New DO schools are screening like crazy

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Campbell requires 3.2 and I just got this from alabama:

Dear Prospective Student,

Your ACCOMAS application has been received and will be reviewed by the Admissions Committee for academic and non- academic achievements including :
· Transcripts with individual course and GPA scores
· Medical College Admissions Test (MCAT)
· Personal profile
· Personal Statement
After the ACCOMAS application review, students who meet our admissions criteria will be asked to submit a supplemental application along with a $50.00 non-refundable application fee. You will be notified about the supplemental within the next 2 weeks.


I guess this means alabama is only sending secondaries to a small amount of people?

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

Campbell requires 3.2 and I just got this from alabama:

Dear Prospective Student,

Your ACCOMAS application has been received and will be reviewed by the Admissions Committee for academic and non- academic achievements including :
· Transcripts with individual course and GPA scores
· Medical College Admissions Test (MCAT)
· Personal profile
· Personal Statement
After the ACCOMAS application review, students who meet our admissions criteria will be asked to submit a supplemental application along with a $50.00 non-refundable application fee. You will be notified about the supplemental within the next 2 weeks.


I guess this means alabama is only sending secondaries to a small amount of people?

They can send secondaries out to a ton of people. Just keep in mind these new schools don't really have too many rules to follow and have no results so they could do anything. Good luck to the people that go to these schools, they may need it.

I was just curious if alabama is going to do what WCU does and only send secondaries to people they're interested in.

This message you got implies that yes they are screening pre-secondary.

It doesn't tell you how many though. They may send secondaries to 80% of applicants to collect $$, or they may do like some schools and only send to 15% so the can reduce the # of applications they have to read.

If the screening requirement is a 3.2 then there will be a ton of secondary applicants, Its difficult to confer upon you just how many applicants will meet that requirement

Originally Posted by HooliganSnail

If the screening requirement is a 3.2 then there will be a ton of secondary applicants, Its difficult to confer upon you just how many applicants will meet that requirement

for a new school with regional bias? no way, jose

Where is this notion that new schools will start with low standards coming from? I would think that new schools essentially have a carte blanche.

Originally Posted by NeuroLAX

Where is this notion that new schools will start with low standards coming from? I would think that new schools essentially have a carte blanche.

I think most people would choose a school that has graduated a class over a new school and, consequently, new schools are filled with people that had no other options ( or they are from the region).

Originally Posted by NeuroLAX

Where is this notion that new schools will start with low standards coming from? I would think that new schools essentially have a carte blanche.

Because new schools always have a lot of problems and they are an extra headache for their students. Why buy a Fumbickrr ( made up car) that's new over a new BMW that you know will get you where you want and has a good record?
Not to mention that new DO schools don't give scholarships for their students like MD schools, so essentially they get basically the worst applicants with no where else to go 70% of the time.

Originally Posted by serenade

Because new schools always have a lot of problems and they are an extra headache for their students. Why buy a Fumbickrr ( made up car) that's new over a new BMW that you know will get you where you want and has a good record?
Not to mention that new DO schools don't give scholarships for their students like MD schools, so essentially they get basically the worst applicants with no where else to go 70% of the time.

Originally Posted by serenade

Because new schools always have a lot of problems and they are an extra headache for their students. Why buy a Fumbickrr ( made up car) that's new over a new BMW that you know will get you where you want and has a good record?
Not to mention that new DO schools don't give scholarships for their students like MD schools, so essentially they get basically the worst applicants with no where else to go 70% of the time.

So why they are screening like crazy then if the majority of the applicants they gonna get will most likely have 3.0-3.2 GPAs and 22-25 MCAT?

Originally Posted by Temperature101

So why they are screening like crazy then if the majority of the applicants they gonna get will most likely have 3.0-3.2 GPAs and 22-25 MCAT?

My guess would be to get as good of a class as they can get. Think about it, if they only interview people with 3.2 and up, then the class will only consist of students with 3.2+

It gives the schools assurance. It seems like DO schools are getting more and more selective.

Originally Posted by Temperature101

So why they are screening like crazy then if the majority of the applicants they gonna get will most likely have 3.0-3.2 GPAs and 22-25 MCAT?

Stupidity and pride.

I expect them to have a good chunk of their class empty in the coming year.

I'm sure they're just trying to make you feel special, Cole.

They'll screen hard, then realize they only have a handful of "qualified" applicants. Then they'll be more lenient.

