Who are the most laid back people in medicine?

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And where can I go to find them?

Thanks in advance

#semidepressed

Originally Posted by auburno5

and where can i go to find them?

Thanks in advance

#semidepressed

PM and R

Neurosurgeons.

Cubans.

podiatrists, no mcat stress no ec stress, no board stress, good pay and decent hours to top it all off...

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Originally Posted by D elegans

PM and R

x2

they make the best pre-lim interns as well interestingly enough

(I won't tell you who makes the worst as it might hurt some butts)

anesthesiologists, by a wide margin.

another vote for PM&R...

Originally Posted by DrMattOglesby

another vote for PM&R...

At first I was trying to figure out the formula in your signature, but then I became completely hypnotized by your avatar.

I'd say optometrists. Haven't met a gunner yet, mostly type B. Everybody helps each other out and emails study guides and grade calculators out to the entire class.

Originally Posted by Shnurek

I'd say optometrists. Haven't met a gunner yet, mostly type B. Everybody helps each other out and emails study guides and grade calculators out to the entire class.

Yeah sorry, I don't think I could respect myself if I was an optometrist. Nothing against the profession, just not for me.

Originally Posted by Shnurek

I'd say optometrists. Haven't met a gunner yet, mostly type B. Everybody helps each other out and emails study guides and grade calculators out to the entire class.

Probably largely class/school dependent. My med school class is like that (for the most part).

Anesthesiologists, hands down.

Originally Posted by auburnO5

Yeah sorry, I don't think I could respect myself if I was an optometrist. Nothing against the profession, just not for me.

Cool story bro, I love superfluous condescending comments. Keep it up!

That I have met? Anesthesiologists or Family Medicine-Peds

Rockfoot, unfortunately there is mcat, ec, and boards to contend with for podiatry, but the rest is true!

Originally Posted by RockFoot

podiatrists, no mcat stress no ec stress, no board stress, good pay and decent hours to top it all off...

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I dunno man I always hear stories about pods stepping on people's toes. intense dudes.

Originally Posted by D elegans

At first I was trying to figure out the formula in your signature, but then I became completely hypnotized by your avatar.

I'm still waiting for the day the blue circle goes in the blue 'yang'. *insert immature innuendo-ish comment here*

Anesthesia?? Tell me more...

Originally Posted by questiondoc

Rockfoot, unfortunately there is mcat, ec, and boards to contend with for podiatry, but the rest is true!

I know that, yet you don't have to stress about them as much, I didn't do hundreds of hours of research, volunteer work, shadowing, etc. I didn't need a 31+ on the mcat, and boards is pass fail, minimal competency eval, if you fail it, well, come on, you should have tried harder. so in fact, it was all true.

Originally Posted by auburnO5

Yeah sorry, I don't think I could respect myself if I was an optometrist. Nothing against the profession, just not for me.

That's cool but pharmacists will respect my oral and narcotic Rx priviledges: https://www.aoa.org/Images/oral.gif
https://www.aoa.org/Images/Controlled-Substance.gif

O ya and my future patients will respect my glaucoma treatment abilities in every state (except MA):
https://www.aoa.org/Images/glaucoma.gif

O ya and laser surgery privileges in two states is cool too: http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...3/prl20523.htm

O and Medicare pay parity with ophthalmology is cool too: http://www.aoa.org/x20898.xml

"Of the 56 specialties tracked by CMS, only two will see a larger percent increase than optometry in 2012. Of note, no MD specialty will see as much as a two percent increase in 2012."

Ya can't respect myself here

Originally Posted by RockFoot

I know that, yet you don't have to stress about them as much, I didn't do hundreds of hours of research, volunteer work, shadowing, etc. I didn't need a 31+ on the mcat, and boards is pass fail, minimal competency eval, if you fail it, well, come on, you should have tried harder. so in fact, it was all true.

you don't need a 31+ on the mcat for medicine if you are black or hispanic either

Well this thread derailed quickly

Originally Posted by PrideNeverDie

you don't need a 31+ on the mcat for medicine if you are black or hispanic either

lololol

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(Biased) Anesthesiology. One of the many reasons I switched from a surg sub-specialty to anesthesiology. Really enjoyed the people.

