Do doctors like to mispronounce words?

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Potato vs potato

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Originally Posted by jesse120

Also, do you guys know the correct pronunciation of vena cava?

In high school / college I heard it pronounced: VEEna CAYva
now in med school: VAYna CAWva

Wee-na ca-wa.

Since Latin is no longer routinely taught, all our medical-ese is nonsense bastardization mispronunciation of the V.

Cf. Weni widi wici.; Nuclear wessels.

that sounds like a russian accent......

Originally Posted by VisionaryTics

Sont-a-meter.

All my rage.

Originally Posted by ijn

THIS. Sole reason I didn't consider a career in pathology.

Originally Posted by FSU2013

Every time someone says "sont eh meter" I expect them to turn up their nose and raise a pinky from their drink.......

So. Unbelievably. Pretentious.


Tangentially related: Encyclo- pay - dea (see:HIMYM)

i am listening to a path lecture right now. sorry for not believing that this existed.

Resp-EYE-ratory system

ANN-jin-uh vs. an-JY-nuh


TINN-it-iss vs. tin-NY-tis

Originally Posted by facetguy

ANN-jin-uh vs. an-JY-nuh


TINN-it-iss vs. tin-NY-tis

In case it's not clear to others, in both of those instances the former is correct.

Originally Posted by evilbooyaa

I know Gilbert is supposed to be pronounced Geel Bear due to him being French. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

The thread was with regard to physicians mispronouncing words, so I was making the point that that was not a mispronunciation. But whatever, pronounce it however you want.

Originally Posted by jtdMU2010

Media-Stine-Um here in Missouri. Haven't ever heard of Media-Ass-Stinum before.

I've heard "Umbul-Ike-Us" and Umbilicus used often here.

A-Pop-tosis VS A-Po-Tosis seems to be debated at times at my school.

Dua-Deen-Um and Du-Oden-Um are both used here by different professors.

Heard contimeters a few times in some lectures by a british physiologist.

Doowa-deenum

Entree--soppa-thee

Originally Posted by YH5

Do you pronounce it apo-ptosis or a-POP-tosis?

I have had several professors in undergrad and med school tell me that it is apo-ptosis, but Goljan and other professors pronounce it as a-POP-tosis. I prefer apo-ptosis.

But if you say apo-ptosis, shouldn't you also say helico-pter?

omg! For nomenclature - one of my professors says noh-men-clah-chure instead of noh-men-clay-chure. it drives me crazy. umbi-lie-cus is another. I'm like where are you from?

Originally Posted by Dapado33

But if you say apo-ptosis, shouldn't you also say helico-pter?

Two different things. It's a silent "P" in this case like "pterodactyl." A "p" in front of a "t" is not necessarily a silent "p," but in certain cases it is. Like optometry is not a silent "p." Anyway, I should defer this to VoiceOfReason, he seems to know the etymology angle.

Edit: I think it's because they're two different words. "Apo-" means "away from," and "ptosis" is "falling." I think it's named because of the appearance of the apoptotic bodies separating from the cell, or "falling away from" the cell.

Originally Posted by CaptainSSO

Two different things. It's a silent "P" in this case like "pterodactyl." A "p" in front of a "t" is not necessarily a silent "p," but in certain cases it is. Like optometry. Anyway, I should defer this to VoiceOfReason, he seems to know the etymology angle.

Edit: I think it's because they're two different words. "Apo-" means "away from," and "ptosis" is "falling." I think it's named because of the appearance of the apoptotic bodies separating from the cell, or "falling away from" the cell.

I was always on team "A-pop-toe-sis"

but what you said.... what you just said makes a lot of sense.

"It's pronounced Fronck-en-steen."

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

"It's pronounced Fronck-en-steen."

Ok Eye-gore

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Originally Posted by SpecterGT260

Ok Eye-gore

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Rule #47 of ManLaw (which my phone auto corrected the capital letters on its own.... awesome): never leave a man hanging on a movie reference

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Originally Posted by CaptainSSO

Two different things. It's a silent "P" in this case like "pterodactyl." A "p" in front of a "t" is not necessarily a silent "p," but in certain cases it is. Like optometry is not a silent "p." Anyway, I should defer this to VoiceOfReason, he seems to know the etymology angle.