Originally Posted by GypsyHummus

My guess would be to get as good of a class as they can get. Think about it, if they only interview people with 3.2 and up, then the class will only consist of students with 3.2+

It gives the schools assurance. It seems like DO schools are getting more and more selective.

New schools can't be too selective. The only above-average applicants they're going to get are the IS ones. All the other ones will be applying to established schools.

These schools are likely going to screen until December when they see how many people actually have paid their deposit and how many seats are taken. Then they'll have to go lax.

Originally Posted by Temperature101

So why they are screening like crazy then if the majority of the applicants they gonna get will most likely have 3.0-3.2 GPAs and 22-25 MCAT?

They are hoping to catch people who's stats are a little low for established schools. If you are sitting at a 3.2 and apply everywhere, they will be looking for you. Also, NC has multiple allopathic schools with very high admission stats, so if you want to stay in the area but are not competitive enough for Duke and UNC, they are hoping to pull from that pool.

Originally Posted by AliceNWndrlnd

They are hoping to catch people who's stats are a little low for established schools. If you are sitting at a 3.2 and apply everywhere, they will be looking for you. Also, NC has multiple allopathic schools with very high admission stats, so if you want to stay in the area but are not competitive enough for Duke and UNC, they are hoping to pull from that pool.

North Carolina has a lot of schools with average admission states and two with admission stats similar to CCOM. You guys have it majorly lucky.

Originally Posted by serenade

North Carolina has a lot of schools with average admission states and two with admission stats similar to CCOM. You guys have it majorly lucky.

Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and ECU

I thought of UNC, Duke, and Wake as above average schools and ECU as being "average"

Originally Posted by Poliscidoc

Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and ECU

I thought of UNC, Duke, and Wake as above average schools and ECU as being "average"

I'd put ECU as below average due to their strong regional bias. Average 29 MCAT, which is below the MD average.

Originally Posted by Mbeas

I'd put ECU as below average due to their strong regional bias.

I would call it super strong. They only take people from NC. I would say that ECU would be the catch all for people wanting to stay instate. Either go to ECU and pay a super low tuition or do MD out of state or DO instate for nearly the same price. Which are they going to pick?

Originally Posted by Poliscidoc

Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and ECU

I thought of UNC, Duke, and Wake as above average schools and ECU as being "average"

Don't you have another school? Brody? Duke is top tier. UNC and Wake Forest are average MD schools in terms of admission stats.

Originally Posted by serenade

Don't you have another school? Brody? Duke is top tier. UNC and Wake Forest are average MD schools in terms of admission stats.

Brody is ECU and really Wake and UNC are average? Dang guess it shows how unaverage I am

Originally Posted by Mbeas

I'd put ECU as below average due to their strong regional bias. Average 29 MCAT, which is below the MD average.

I'm pretty sure ECU doesn't take OOS at all. I was going to apply, but they aren't on AMCAS and SDNers said they don't take OOS.

Originally Posted by Poliscidoc

Brody is ECU and really Wake and UNC are average? Dang guess it shows how unaverage I am

Yea you're very below average for DO, making you extremely below average for DO. No offense.

Originally Posted by MedPR

I'm pretty sure ECU doesn't take OOS at all. I was going to apply, but they aren't on AMCAS and SDNers said they don't take OOS.



Yea you're very below average for DO, making you extremely below average for DO. No offense.

Wouldn't you be below average and then extremely below average too? Or is the MCAT your saving magic eraser? No offense

Play nice boys...

Originally Posted by Poliscidoc

is the MCAT your saving magic eraser? No offense

For DO it seems to be that way...now for MD...it's a different story.

Originally Posted by Poliscidoc

Wouldn't you be below average and then extremely below average too? Or is the MCAT your saving magic eraser? No offense

GPAs can vary tremendously depending on school, department, majors, and professors. The most absolute, direct comparison is MCAT...and well..he's more than one standard deviation above yours.

Does anyone know if each school you applied to will send you a little email saying "we received your primary are now reviewing ..." ?

I'm gonna retake didn't ever say "I rocked that bia and a 23 is awesome"

Originally Posted by DrRichand1

Does anyone know if each school you applied to will send you a little email saying "we received your primary are now reviewing ..." ?

Since this thread is about schools that screen like crazy I did from campbell

Originally Posted by serenade

Stupidity and pride.

I expect them to have a good chunk of their class empty in the coming year.

