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Those were direct attacks on people brave enough to post their scores. I hope you get banned. |
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I received the following scores(scaled score/percentile rank):
Verbal Ability 398/48 Biology 412/71 Reading Comprehension 412/69 Quantitative Ability 438/93 Chemistry 456/97 Composite 423/87 Conventions of Language 3 Problem Solving 3 Should I retake the PCAT if I am applying to Long Island University (Brooklyn Campus)? |
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Are the ranges in the 1st page composite scores??? I got an 80 and an 83 on quant and bio respectively, but a 95 comp. Should I be considering retaking????
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I would not retake with those scores. I would only retake with a 90+ composite if one of the individual scores was less than around 60, or 75 if the school requires you get a 75 in each section.
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Your scores are fine.
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Math owned me, unfortunately. Overall I think I did pretty well- I'm gonna retake it in January and will probably be better prepared. Still, I don't mind the scores at all.
Verbal Ability: 418/78 Biology: 441/94 Reading Comprehension: 422/82 Quantitative Ability: 396/47 (crap :[) Chemistry: 414/74 (could have been way better, I left like 5 blank and was kinda rushed because I didn't study enough) Composite: 418/82 Last edited by heavy87; 11-25-2007 at 02:04 PM. |
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So I took the PCAT for the first time in October, with only 2 months of organic chemistry and microbiology under my belt. After the test I felt very confident with everything except the math. I knew I really bombed it. I was disappointed when I opened my scores to find.....
Verbal 404 58% Biology 419 78% Reading 412 69% Quantitative 399 52% Chemistry 409 70% Composite 409 68% ughhhhh a frickin 68%?!?!?!?! I was expecting over 80%. So my plan is to retake it in January. I am only applying to the University of Kansas and so far I feel like I have a decent application, until those scores showed up! My overall GPA is a 3.42 (I failed my first 6 credits, bummer) and my science GPA is 3.82. Wondering what anyone's comments were......I just hope I make it to the interview because I think I will shine! I can't believe all these 90% I see.gosh! |
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Hey!..I just got back from the break and here are my scores...
Verbal 31 Bio 45 Reading 39 Quant 80 Chem 70 COMP 53 ![]() Writing: 3/3 I am very disappointed with my verbal, reading and bio scores; however, I know I can do a lot better in math and chem in January with more preperation. I am not an immigrant and english is my first language; however, I am not much of a reader. I used the 2007 Kaplan book to study for the October PCAT and I was in the middle of taking Orgo 1 and calc. I do not have Micro until next semester and I won't be taking A&P or any of those upper level bio courses since it is not required at my university for pre-pharmacy. I plan on using the Kaplan online course to help boost my mark up to a 70-80%tile. I also want to use another resource but I am not sure what I should use to increase my verbal, reading and bio scores. Any suggestions. I have a 3.94 math/science GPA and I want to get into Ferris State University. The average GPA here is 3.73 and a 86%tile on the pcat. I am just looking for any suggestions for increasing my percentile. Thank you.
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I know it's bad, but the composite isn't bad and my GPA is pretty high- I'm applying to UF and maybe a couple other schools (I don't think they take the PCAT though). Is that math score going to really hurt my chances, or is it something they might look over? I think I know what I messed up on, and if I'm right it has a lot to do with my precalc professor (I got a C in that class my first semester and an A in Calc the next, go figure). |
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ur scores seem fine for most schools but with UF its still a little iffy bc the avg is 86 or so but if everything else is fine like work exper. and gpa u have a great shot. i got a 444 in math or a 95. i think i learned alot from math bc i took cal 1, 2 and stat and the intro college algebra, trig. i think when u work ur way to the top with math it helps u more than when u jump directly to cal 1 and leave it at that.
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thanks for the well wishes........
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if you think im bad you should see what ben 1988 is writing too someone here http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=471922
like i said i never meant to hurt the feelings of applicants, i was one a year ago!!!