Also, would vote for derm. I know it seems counter-intuitive because you would expect them to be huge gunners, but since it was a whole different ball game back in the day, a lot of the attendings I worked with during 4th year were super chill. I guess that will change with time though...

@PrideNeverDie Cool story bro, take it back to the garbage racial preferences thread you started please

OP, my vote is for EM docs but I'm obviously a little biased there

Originally Posted by gasblaster

(Biased) Anesthesiology. One of the many reasons I switched from a surg sub-specialty to anesthesiology. Really enjoyed the people.

Also, would vote for derm. I know it seems counter-intuitive because you would expect them to be huge gunners, but since it was a whole different ball game back in the day, a lot of the attendings I worked with during 4th year were super chill. I guess that will change with time though...

Doubtful. The med students I met on the derm interview trail were by far the most normal gathering of interesting and down to earth people I've had the pleasure of hanging out with. The "gunner" types you refer to tend not to thrive in the derm world, often specifically because of how "super chill" all the attendings in the field are. No one would stand for the typical gunnerism that people may sometimes associate with other fields (I will refrain from casting any specialties in a negative light in this post, but you can probably use your imagination to figure out which specialties these people flock to).

Originally Posted by PrideNeverDie

you don't need a 31+ on the mcat for medicine if you are black or hispanic either

lol, instant thread derail.

Originally Posted by Shnurek

That's cool but pharmacists will respect my oral and narcotic Rx priviledges: https://www.aoa.org/Images/oral.gif
https://www.aoa.org/Images/Controlled-Substance.gif

O ya and my future patients will respect my glaucoma treatment abilities in every state (except MA):
https://www.aoa.org/Images/glaucoma.gif

O ya and laser surgery privileges in two states is cool too: http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...3/prl20523.htm

O and Medicare pay parity with ophthalmology is cool too: http://www.aoa.org/x20898.xml

"Of the 56 specialties tracked by CMS, only two will see a larger percent increase than optometry in 2012. Of note, no MD specialty will see as much as a two percent increase in 2012."

Ya can't respect myself here

damn you guys sound real laid back and chill

Gas. Have you read their forums? Guns, cars, and metal.
&
Derm. Once they've gotten derm they've proven themselves as cream of the crop, and whatever gunner tendencies they needed before fade.

What are the least laid back practitioners?

General surgery.
Obgyn.
Plastic surgery.
Family medicine (most aren't, but the bad ones are really bad)

Originally Posted by Substance

Gas. Have you read their forums? Guns, cars, and metal.
&
Derm. Once they've gotten derm they've proven themselves as cream of the crop, and whatever gunner tendencies they needed before fade.

What are the least laid back practitioners?

General surgery.
Obgyn.
Plastic surgery.
Family medicine (most aren't, but the bad ones are really bad)

Agree with all of this. And yes, there are a surprising number of jerks in family med. Kind of bizarre. I shadowed a family doc who you would think was a world-renowned neurosurgeon by his attitude and the way he talked to patients.

Originally Posted by GuyWhoDoesStuff

Doubtful. The med students I met on the derm interview trail were by far the most normal gathering of interesting and down to earth people I've had the pleasure of hanging out with. The "gunner" types you refer to tend not to thrive in the derm world, often specifically because of how "super chill" all the attendings in the field are. No one would stand for the typical gunnerism that people may sometimes associate with other fields (I will refrain from casting any specialties in a negative light in this post, but you can probably use your imagination to figure out which specialties these people flock to).

For the most part, the derm kids in my class are normal. Of course, there are one or two infamous gunner ones that I'm sure were able to put on an act for interviews. But you're right, the majority of derm kids I came across on TY interviews were nice kids.

Originally Posted by Substance

Gas. Have you read their forums? Guns, cars, and metal.
&
Derm. Once they've gotten derm they've proven themselves as cream of the crop, and whatever gunner tendencies they needed before fade.

What are the least laid back practitioners?

