Posted by serenade

Die in fire.

Busted out laughing in the middle of class...

Originally Posted by nysegop

Haha, sorry. I don't know very much about DOs at all. So is it a religious belief or something?

More like wizardry, with a dab of 18th century alchemy.

Here the info that you need (I was able to wrangle it up from google) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopa..._United_States

In some cases though, DOs have gone on to become the highest level of pokemon master, higher than MDs... don't let anyone tell you it can't be done!

Originally Posted by dntke1518

More like wizardry, with a dab of 18th century alchemy.

Here the info that you need (I was able to wrangle it up from google) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopa..._United_States

In some cases though, DOs have gone on to become the highest level of pokemon master, higher than MDs... don't let anyone tell you it can't be done!

Remember how Jesus could cure leprosy and let the lame walk again just by placing his hands on their heads?

OMM, nuff said.

If this turns into another OMM vs. MD vs. DO vs. OMM vs. Small Children thread I will blow up the interwebz.

Originally Posted by scarshapedstar

Remember how Jesus could cure leprosy and let the lame walk again just by placing his hands on their heads?

OMM, nuff said.

You guys are going to get me kicked out of class!!



And, yes. I will join you in your destruction if this thread takes a downward dive.

Originally Posted by serenade

Die in fire.

OMG I just busted up in the middle of urgent care clinic. Needed a good laugh after all the stupid people I've seen today.

1) I can't fix stupid
2) There is no pill for obesity.

This kid is great. Probably a high schooler who has no idea what the medical path consists of. I mean go look at his threads. Stop posting and go do some research. My god you are special /rant

Jesus Christ. I really hope you can help us fix the stupidity of so many ignorant and arrogant people !! Amen.

You can't fix stupid

Obvious troll is obvious.

[QUOTE=serenade;12408650]No, article 32 section E states, " AOA education ( Medical school +residencies) are primarily tenured towards serving areas in which are deficient in primary care. DO education should seek to produce Diplomats of Osteopathy that will act primarily as Family Medical doctors and manipulators of bones, surgical skills shall be taught but will be only a slight on the curriculum, which will focus almost entirely on primary care and family and longitudinal medicine."
Pretty much speaking you have 0 chance of becoming a surgeon from a DO school, the AOA actually has 0 surgery positions and looks very badly upon surgery as a whole. It is consider invasive and unnecessary procedures that can in almost all situations be subsituted for OMM/OMT. QUOTE]

You shouldn’t give so much false hope about career possibilities for DOs. While DOs are indeed forced into OMM laden family practices, you failed the OP by neglecting to mention that only a select few are actually deemed qualified to practice family medicine, while the rest 90% of DOs will almost certainly end up working in the janitorial arts with the elite pursuing fellowships in sanitary engineering.

Originally Posted by nysegop

Haha, sorry. I don't know very much about DOs at all. So is it a religious belief or something?

Originally Posted by serenade

Die in fire.

Originally Posted by serenade

Die in fire.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen!

God I hope they don't let DO's become surgeons, the only reason why I am going this route is to avoid blood......

Originally Posted by RickTaylor

I shadowed a very successful general surgeon (is that redundant?) who is a DO. Even during the short period of time I was there a prospective patient flat-out told him she was going to find an MD instead. He took it in stride.

That's just like I had a 98 year old man who refused to be transferred to me because I am a female doctor (I took over a practice from a retired male doctor) and he didn't believe that women should be doctors. To each his own. It's the same being DO, there are those who just personally don't want to be seen by you for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by nysegop

How hard is it? If you apply for residency will they give MDs first choice over DOs? Will you receive appropriate training in DO school?

I'm betting... that this guy is just now realizing he doesn't have a high enough MCAT or GPA to apply to MD schools, so he's rushing to find out everything he can about DO schools because he "really wants to be a surgeon" (because he thinks he can make lots of money)

OP... you'll get all the answers you want MUCH faster if you just do a search. You're never going to get direct answers from us, since all your questions have been beaten to death in other threads. Top right: Search.

