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Originally Posted by Cozell

This is kind of a reply to all of you guys.

If a chem major may have a bit of trouble since he lacks upper level bio's where does that leave me as a psychology major.

And Max why do you hate chem lol.

FlyHi was a striking example, do you guys consider chem to be a class one could do well in even if they hate math or just have to work hard in math.

And I would hope that the first year upper level bio's in Pod school are not held to as high a standard as the next to years (In terms of landing residencies).

After learning the fundamentals of chemistry, I no longer found joy in extracting the nuances of our chemical world. It's probably because it doesn't and won't ever apply to my life, and so upon learning it, I feel that I have wasted time only to perform well on a test.

I honestly think everyone can do well in general chem, even if you hate or suck at math. Gen chem doesn't expose you to calculus or any hard math concept. Some algebra and some proportions. No trig work either, a lot of "plug and chug."

If you want upper level bio, enroll in the courses. Chemistry lends itself nicely to learn biochem. Other than genetics (and alas, human anat this fall), I won't have any bio class other than bio 1 and 2

Khan Academy will be your friend. Watch all his chem series and you will ace chem.

At my university all chem major need to take some upper div bios like Genetics, Bio Chem, Toxicology and a few others. We get exposure to all the sciences.

In all reality all this knowledge will be out the window when we hit Pod school. Who cares if I can read a NMR, or do Partical in a Box lol.

Didnt want to make a new thread since its kind of in line with this topic.

I will have room for extra sciences classes my senior year and maybe one or two my junior. What upper level bio classes would you guys recommend I will only have had the pre reqs (in the way of sciences).

Also would It be too demanding and or pointless to take an upper level bio in my junior year on top of physics, Ochem, my 2 psych capstones and a foreign language in one semester (mind you it will be my first year at a Uni.), Or do you think it is, doable and worth doing.

Thanks guys. BTW I got a 100% on my latest math test i think i found my problem and fixed it.

Originally Posted by Cozell

Didnt want to make a new thread since its kind of in line with this topic.

I will have room for extra sciences classes my senior year and maybe one or two my junior. What upper level bio classes would you guys recommend I will only have had the pre reqs (in the way of sciences).

Also would It be too demanding and or pointless to take an upper level bio in my junior year on top of physics, Ochem, my 2 psych capstones and a foreign language in one semester (mind you it will be my first year at a Uni.), Or do you think it is, doable and worth doing.

Thanks guys. BTW I got a 100% on my latest math test i think i found my problem and fixed it.

Don't take an extra science with orgo and physics. It's not worth it. My friend did orgo, physics, orgo lab (9 hours a week in lab), and genetics and genetics lab. She wanted to die. There is no need for you to take that much science, I promise. It will ruin you socially, perhaps academically, and is overall unnecessary. This is pod school, not MD/Ph.D admissions, you don't need to prove yourself that hard.

Originally Posted by MaxillofacialMN

Don't take an extra science with orgo and physics. It's not worth it. My friend did orgo, physics, orgo lab (9 hours a week in lab), and genetics and genetics lab. She wanted to die. There is no need for you to take that much science, I promise. It will ruin you socially, perhaps academically, and is overall unnecessary. This is pod school, not MD/Ph.D admissions, you don't need to prove yourself that hard.

I thought I would get a response like that, It really doesnt sound worth it when you put it like that. So would it even matter if I took some upper div. Bio's my senior year I mean I would already have applied by then.

Originally Posted by Cozell

I thought I would get a response like that, It really doesnt sound worth it when you put it like that. So would it even matter if I took some upper div. Bio's my senior year I mean I would already have applied by then.

I wholeheartedly disagree with Max on this one. Just because this is pod school doesn't mean you shouldn't try your best in college. Most people can't just "turn it on" once they hit pod school. I recognize that Max and I have very different approaches, and that neither of us have actually attended pod school. We don't know what the school is really like. You would best ask the advice of dyk, dtrack, Anklebreaker or the many other pod students who donate their time on this forum.

P.S. I am not a gunner...

Originally Posted by Cozell

I thought I would get a response like that, It really doesnt sound worth it when you put it like that. So would it even matter if I took some upper div. Bio's my senior year I mean I would already have applied by then.

I mean.... it probably doesn't matter. I never took human anatomy (Bio 2 lab had a fetal pig dissection, but other than that), and so I'm taking it this fall. My adviser sort of strong-armed me into it. She is also under the impression that I am taking physiology next spring... Yeah.... we'll see about that.

Originally Posted by SuperFeisty

I wholeheartedly disagree with Max on this one. Just because this is pod school doesn't mean you shouldn't try your best in college. Most people can't just "turn it on" once they hit pod school. I recognize that Max and I have very different approaches, and that neither of us have actually attended pod school. We don't know what the school is really like. You would best ask the advice of dyk, dtrack, Anklebreaker or the many other pod students who donate their time on this forum.

P.S. I am not a gunner...

Every pod/med student I have ever talked to has said that there is "no way" to prepare yourself for pod school. And in terms of classes they recommend, they literally have all said, "Any classes you WANT to take." The stuff you learn in undergrad is a pittance compared to professional school. So their advice was to enjoy college, because pod school sucks.

But that's just my experience. I always welcome other opinions, especially those that frequent this site.

Speaking of, I haven't seen bobdolerson in a while..

Originally Posted by MaxillofacialMN

Every pod/med student I have ever talked to has said that there is "no way" to prepare yourself for pod school. And in terms of classes they recommend, they literally have all said, "Any classes you WANT to take." The stuff you learn in undergrad is a pittance compared to professional school. So their advice was to enjoy college, because pod school sucks.