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Here are my stats
Pre-req GPA 3.97 Got my B.A from foreign country Hospital pharmacy volunteering Work and EC experience PCAT Verbal------398-48% Bio---------415-74% Reading----412-69% Math-------476-99% Chem-------418-79% Composite--424-88% Writing-----2.0/2.5 I can't believe what people are saying anymore. Most people say that I have enough stats, but I'm losing my confidence after I got placed on the waitlist from two schools. I'm not having as many calls for interviews as I expected even though I completed my application in early september. I have three interview invitations so far. I do not have good interview skills because I get extremely nervous during the interview... Is it ruining everything? I really don't know.. for the PCAT! --> this is killing me!!! Do you guys think it looks bad since I have rather low scores in verbal and reading and mediocre scores in Chem and Bio.. and super high in Math? oh.. I did really poorly in writing as well. Should I retake PCAT? (I don't think I can do any better in verbal and reading because English is my 2nd language. I might be able to improve bio and chem.) or get a tutor to improve my interview skills? How can I make myself a more competitive candidate? Should I try the Pharm Tech certificate? PLEASE HELP!!!! I'm so DESPERATE and MISERABLE!!! |
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#115 |
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Could you tape yourself practicing interviewing with a friend or family member? Get as many people to help you practice interviewing as you can - then you might burn off some of those nerves.
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Yes.. I made a script for the interview questions, practiced many times, and recorded my performance. However, I never practiced in front of anyone coz I was embarassed.. I should do that!! That could be a useful solution.
Last edited by crazyyyyy; 11-30-2007 at 09:15 AM. |
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Last year I scored a 59 composite score on the PCAT and had my scores sent to a few colleges. This year I improved my score to a 82 overall with a 4.0/3.0 in Conventions of Language/Problem Solving. Will the schools I apply to again this year still consider my 59, or am I starting out "fresh". I know they're supposed to take the high score, but a 23 point change is huge. I'm a little worried they might see it as a fluke.
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I took the PCAT for the first time in OCT as stated in my previous post. I did not ask for an accommodation, because I (1) Wanted to see how I could do on my own and (2) thought that if I asked for one that the Ad. Coms. would look unfavorably at my application. So after taking it and scoring 98 in bio and 94 in chem, I was devastated with a 39 in reading comp. Note that I received in the 70's on the Verbal and a 4/3 on the writing, so I obviously can comprehend and communicate effectively, it just takes me more time to read the information. This is why I learn a lot from lecture, because I have no problem with my hearing or cognition. English is my first language and I have no problem working extra hard, as I have through all of my life. Having such a short time limitation that many people without Amblyopia have trouble finishing, is the reason why I believe I did so poorly. By the time I received my scores, it was already too late to request an accommodation for the Jan PCAT! Do I think that Harcourt should approve the accommodation request? YES Will I request one if I have to take the PCAT again? YES What are your experiences?? If there is anyone who has requested an accommodation for any reason and is willing to share their story, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks, Mike Last edited by mikeaparker; 12-02-2007 at 08:12 AM. |
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How did you manage to read and answer all the questions for chem and bio then? I found I was much more pressed for time on those sections - I couldn't even finish the chem the first time, and I had time for like a 20 minute nap after reading comp.
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Maybe you don't have a severe case of Amblyopia? I just went to the O.D. and he said that my Rx needs updating as well, and he referred me to a specialist. The print is too small for me and that also causes problems. You have to understand that with reading comprehension the information is new, I have to read it more than once. I also have to reread lines, becuase I skip some by accident and it wouldn't make sense. With the Bio & Chem, my reading was done before the test, on my own time, where I could devote more time to comprehension. During the exam for Bio & Chem, once again, it is only application of the knowlege I already have. Mike |
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Sounds like a difficult situation. Best of luck!
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Verbal 90 Biology 87 Reading 99 Quantitative 91 Chemistry 92 Composite 99 I am still so excited. I didn't study, didn't have time. I work full time and had three lab classes this semester. First time to take it and I figured I would take it again if I needed to. I was worried about the math part since my last math class was 7 years ago.Like so many people, I tend to focus on what it is I DON'T have that pharmacy schools want. That would be lack of extended experience working in a pharmacy. I volunteer at a local mission in their pharmacy, but that tends to be when I can afford the time. Good luck to everyone!
