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hello! is anyone on here a part of their PhD program? or had any interactions with anyone who is?

they are APA accredited but i am wondering whats their reputation?

Originally Posted by jerseygrl

hello! is anyone on here a part of their PhD program? or had any interactions with anyone who is?

they are APA accredited but i am wondering whats their reputation?

poor reputation

This price tells you alot. It's too expensive. Also, it's a standalone program. Basically, none of those are any good.

Clinical Psychology

Full-time tuition $17,820/year


Advancement to Candidacy tuition (25% reduction) $13,365/year

Full-time Internship tuition (50% reduction) $8,910/year
$2,970/trimester not applicable not applicable not applicable

Half-time Internship tuition (25% reduction) $13,365/year

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So nice of them to give their students a 50% tuition reduction on internship when the school is providing and expending absolutely ZERO resources in their education. It's a get rich quick scheme for the "school", pure and simple.

anyone else have any thoughts? i feel that its worth especially if you have many other constraints in your life that you dont want to sacrifice (kids, work).

tuition is actually cheaper than several psyd programs, jon snow

Originally Posted by jerseygrl

anyone else have any thoughts? i feel that its worth especially if you have many other constraints in your life that you dont want to sacrifice (kids, work).

tuition is actually cheaper than several psyd programs, jon snow

Let's compare:

Fielding Ph.D. program
Full-time tuition $17,820/year

Joe Blow Ph.D. program
Full-time tuition $0/year

Fielding Ph.D. program
Advancement to Candidacy tuition (25% reduction) $13,365/year

Joe Blow Ph.D. program
Advancement to candidacy tuition (no reduction) $0/yea

Fielding Ph.D. rogram
Full-time Internship tuition (50% reduction) $8,910/year

Joe Blow PH.D. program
Internship - $0/year

This is the one that floors me most. Where do they get off charging you during your internship year? They're not doing anything. For that matter, where do they get off charging during externships, they're not doing anything.


If you have kids that you're worried about, do you think maybe not going 80K+ in the hole might be a good idea? Also, if you don't have to sacrifice work to go to the program, might that be an indicator that the quality is a little off?

Originally Posted by Jon Snow

poor reputation

This price tells you alot. It's too expensive. Also, it's a standalone program. Basically, none of those are any good.

Clinical Psychology

Full-time tuition $17,820/year


Advancement to Candidacy tuition (25% reduction) $13,365/year

Full-time Internship tuition (50% reduction) $8,910/year
$2,970/trimester not applicable not applicable not applicable

Half-time Internship tuition (25% reduction) $13,365/year

'

So nice of them to give their students a 50% tuition reduction on internship when the school is providing and expending absolutely ZERO resources in their education. It's a get rich quick scheme for the "school", pure and simple.

Who does NOT charge tuition for the internship years? No one I know, they all do

But most programs remit that tuition because they provide a waiver for that year. At least mine does.

I know of someone who went to Fielding and has failed the EPPP 3 times now...

Yikes! Reeeally old thread.

Originally Posted by cara susanna

But most programs remit that tuition because they provide a waiver for that year. At least mine does.

Even with tuition remission, we're still required to pay fees, which aren't cheap.

Originally Posted by paramour

Yikes! Reeeally old thread.



Even with tuition remission, we're still required to pay fees, which aren't cheap.

The fees can be a bit rough ($600-800 or so for me last semester, I believe), particularly given that I'm not exactly reaping the benefits of my "university recreation fee" or "university student health fee" very much right now.

Originally Posted by AcronymAllergy

The fees can be a bit rough ($600-800 or so for me last semester, I believe), particularly given that I'm not exactly reaping the benefits of my "university recreation fee" or "university student health fee" very much right now.

Ours are approximately twice that much per semester. (And that's if you manage to opt out of the required student health insurance fees, which are exorbitant.)

Originally Posted by paramour

Ours are approximately twice that much per semester. (And that's if you manage to opt out of the required student health insurance fees, which are exorbitant.)

I should stop complaining, then. Our student health insurance isn't mandatory, although they do give us a (I believe) $400 "allowance" each year if we opt to sign up for it.

Originally Posted by AcronymAllergy

I should stop complaining, then. Our student health insurance isn't mandatory, although they do give us a (I believe) $400 "allowance" each year if we opt to sign up for it.

