Step 2 or 3 scores important for fellowship?

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Just curious as to the importance of step 2 or 3 in regards to applying for fellowships. Heavily weighted or not at all.

I'm interested to know the answer to this question.

Hello,

As far as we are concerned, we look at the overall applicant, not just the best scores for the fellowship. A passing score is obviously required, but that's pretty much it. I have heard of some places having a cut-off for Step 1 (even for fellowship) and I imagine it's simply because they want to support their fellows when the rankings come up and want to have enough ammo to push them through.

Also, I am the current fellow at UCSD and I can vouch for this place being a great place to work and live. If you have any interests in fellowship, I highly recommend this place!

(And yes, I matched )

Originally Posted by yaihjai1

Just curious as to the importance of step 2 or 3 in regards to applying for fellowships. Heavily weighted or not at all.

are you talking about fellowships geared towards people trying to get into a derm. residency or post-residency fellowships? yes for the former, no for the latter.

If step scores don't matter for post-residency fellowships, what actually does? Is it the obvious: research, papers, volunteer? For those who are currently fellows, what do you think was the most important thing?

I've also heard its very much who you know. Is that the case?

Originally Posted by Balderdash

I've also heard its very much who you know. Is that the case?

Sorta...if you are HOT, then I'd be more inclined to favor you...oh, and you better have worked with someone I know (and that person better back you up and say you're God's gift to procedural derm or dermpath, etc.)...lol.

Originally Posted by yaihjai1

Just curious as to the importance of step 2 or 3 in regards to applying for fellowships. Heavily weighted or not at all.

everything is important and heavily weighted in anything related to derm.

Originally Posted by doc MD

everything is important and heavily weighted in anything related to derm.

Actually, steps 2 and 3 are not in this case. They were a waste of time anyway. The fellowships don't typically care about the inservice scores so they don't typically give a rat's fanny-pack about the steps. I can only speak for domesticated, I mean domestic, applicants.

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Originally Posted by pupster

Sorta...if you are HOT, then I'd be more inclined to favor you...oh, and you better have worked with someone I know (and that person better back you up and say you're God's gift to procedural derm or dermpath, etc.)...lol.

i'm hot was told many times. hopefully it was score and not hotness that got me derm at my #1.

Originally Posted by dermathalon

Actually, steps 2 and 3 are not in this case. They were a waste of time anyway. The fellowships don't typically care about the inservice scores so they don't typically give a rat's fanny-pack about the steps. I can only speak for domesticated, I mean domestic, applicants.

if this is the case, then what does really matter??

Originally Posted by doc MD

i'm hot was told many times. hopefully it was score and not hotness that got me derm at my #1.



if this is the case, then what does really matter??

Hotness does matter. Actually, it seriously does.

Your connections will matter and it's good to make these connections as a resident and try to go to conferences and network. Your local mentor in residency should help with this too. Letters of support and whatnot will tie into this.

How you present yourself matters. Are you confident but not arrogant? Are you good-looking? Do you come across genuine?

Decisions are made on subjective factors.

If you did horrible on the inservice repeatedly then that will hurt you but subjective factors are king/queen.

we take 'em ugly. real ugly!

for dermpath: the idea is that maybe they'll be able to scare the diagnosis out of the slide. if this heinous beast stares at the slide long enough, the slide won't be able to take it and will just volunteer the diagnosis out of fright.

for cosmetics: the ugly fellow will make all the clients feel better about their intrinsic ugliness because though they are very ugly, it will be to a lesser degree than the hideous fellow.

for peds: kids love an ugly person. this is well known. good looking people scare kids because kids understand that in most cases they will grow up to be ugly. they don't need to be reminded that a select few grow up to be hot, and that it will definitely not be them.

Originally Posted by sore eye asses

we take 'em ugly. real ugly!

for dermpath: the idea is that maybe they'll be able to scare the diagnosis out of the slide. if this heinous beast stares at the slide long enough, the slide won't be able to take it and will just volunteer the diagnosis out of fright.

for cosmetics: the ugly fellow will make all the clients feel better about their intrinsic ugliness because though they are very ugly, it will be to a lesser degree than the hideous fellow.

for peds: kids love an ugly person. this is well known. good looking people scare kids because kids understand that in most cases they will grow up to be ugly. they don't need to be reminded that a select few grow up to be hot, and that it will definitely not be them.