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#125 |
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UPDATE: I added a short section to the first post about how the PCAT is scored to clear up the questions about the scaled scores and how those lead to percentile scores. That seems to be a common question after every exam.
Let me know if the explanation isn't clear anywhere and I'll try to make modifications: Addendum: There have been many questions on SDN inquiring about the nature of the three-digit scaled scores one finds on the score report and how that score is used to get one's percentile score. To be honest, nobody outside of relations with Harcourt understands the system or even the true number of questions needed to earn a 90th percentile or any other score. Perhaps this is best explained in a hypothetical situation. After each exam, Harcourt examines the pool of test takers and derives a scale that corresponds to a scaled score. One earns a certain scaled score based on the number of correct questions answered. This scale is different between examinations and between sections to account for the slight differences in difficulty across test dates and perhaps even test forms within the same testing date. Te scaled score one gets corresponds to the aforementioned 1998-2003 pool. Based on past research on this forum, it seems that a 400 in any section will result in a 50th percentile and a 430 is "worth" the same for every testing date for example. Therefore, one is being compared to that standard testing group but any changes in the exam now versus back then is accounted for through the derivation of a new scale that accounts for that. It's just that the number of correct questions needed to earn a certain scaled score fluctuates and is determined for each PCAT administration separately. So, nobody really knows how many questions need to be answered correctly in order to be in a certain percentile. |
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How exactly do you read the PCAT scores. I took it for the 1st time in October of 2007 and got my results but now I'm not sure how to read them. Can anyone help me here? I'd really appreciate some help. Thanks so much.
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HI everyone,
So, I am a biochemistry major right now and I was wondering that if I work for a year after I graduate and then apply to pharmacy schools to get my PhD in pharmacy, what kind of things would I have to submit to them other than my college transcript? and also can I do that, would they also accept me in the transfer student program and would I be able to graduate in 3 to 4 years depending on the school? Ugh...there's so much pressure ughhhhhh....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Also, how should I study for the PCATs since I didn't do so well. I got a 50% composite score and the rest are like in the 60s and 70s. Any suggestions??? thanks much... |
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Most pharmacy schools have set curricula that doesn't allow you to transfer in past the first year. Once you start pharmacy school, you start at the first year called P1 and you have to progress through all four years of the curriculum (3 if at a 3-year school, 5+ if you get a joint degree like MBA). By the way, the degree earned from pharmacy school is a PharmD, not PhD
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I was just curious how those of you with decently high scores studied for the PCAT? In other words, what was your strategy? Did anyone of you take the Kaplan course for the PCAT?
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I have just read through this forum and I still have some lingering questions.
This question is specific to the Creighton distance program. Should I even consider applying? Stats: Chem I- B Chem II-A O-chem I-C(summer course, need to retake) O-chem I Lab-A O-Chem II-have yet to take Anatomy-A Bio w/lab-A Zoology w/lab-A Calc-have yet to take Overall GPA: 3.72 I have a BS in Dietetics. 2 courses were taken at community colleges. No pharmacy experience(applied at walgreens) I ask this because a distance program is my only feasible option at this point. I may need to wait a few years to apply otherwise. Also, anyone know if there is another school possibly creating another distance pathway? |
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I know, I was too late on the January date, so I will have to wait until June.
Ultimately, I would like to go to OU because I am currently an Oklahoma resident and their avg. pcat is in the 70's. The reason for wanting distance is my husband is active duty army (just got married) and will be for another 6 yrs. We live on-post and the closest school is Austin, about 70 miles away. I might have to look into it though. BTW, I can get texas residency if I decide to apply in texas. I want to have the Pharm. D. complete within these 6 yrs. Okay, I just ran the numbers and for fall '09 admissions, I would be applying with these stats: (specific to Creighton) Pre-req math/science: 3.59 Culmulative GPA: 3.72 The avg. PCAT was 89. What are your opinions, do I need to score at least in the 80's to remain a competitive applicant? I am just trying to get a feel for how much prep work should be done. Thank you for any comments. Last edited by tellsarah; 02-12-2008 at 11:43 AM. |
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Anyone here get a bad score the first time they took the PCAT then greatly improve it the second time? If so how did you do it? I got a 60 composite the first time I took it and was wondering just how much it was possible to raise it (realistically) even with a lot of studying.