General surgery.
Obgyn.
Plastic surgery.
Family medicine (most aren't, but the bad ones are really bad)

Otolaryngology, of course....kidding aside, I do think they are the most laid back surgeons

Originally Posted by Shnurek

That's cool but pharmacists will respect my oral and narcotic Rx priviledges: https://www.aoa.org/Images/oral.gif
https://www.aoa.org/Images/Controlled-Substance.gif

O ya and my future patients will respect my glaucoma treatment abilities in every state (except MA):
https://www.aoa.org/Images/glaucoma.gif

O ya and laser surgery privileges in two states is cool too: http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...3/prl20523.htm

O and Medicare pay parity with ophthalmology is cool too: http://www.aoa.org/x20898.xml

"Of the 56 specialties tracked by CMS, only two will see a larger percent increase than optometry in 2012. Of note, no MD specialty will see as much as a two percent increase in 2012."

Ya can't respect myself here

You seem really relaxed and comfortable. No gigantic chip on your shoulder or anything like that.

Originally Posted by gasblaster

For the most part, the derm kids in my class are normal. Of course, there are one or two infamous gunner ones that I'm sure were able to put on an act for interviews. But you're right, the majority of derm kids I came across on TY interviews were nice kids.

Agreed, there are always exceptions. I did meet one or two people on the trail who I really really hoped wouldn't end up matching at my program with me (fortunately they did not). But other than these outliers, everyone else was surprisingly awesome, chill, and nice. The residents with whom I worked during my home derm rotation and two aways confirmed to me that the people who end up in derm really are nice, laid back great people for the most part.

Also, Anesthesiologists are definitely some of the most laid back, fun people to hang out with in the hospital.

Originally Posted by Whiskeypunch

You seem really relaxed and comfortable. No gigantic chip on your shoulder or anything like that.

Originally Posted by ronaldo23

damn you guys sound real laid back and chill

lol just informing the masses

So tell me more about gas...

You can find the most laid-back people at the top of the food chain.

Neurosurgery for sure.

rads

The least laidback are probably OB/Gyn and neurosurgery. I actually think the neurosurgeons are easier to get along with than the OB people.

I assume most people have already see this, but just in case:

Originally Posted by johnnydrama

The least laidback are probably OB/Gyn and neurosurgery. I actually think the neurosurgeons are easier to get along with than the OB people.

100% agree. Although, not to be sexist, male ob-gyn attendings and residents are completely fine in my experience.

You people are nuts. OB/Gyn is still surgery and many in that field have the stereotypical surgical attitude. Yuck.

PM&R is the answer.

Originally Posted by Roguelyn

You people are nuts. OB/Gyn is still surgery and many in that field have the stereotypical surgical attitude. Yuck.

PM&R is the answer.

They said ob/gyn was the least laid back. Read again...

Hyperbaric and Diving Medicine

Originally Posted by Roguelyn

OB/Gyn is still surgery

Only to OB/GYNs (gyn-onc exception).

Why do people keep recommending PM&R?

On the prelim interview trail, the only people I met who were going into it were people going to school in the Caribbean.

I have to imagine that's a sign it's not very desirable.

Originally Posted by sportsperson

Neurosurgery for sure.

I'd say we're pretty laid back, probably not the most. Burnt out, maybe, they run us ragged.

Originally Posted by johnnydrama

Why do people keep recommending PM&R?

Good question. In my experience, PM&R docs have a chip on their shoulders. No clue why (does that service get shat on or something?), but they're not friendly people at my institution.

Most laid-back from what I've seen has to be either Rads or Path. Best personalities are probably in Urology, but they still have that "surgical" tilt that might bother some.

Originally Posted by KinasePro

Good question. In my experience, PM&R docs have a chip on their shoulders. No clue why (does that service get shat on or something?), but they're not friendly people at my institution.

Most laid-back from what I've seen has to be either Rads or Path. Best personalities are probably in Urology, but they still have that "surgical" tilt that might bother some.

Too many dick jokes.

Originally Posted by neusu

I'd say we're pretty laid back, probably not the most. Burnt out, maybe, they run us ragged.

Evidently, you're too burned out to get the joke. Get some sleep.