Student health insurance is mandatory unless you can provide evidence that you have comparable or better insurance elsewhere. Fee is $415+ per semester (last time I checked). No allowance provided. It's crappy insurance, and there are all sorts of rules & restrictions re: who you can see & what you have to do before you can see anyone outside of the student health services (who must be your first and primary line of defense for healthcare, unless it's an emergency... and even then... you may die first ).

Originally Posted by paramour

Student health insurance is mandatory unless you can provide evidence that you have comparable or better insurance elsewhere. Fee is $415+ per semester (last time I checked). No allowance provided. It's crappy insurance, and there are all sorts of rules & restrictions re: who you can see & what you have to do before you can see anyone outside of the student health services (who must be your first and primary line of defense for healthcare, unless it's an emergency... and even then... you may die first ).

This was...by far...the biggest shock to me when I went back to school. I went from having executive-level health benefits to student health benefits....it felt like I moved to a 3rd world country.

Originally Posted by hdawn13

Who does NOT charge tuition for the internship years? No one I know, they all do

My university-based clinical Ph.D. Program does not charge tuition during internship.

Their APA accreditation is now on probation. Fielding has invaded Texas with cohort groups in Dallas, Austin, and Houston. Some of the faculty at the program I attend that were not very high quality faculty have departed from my program and now are teaching or mentoring students at Fielding. Fielding seems to attract a good number of ministers who are wanting to continue as ministers but want to have or add psychologists to their resume and practice psychology in their Churches. I would not recommend Fielding because of their model of having accelerated weekend courses and cohort meeting with faculty on a monthly basis. There just is not the needed continuity of faculty and resources to adequately train clinical psychologists.

Wait, 4410 is NOT recommending a professional school program?

Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that one. Apparently there are limits.

My advisor in my master's program helped a Fielding student with his research. The guy's manuscripts were horrific, and I'm glad that my name was never added to those pubs (just acknowledged). Regardless, he managed to land the chief intern position at Duke, so I guess he brought something to the table and he was a special snowflake after all.

I am familiar of the work of another student who graduated from Fielding because he unfortunately is one of the very few folks anywhere who researched something remotely related to my dissertation topic (for his own dissertation). I have a copy of his full dissertation and happened to run across his comps/candidacy exams as well (with comments from the evaluators). His dissertation is questionable. His candidacy exams were horrific, and he apparently failed them and had to repeat/rewrite entirely due to lots of improper everything.

...and yet...he will have the same title and license as you or I. Scary, huh?

The Fielding student who was the chief intern at Duke is someone whose professional accomplishments would put most students here to shame. He iis also a fine clinician and the fact that he was trained at Duke speaks for itself. Clearly the faculty at Duke had a different opinion of his papers than the poster here. This commentary is inappropriate and unprofessional.

Originally Posted by Neuropsych2be

The Fielding student who was the chief intern at Duke is someone whose professional accomplishments would put most students here to shame. He iis also a fine clinician and the fact that he was trained at Duke speaks for itself. Clearly the faculty at Duke had a different opinion of his papers than the poster here. This commentary is inappropriate and unprofessional.

I was referring to the student's research. There were concerns, and they weren't just mine. As far as I know, his pubs weren't reviewed in-depth during his internship interviews. I know nothing about the particular student's clinical skills, but I presume that they must be more than adequate and then some if he landed a position at Duke. I bring him up whenever someone discusses Fielding because there obviously are exceptions from such programs. Regardless, I stand by my original remarks re: the pubs I helped on to some extent; I am glad that my name did not make it on them. Take it as you wish.

Originally Posted by cara susanna

Wait, 4410 is NOT recommending a professional school program?

Does that mean bizarro-world logic actually applies and it's a good program? Is it opposite day?

Originally Posted by JeyRo

Does that mean bizarro-world logic actually applies and it's a good program? Is it opposite day?

Bad-bye!

Originally Posted by cara susanna

Wait, 4410 is NOT recommending a professional school program?

All FSPS are not equal. Fielding has a mentor-cohort model with locations all over the USA. They have accelerated courses that may meet over a four day weekend and spread out over a three month time span or basically three weekend courses that are full to half day long. Most other professional schools have the traditional curriculum where you have weekly classes for three hours or twice weekly classes on Tu-Th with weekly assignments and attendance over three to four months time span.