Originally Posted by Whosis

God I hope they don't let DO's become surgeons, the only reason why I am going this route is to avoid blood......

Haha, I guess in your mind, only surgeons touch blood ?? Terribly wrong.

Yes, more than 50% of D.O.s pursue the primary care. And the rest become specialists including surgeons. And FYI, even family physicians are required to be able to perform many routine procedures involving blood (e.g. the most common one: clean, sterilize, stitch wounds). Many family physicians (Yes, D.O. family physicians) also deliver babies and deal with emergency situations, especially in under-served areas.

Assuming you have the maturity required by health professions (e.g. research the facts before openly making a claim), if you feel uncomfortable with blood, you will not survive the 3rd, 4th year clinical rotations (not mention the at least 3 years of residency training). and I seriously doubt you can never be a qualified physician.

Originally Posted by SkyRider

Haha, I guess in your mind, only surgeons touch blood ?? Terribly wrong.

Yes, more than 50% of D.O.s pursue the primary care. And the rest become specialists including surgeons. And FYI, even family physicians are required to be able to perform many routine procedures involving blood (e.g. the most common one: clean, sterilize, stitch wounds). Many family physicians (Yes, D.O. family physicians) also deliver babies and deal with emergency situations, especially in under-served areas.

Assuming you have the maturity required by health professions (e.g. research the facts before openly making a claim), if you feel uncomfortable with blood, you will not survive the 3rd, 4th year clinical rotations (not mention the at least 3 years of residency training). and I seriously doubt you can never be a qualified physician.

:whisper: I think he was kidding...

Originally Posted by Iliketoytles

I'm betting... that this guy is just now realizing he doesn't have a high enough MCAT or GPA to apply to MD schools, so he's rushing to find out everything he can about DO schools because he "really wants to be a surgeon" (because he thinks he can make lots of money)

OP... you'll get all the answers you want MUCH faster if you just do a search. You're never going to get direct answers from us, since all your questions have been beaten to death in other threads. Top right: Search.

I think that guy in the back seat has either a pacifier or a ring pop

Originally Posted by sector9

I think that guy in the back seat has either a pacifier or a ring pop

I hope its a ring pop, those are pretty tasty

Originally Posted by dntke1518

I hope its a ring pop, those are pretty tasty

Ring-pop bases are usually blue.

For those of you who are actually trying to help me learn: Thanks, I appreciate it.

They are trying to teach you to use the search function. There are stickies at the top of this page that cover this. This topic has been beaten to death

Originally Posted by nysegop

For those of you who are actually trying to help me learn: Thanks, I appreciate it.

Oh you want to learn? learn something called google

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Originally Posted by emtthink

They are trying to teach you to use the search function. There are stickies at the top of this page that cover this. This topic has been beaten to death

Can they become anesthesiologists, or radiologists? Which sticky can I find out what a DO can become?

Originally Posted by nysegop

Can they become anesthesiologists, or radiologists? Which sticky can I find out what a DO can become?

The short answer to your question is YES. The long answer to your question, do a search and you will find yourself very, very surprised at the "inferior DO" (per some posters and pre-meds, please note not real physicians or higher level medical students).

The sarcastic answer is nahhh not at all, DOs use Jedi Master skills so don't require anesthesia for procedures, radiology to see fractures.....
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Originally Posted by nysegop

Can they become anesthesiologists, or radiologists? Which sticky can I find out what a DO can become?

In short, D.O.s can become specialists in any specialty in medicine.
Here is a link of the AOA residency training opportunities (for D.O.s only, MDs are barred from it): http://opportunities.osteopathic.org/search/search.cfm

Also, if desired, D.O.s also have the option to match in ACGME residencies (MD residencies). However, for some very competitive specialties such as neurosurgery and dermatology, ACGME usually directors prefer their own graduate MDs to DOs.

Hopefully it helps.