Edit: I think it's because they're two different words. "Apo-" means "away from," and "ptosis" is "falling." I think it's named because of the appearance of the apoptotic bodies separating from the cell, or "falling away from" the cell.

That was why I used helicopter as an example. It's a combination of helico (spiral/helix) and pter (flying). The p is silent in the root word, but not in helicopter. So it would make sense to treat apoptosis in the same way.

Does it really matter? I mean most of them originate from Latin language..

And btw, I study in Saudi Arabia. You can imagine how messed up our doctor's pronunciations are. Still, doesn't really matter....

Originally Posted by ijn

THIS. Sole reason I didn't consider a career in pathology.

+1. Where the heck did this come from? It's like semi-french sounding rendition of centimeter. But if you want to sound more sophisticated, why not just go all the way and say centimetre (sont-ti-metr)?

Sont-a-meter has been used by at least 4 or 5 different docs in the past 2 years at my school. It makes me cringe a little more every time.

Some other gems I've heard are:

1) Solute pronounced like "salute"

2) Jugular pronounced like "jew-gyoo-lur" (this one drove me nuts)

3) arterioles pronounced like "arteriol-eez"

4) colloidal pronounced like "collide-oll"

5) Kwashiorkor pronounced like "ka-WAH-she-kor"

6) Trachea pronounced like "tra-KEY-yah" (another one that drove me nuts)

7) Cryptorchidism pronounced in 3 different ways -- 1. "crypto-chord-ism"; 2. "crypto-orc-ism"; and 3. "crypt-or-kiddy-ism"

There is a Dr. Novella that hosts a science based podcast that I like to listen to. He once revealed that sometimes he likes to mispronounce words on purpose just because people will think that his pronunciation is correct because he is a doctor.

Originally Posted by eimaise

6) Trachea pronounced like "tra-KEY-yah" (another one that drove me nuts)

That is the correct pronunciation using the Queens English. It is a perfectly acceptable alternative.

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

That is the correct pronunciation using the Queens English. It is a perfectly acceptable alternative.

'MURIKA!

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surgeons and their peroneal (pero-OH-neal vs. pero-NEE-yal). Okay personally I don't think it should be pronounced peroNEE-yal because of the perineal (peri-NEE-yal) artery being pronounced similarly to the peroNEEyal artery.

Cervical as /sɜrvaɪkəl/ (sir-vy-kuhl) is the only one that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread.

Originally Posted by Mithril

Cervical as /srvakl/ (sir-vy-kuhl) is the only one that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread.

How else do you say it?

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As /sɜrvɪkəl/ (sir-vik-uhl).

Originally Posted by Mithril

As /srvkl/ (sir-vik-uhl).

SIR-vik-uhl? Emphasis on first?

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Yes.

Originally Posted by Mithril

Yes.

Gotcha. This was the only way u was aware to say it

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One word. Dilatation.

Originally Posted by MiracleforMD

One word. Dilatation.

Again, not a mispronunciation but an acceptable alternative (and yes, from the Queen's English).

Dilatation is the original word, first seen in Chaucer and is from the Latin noun dilitatio (the verb: dilatare). The OED sticks with dilatation as the preferred form, but in practice either are acceptable.

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

Again, not a mispronunciation but an acceptable alternative (and yes, from the Queen's English).

Dilatation is the original word, first seen in Chaucer and is from the Latin noun dilitatio (the verb: dilatare). The OED sticks with dilatation as the preferred form, but in practice either are acceptable.

I actually think its a different word. A more active verb or some jazz

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I have long since forgotten how Angina is supposed to be pronounced. No one can agree! This has gotta be the most mispronounced word in health care.

Originally Posted by SpecterGT260

I actually think its a different word. A more active verb or some jazz

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The OED would disagree with you.

However, I agree that, in practice I would say, "he had an esophageal dilatation" or, "he had his esophagus dilated" but not "dilatated" although the latter is still correct.

dilate, dilatate
dilated, dilatated
dilation, dilatation

Originally Posted by Geebeejay

I have long since forgotten how Angina is supposed to be pronounced. No one can agree! This has gotta be the most mispronounced word in health care.

What is with the perseveration with "mispronunciation" of words when there really are two acceptable versions (as is the case with almost all of the claims of mispronounciations in this thread)?