But that's just my experience. I always welcome other opinions, especially those that frequent this site.

Speaking of, I haven't seen bobdolerson in a while..

Haha, I guess the difference is that I wanted to take the upper division bios and math.

Originally Posted by SuperFeisty

Haha, I guess the difference is that I wanted to take the upper division bios and math.

Hahahahaha. I guess you win!

But being that my major is psych and your majors are heavy sciences (chemistry ect. even though it's not alot of bios it shows rigor), Would it be needed for me to take these upper bio's even if it's senior year.

I just dont see how taking 2 upper bios my senior year will affect my chances of acceptance since I will have applied before the semester even starts. I would hope it would help my chances I just dont know though.

Originally Posted by Cozell

But being that my major is psych and your majors are heavy sciences (chemistry ect. even though it's not alot of bios it shows rigor), Would it be needed for me to take these upper bio's even if it's senior year.

I just dont see how taking 2 upper bios my senior year will affect my chances of acceptance since I will have applied before the semester even starts. I would hope it would help my chances I just dont know though.

You're probably right, it won't affect your chances at all. That's why I'm telling you not to do it unless you have a personal desire to learn about physical chemistry or molecular biology.

The only way it will matter, I think, is if you did poorly on your pre reqs and you needed to show the adcoms that you are capable of doing well in science courses. I'm not sure how this works if you are applying before you get a grade in those classes, but they might give you props for trying?

Don't take physical chemistry. Its a nightmare.

I'm not taking any more sciences classes that are required for me to get a BS in chemistry. I want to enjoy my senior year.

I completely forgot to mention my interview with OCPM. There, the Dean mentioned to all us interviewees that we were here because of our academic success as well as our desire to push ourselves past the required expectations. She emphasized that students who challenge themselves in college with more upper division courses have a far better chance at gaining acceptance as say someone who ONLY took the bare minimum in required courses.

Originally Posted by SuperFeisty

I completely forgot to mention my interview with OCPM. There, the Dean mentioned to all us interviewees that we were here because of our academic success as well as our desire to push ourselves past the required expectations. She emphasized that students who challenge themselves in college with more upper division courses have a far better chance at gaining acceptance as say someone who ONLY took the bare minimum in required courses.

Glad to hear even though this is just what I was afraid of,

Heres the thing Fiesty I will be transferring from a CC and it would be tough for me to squeeze in an extra science let alone upper div bio before junior year is over. This could possible hurt my GPA if I try, Im set to be a psych major btw (I know I repeated some of this info but its just incase anyone didnt read the old post).

It sounds like I will be at a disadvantage for taking the 4 pre reqs only, If this is truly the case then I will just have to suck it up and prep for 3 labs a semester or just switch to a bio/public health/other science ect. degree I have 5 days until I early register for classes so I can change my major up until then.

Very Confused right now I really like psych but if all this is true then majoring in psych at this point will hurt me for sure. Any suggestions on majors that dont require math beyond Stats but emphasis science.

What I meant was for you to challenge yourself. It doesn't HAVE to be via upper division bio courses. I interpret the schools as basically disliking people who goof off their senior year and take something like, intro to woodworking and/or puppetry. If your schedule is packed and you're taking all these psych courses, they won't hold it against u. I guess I didn't understand how busy you were.

I register Tommorow I still dont know if I should do G chem 1 or an Intro I really want an A in all chem courses (IK IK).

I guess the deciding factor is if the Pod schools look down on me for taking an Intro course.

I register tommorow at 9am Help !!

And to Fiesty thank you for the advice I will be kind of loaded down but I will still try to put in a course or two junior year(if i can) and undoubtedly senior year.

Originally Posted by Cozell

I register Tommorow I still dont know if I should do G chem 1 or an Intro I really want an A in all chem courses (IK IK).

I guess the deciding factor is if the Pod schools look down on me for taking an Intro course.

I register tommorow at 9am Help !!

And to Fiesty thank you for the advice I will be kind of loaded down but I will still try to put in a course or two junior year(if i can) and undoubtedly senior year.

They won't care you took an intro course, but you better do well in it.

Originally Posted by MaxillofacialMN

They won't care you took an intro course, but you better do well in it.

I think im going to hop right into G chem 1 I already registerd I just hope I made the right choice.

Since I have no chem Background I checked out the Schaums college chemistry book I will try to read that hopefully I wont be dum as a rock when I get to class so I can pull of an A / high B.

Anyone have experience with Schaums.

Thanks for all of your advice guys it helped me alot in this choice.

Originally Posted by Cozell

I think im going to hop right into G chem 1 I already registerd I just hope I made the right choice.

Since I have no chem Background I checked out the Schaums college chemistry book I will try to read that hopefully I wont be dum as a rock when I get to class so I can pull of an A / high B.

Anyone have experience with Schaums.

Thanks for all of your advice guys it helped me alot in this choice.

I am in the same situation as you and I decided to go intro chem just to ensure I pick up all the info and the A will certainly help my Science GPA. Good Luck!

Originally Posted by BTR1208

I am in the same situation as you and I decided to go intro chem just to ensure I pick up all the info and the A will certainly help my Science GPA. Good Luck!

Are you currenlty at a Uni. the prob with my choice was also the fact of messing up my transfer eligibility (im at a CC) if I take an intro. If i dont take G chem I wont be able to transfer over the summer without breaking up my sequence and I may not be able to take O chem at my uni fall semester, it would just push me back sort of.

Plus all the people at my school and some ppl on here say the intro is the same as G chem and If I ace intro I couldve aced G chem since they do intro sections in G chem

Good luck to you to man and I hope I made the right choice Im sure you did though its so much safer.