Keep in mind that the average applicant has a 3.4/3.3/25 and over half of all applicants walk away empty handed. There will not have a problem filling these classes with 3.2+/25+ students if they choose.

Originally Posted by TwinsFan

Keep in mind that the average applicant has a 3.4/3.3/25 and over half of all applicants walk away empty handed. There will not have a problem filling these classes with 3.2+/25+ students if they choose.

Gpa SD:~.27
Effectively that means that about 30% of all applications are invalidated. Include now a regional favoring, being new, etc and you're fundamentally going to have lower scores. Furthermore applications to DO are a dualality, you have a lot of good and a lot of bad, not many in the middle.

Originally Posted by Poliscidoc

Wouldn't you be below average and then extremely below average too? Or is the MCAT your saving magic eraser? No offense

My GPA is certainly below average, but my MCAT and URM status are my "saving magic eraser."

Edit: Well, My MCAT alone is saving me for DO schools. MCAT/URM for MD.

Originally Posted by MedPR

My GPA is certainly below average, but my MCAT and URM status are my "saving magic eraser."

Great job on the MCAT, dude

I remember recently I didn't know my app stats, so I just retrieved my password and took a look at my GPA stats. My grad GPA really helped my total sGPA, and my MCAT definitely helped, too.

Originally Posted by MedPR

I'm pretty sure ECU doesn't take OOS at all. I was going to apply, but they aren't on AMCAS and SDNers said they don't take OOS.

Basically what I meant

Campbell seems like it could potentially run a pretty strong program out of the gate. From what I've seen it appears to be organized, have strong support from the state and seems to be making good connections in the area for it's students. The faculty also seems to be legit-- From the admissions people thru the teaching staff who are mostly coming from NC MD schools and established DO schools. Don't understand the assumption that just because it is new it is a poor choice.

[QUOTE=Mr Kenobi;12778522]Campbell seems like it could potentially run a pretty strong program out of the gate. From what I've seen it appears to be organized, have strong support from the state and seems to be making good connections in the area for it's students. The faculty also seems to be legit-- From the admissions people thru the teaching staff who are mostly coming from NC MD schools and established DO schools. Don't understand the assumption that just because it is new it is a poor choice.[/QUOTE]

No upper classmen = no one to tell you how to study.
No previous alumni = no residency directors to say your school trains students well.
New schools score lower on the comlex statistically.
No established connections to hospitals and rotation sites beyond the bare min for accreditation.
No Research funding or option ( It is in the middle of nowhere so you can't even work at another institute.
I can go on for a while...

[QUOTE=serenade;12778685]

Originally Posted by Mr Kenobi

Campbell seems like it could potentially run a pretty strong program out of the gate. From what I've seen it appears to be organized, have strong support from the state and seems to be making good connections in the area for it's students. The faculty also seems to be legit-- From the admissions people thru the teaching staff who are mostly coming from NC MD schools and established DO schools. Don't understand the assumption that just because it is new it is a poor choice.[/QUOTE]

No upper classmen = no one to tell you how to study.
No previous alumni = no residency directors to say your school trains students well.
New schools score lower on the comlex statistically.
No established connections to hospitals and rotation sites beyond the bare min for accreditation.
No Research funding or option ( It is in the middle of nowhere so you can't even work at another institute.
I can go on for a while...

Are you applying there?

Originally Posted by mr kenobi

campbell seems like it could potentially run a pretty strong program out of the gate. From what i've seen it appears to be organized, have strong support from the state and seems to be making good connections in the area for it's students. The faculty also seems to be legit-- from the admissions people thru the teaching staff who are mostly coming from nc md schools and established do schools. Don't understand the assumption that just because it is new it is a poor choice.

Originally Posted by serenade

no upper classmen = no one to tell you how to study.
No previous alumni = no residency directors to say your school trains students well.
New schools score lower on the comlex statistically.
No established connections to hospitals and rotation sites beyond the bare min for accreditation.
No research funding or option ( it is in the middle of nowhere so you can't even work at another institute.
I can go on for a while...

+1.

It could potentially develop into a good program, but that's unrelated.

Anyone apply to Marian in Indiana? I'm an indy resident so i'm very curious to see how they go about this... 2nd med school in indy ever! movin on up in the world

[QUOTE=Mr Kenobi;12778726]

Originally Posted by serenade

Are you applying there?

Not unless I score a 24 or something..