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Old 05-03-2012, 07:48 PM   #1
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I understand that the MD/PhD degrees are supposed to create doctors who research about medical issues but does this always have to be the case? I'm really debating whether I want to go for an MD/PhD or just a PhD because I have other research interests. I really do want to become a physician but I'd like to continue doing research in the environment and for bioremediation. Are MD/PhD's restricted to biomedical research or are they allowed to branch out? It doesn't seem so since most schools restrict them to certain labs during the research years.

Also, on a side note, is it unheard of for someone to apply to both MD/PhD programs and PhD programs in the same cycle? I ask this because I am kind of a borderline applicant would like to get into at least something this cycle (I really don't want to spend a gap year doing nothing). I like research more so I don't think I'll be heart broken if I can't make it into an MD program but I'll be sad about not making it into a grad program. Sorry, I've just recently made the decision to pursue a research degree instead of purely a medical degree so I may be sounding a bit silly. Feel free to correct me or just tell me that I'm being naive.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:21 PM   #2
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from personal experience, i go to Rutgers University, and i spoke with the director of the MD/PhD program. he said that if you are accepted to the MD/PhD program, you can be accepted to any PhD program at the school, whether it be Neuroscience or philosophy. i doubt you'll have such luck with MSTP (given the name and all).
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:20 PM   #3
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I understand that the MD/PhD degrees are supposed to create doctors who research about medical issues but does this always have to be the case? I'm really debating whether I want to go for an MD/PhD or just a PhD because I have other research interests. I really do want to become a physician but I'd like to continue doing research in the environment and for bioremediation. Are MD/PhD's restricted to biomedical research or are they allowed to branch out? It doesn't seem so since most schools restrict them to certain labs during the research years.

Also, on a side note, is it unheard of for someone to apply to both MD/PhD programs and PhD programs in the same cycle? I ask this because I am kind of a borderline applicant would like to get into at least something this cycle (I really don't want to spend a gap year doing nothing). I like research more so I don't think I'll be heart broken if I can't make it into an MD program but I'll be sad about not making it into a grad program. Sorry, I've just recently made the decision to pursue a research degree instead of purely a medical degree so I may be sounding a bit silly. Feel free to correct me or just tell me that I'm being naive.
I think you should just go PhD. Unless you have a substantial desire to work with patients, don't do the MD.
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Just do the PhD if you're interested in stuff like bioremediation. I would guess it would be hard to really correlate that to anything clinically relevant, or at least to convince a department chair it is relevant..
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:34 AM   #5
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start researching individual schools early. it's not true at all that students are limited in the scope of what they are allowed to do for their phd. it really varies from school to school, depending not just on policy but also what the strengths of the school are as well. perhaps look at the schools you are interested in for the phd and if they have a med school... and so on and so forth.
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I really do want to become a physician but I'd like to continue doing research in the environment and for bioremediation. Are MD/PhD's restricted to biomedical research or are they allowed to branch out? It doesn't seem so since most schools restrict them to certain labs during the research years.
I'd look into schools that offer/allow PhDs in Epidemiology and/or Public Health. Environmental health is a very important component of both of these fields, and it fits your interests. A couple of schools with strong public health programs that come to mind are Wisconsin, Minnesota, Vandy and Emory. There are definitely others.
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I'd like to continue doing research in the environment and for bioremediation.
... what does this have to do with being a doctor?
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I think if you were set on being a doctor, helping people, etc first and you recently found out that you enjoy research, you should consider pursuing the dual degree. I have a friend that wants to do an MD/PhD but he can't stand people. I told him to just go for a PhD because it's silly to want to gain that medical degree without a desire to want to be a physician too.
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There aren't a lot of schools that will allow you to do something like philosophy or math, but there are more that allow epi or psych or anthro. Send me a pm if you want to talk more or about specific schools. I know most of the ones allowing students to pursue stats/math, if you have any interest in those
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