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My opthamologist really helped my by suggesting that on a regular basis, I look up at on object far away (I use the upper corner of the room) to rest my ocular muscles. I practiced this taking my practice exams. I thought it would slow me down, but it didn't. Every few minutes, will thinking about an answer, I would look at that corner to allow recovery time. Also, when I was done with a section- I would look at that corner until it was time to start the next section. Worked like a charm and I use the same concept in my day to day life. Good luck- it can be done, with a little practice and patience |
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Yes the stats are specific to the distance program
BTW what is the personality assessment? |
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I had surgery at the age of three, and also did a lot of therapy when I was young. I had to wear an eye patch (arrrrggggg!) which forced me to use the weak eye. Oddly enough, my wandering eye is my stronger eye- which is backwards from most afflicted with Amblyopia. They also made me do a lot of word finds as a child. I am not sure if this helped or not. When you have severe Amblyopia you can only use one eye at a time- therefore you do not have depth perception (and no, people don't look like paper dolls- if you turn sideways I can still se you!!!!!!- someone actually asked me that once- duh!). I always wondered as a kid what the big deal was with the 3-D movies (with the glasses that are red on one side and green on the other) because it doesn't work if you can't use both eyes. Because you only use one eye, your eyes get tired twice as fast. Sometimes, I will cover one eye and read a paragraph with that eye and then cover the other and read the next paragraph- effectively resting one while using the other. Commonly if I get tired, my brain will start to switch back and forth between the two eyes, causing everything in my field of vision to shift- which is really annoying! Anyway, I don't want to hijack the thread. But I would recommend some vision therapy and do more pleasure reading which will strengthen your eyes. I wish you the best of luck fellow cyclops! Last edited by Alby; 02-15-2008 at 09:05 AM. |
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I'm not a computer expert so I have no idea why we have this problem. 1,500 have downloaded it since I posted it months ago so I figure that our problem should be transient. Let me know if you have more difficulties and I can e-mail it to you. |
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I am really debating whether I should retake the PCAT or not. The reason being that this was my first time taking and I took it just to "test out the water" so to speak so I didn't study much. I only studied about 4 hours a week for 3-4 weeks before taking the PCAT since I was over stressed from the previous semester and just wanted to enjoy my winter break. I took the test with the mentality that I'll just take the test to see how it is and retake it in the summer again. However, I was shocked and overjoyed that I got a 88 composite, I was expecting something around 60-70. Here's how it broke down:
Verbal: 412, 71 Biology: 441, 94 Reading: 424, 84 Quantitative: 408, 67 Chemistry: 436, 92 Composite, 424, 88 Writing 4.0 & 4.5 GPA: 3.9 Science: 3.9 Top Choice: Maryland I feel that if I really studied for this test I could get a better score, but that means I have to make time for studying and pay for the test again when I do not have to. I am so conflicted. |
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Verbal Ability --> 96%
Biology -->78% Reading ---> 71% Quantitative ---> 55% Chemistry ---> 82% Composite ---> 84% Writing 3 --> 3 I took the PCAT without taking Bio II or really knowing any of the Calculus on the quantitative. I only had a week to review for everything too because of short notice. I think if I take the PCAT again I will do better, but how do these scores look right now? Does my large verbal ability percentage artificially boost my composite score? |
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Well I just got my results and I'm not thrilled. I'm thinking I'll definitely have to retake but can someone please give me their opinion:
Verbal 75 Biology 87 Reading 71 Quantitative 79 Chem 69 ![]() Comp ---> 80 Writing 3/3 The chem score is real bad. That's what I'm most worried about. |
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Your GPA is stellar and a 67 in one section isn't too big of a blemish to cancel out said high GPA. The overall 88 is probably good enough. Quote:
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UT Austin. I have a overall GPA 3.91, science GPA 3.8.
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