Queen's English: An jeye nuh
"Murika": An jina

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

What is with the perseveration with "mispronunciation" of words when there really are two acceptable versions (as is the case with almost all of the claims of mispronounciations in this thread)?

Queen's English: An jeye nuh
"Murika": An jina

This makes more sense. Hopefully patients aren't too confused by their doctors using these different pronunciations.

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

The OED would disagree with you.

However, I agree that, in practice I would say, "he had an esophageal dilatation" or, "he had his esophagus dilated" but not "dilatated" although the latter is still correct.

dilate, dilatate
dilated, dilatated
dilation, dilatation

Go eat your crumpets old man. I'm sticking with the first usage

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Originally Posted by SpecterGT260

Go eat your crumpets old man. I'm sticking with the first usage

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Oh, no, you didn't.

Originally Posted by SpecterGT260

Go eat your crumpets old man. I'm sticking with the first usage

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Uhm...I've never been described as an old man or even a young man, for that matter. Strictly XX here.

But I will take some Marmite or Vegemite on my crumpet with a spot of Earl Grey.

Originally Posted by Geebeejay

This makes more sense. Hopefully patients aren't too confused by their doctors using these different pronunciations.

That would assume patients are even listening to what we say and not what their third cousin once removed or Google says.

Originally Posted by Bacchus

Oh, no, you didn't.

Snap snap snap.




Bored and stuck in the Tampa airport Marriott bc Dallas was scared of a little dusting. Sissies.

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Oh, no, you didn't.

Yeah!!!

Did you see that? He called me a man!!

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

Uhm...I've never been described as an old man or even a young man, for that matter. Strictly XX here.

But I will take some Marmite or Vegemite on my crumpet with a spot of Earl Grey.

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

Yeah!!!

Did you see that? He called me a man!!

Went with the law of the internet. My bad. Sorry. Still though..... 'MURIKA!

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Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

Yeah!!!

Did you see that? He called me a man!!

You should ban him.

Originally Posted by SpecterGT260

Snap snap snap.




Bored and stuck in the Tampa airport Marriott bc Dallas was scared of a little dusting. Sissies.

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Dallas has like 3 inches of snow. Hardly enough to close airports IMHO. Sissies is right.

And Texas acts like they're so great at everything.

Then again, we get 0.00000175 inches of rain here and people freak and drive 17 mph on the freeway.

Originally Posted by Bacchus

You should ban him.

Good idea. I haven't banned someone in a very long time. Good for him I'm on call and not feeling drunk with SDN power and bourbon.

Originally Posted by SpecterGT260

Went with the law of the internet. My bad. Sorry. Still though..... 'MURIKA!

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"Law of the internet" = posters are assumed to be male until otherwise proven? Interesting.

Interesting especially since my profile has my picture, my gender, I am listed as "Cougariffic", my sig file has my real name and I frequently talk about shoes, glitter and other such girl type stuff. Oh and then there's the fact that most people here know who I am. I am almost affronted that you have not spend such time figuring this out.

You Mr. Specter will be a horrible Doctor because of your lack of attention to small details.

Originally Posted by Bacchus

You should ban him.

Hush now. Bed time

Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

Dallas has like 3 inches of snow. Hardly enough to close airports IMHO. Sissies is right.

And Texas acts like they're so great at everything.

Then again, we get 0.00000175 inches of rain here and people freak and drive 17 mph on the freeway.

You in the Texas area? I spent just shy of 3 hours on one of your lovely tarmacs waiting to get de iced. While we waited the ice melted anyways and they still de iced us .

Luckily Tampa airport has a built in hotel. Long freaking day. I want a Mulligan on Christmas

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Originally Posted by Winged Scapula

Good idea. I haven't banned someone in a very long time. Good for him I'm on call and not feeling drunk with SDN power and bourbon.



"Law of the internet" = posters are assumed to be male until otherwise proven? Interesting.

Interesting especially since my profile has my picture, my gender, I am listed as "Cougariffic", my sig file has my real name and I frequently talk about shoes, glitter and other such girl type stuff. Oh and then there's the fact that most people here know who I am. I am almost affronted that you have not spend such time figuring this out.

You Mr. Specter will be a horrible Doctor because of your lack of attention to small details.

http://www.favething.com/uploads/ima...eb_funny-1.jpg

I am only aware of your activity in here when you tell us underlings to keep it in line but fair enough

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