Originally Posted by nysegop

Can they become anesthesiologists, or radiologists? Which sticky can I find out what a DO can become?

Don't apply DO.

Originally Posted by serenade

Don't apply DO.

This

And ring pops can have a variety of bases!

Originally Posted by dntke1518

This

And ring pops can have a variety of bases!

Yeah, sure ring pops apply for white base residency like the pacifer in that guy's mouth mentioned a few posts above. But do you normally see them matched with the white base? The short answer is no.

Matching is a competitive process, and I'm afraid ring pops are usually destined to be matched with the generic blue base, to be sold in stores in undesired parts of the US. The white base program directors normally reserve the spots for pacifiers

Duh

Originally Posted by SkyRider

In short, D.O.s can become specialists in any specialty in medicine.
Here is a link of the AOA residency training opportunities (for D.O.s only, MDs are barred from it): http://opportunities.osteopathic.org/search/search.cfm

Also, if desired, D.O.s also have the option to match in ACGME residencies (MD residencies). However, for some very competitive specialties such as neurosurgery and dermatology, ACGME usually directors prefer their own graduate MDs to DOs.

Hopefully it helps.

I looked on the website and they did have anesthesiology

Originally Posted by lacrosse87

Yeah, sure ring pops apply for white base residency like the pacifer in that guy's mouth mentioned a few posts above. But do you normally see them matched with the white base? The short answer is no.

Matching is a competitive process, and I'm afraid ring pops are usually destined to be matched with the generic blue base, to be sold in stores in undesired parts of the US. The white base program directors normally reserve the spots for pacifiers

Duh

I have heard of white base program directors at John Yale Hopkins that have taken ring pops.

What do the ring pops represent? And what is a white base?

Originally Posted by nysegop

What do the ring pops represent? And what is a white base?

Originally Posted by DrMaximus

Originally Posted by nysegop

What do the ring pops represent? And what is a white base?

cocaine.

Originally Posted by dntke1518

This

And ring pops can have a variety of bases!

Ohh man... those look so good.

Anyone remember these? It's how I got my daily source of fruit throughout elementary school.

Originally Posted by Iliketoytles

Ohh man... those look so good.

Anyone remember these? It's how I got my daily source of fruit throughout elementary school.

Dude, this is still how I get my fruit.

remember those? you youngin. Anyone remember when dunkaroos were popular? Or anyone out there remember nintendo cereal? that's right.

Originally Posted by nysegop

Can they become anesthesiologists, or radiologists? Which sticky can I find out what a DO can become?

No. That right is specific to those who apply Caribbean. You are going to go with that route.

Originally Posted by nysegop

For those of you who are actually trying to help me learn: Thanks, I appreciate it.

This isn't a class... Do a lil research before you come here

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

remember those? you youngin. Anyone remember when dunkaroos were popular? Or anyone out there remember nintendo cereal? that's right.

Mhmmmm had an n64 tournament this weekend while eating dunkaroos

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

remember those? you youngin. Anyone remember when dunkaroos were popular? Or anyone out there remember nintendo cereal? that's right.

I remember the dumba$s dunkaroo commercial with some dude talking in a cheesy Aussie accent. Nintendo cereal... that $#!+ looked plain nasty. Mom would never buy them for me... I was lucky to get my hands on some Count Chocula!

do you remember playing Pac Man on the 2600? now that's taking it back!

Originally Posted by tenndoc

Mhmmmm had an n64 tournament this weekend while eating dunkaroos

Dude. What were you playing? I havent n64'd since undergrad. Super smash bros is where its at. And goldeneye

Originally Posted by lacrosse87

Dude. What were you playing? I havent n64'd since undergrad. Super smash bros is where its at. And goldeneye

Star fox multi was also awesome, especially if you unlocked tanks and foot soldiers

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

remember those? you youngin. Anyone remember when dunkaroos were popular? Or anyone out there remember nintendo cereal? that's right.

Not sure what Nintendo cereal is... but I definitely remember dunkaroos.