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medsRus · 10-02-2009, 11:00 AM

Ucsf

PhakeDoc · 10-02-2009, 11:49 AM

You got an email from them? Sorry to hear that.

lanzarlaluna · 10-02-2009, 05:06 PM

Hopkins. I'm way under qualified for them, but I just threw my application out there to see what would happen, and, well, the expected happened!

Adalimumab · 10-02-2009, 07:01 PM

Hopkins and University of Maryland.

fowleri · 10-06-2009, 03:45 PM

Yale

bblue · 10-10-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fowleri

Yale

University of Texas Southwestern baby! Yeaaah!!! And I got waitlisted at stupid Colorado. I've gotten interviews at schools with much better reputations so I don't know what they base their criteria on, but....they're both stupid and I hate them lol

medsRus · 10-11-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bblue

University of Texas Southwestern baby! Yeaaah!!! And I got waitlisted at stupid Colorado. I've gotten interviews at schools with much better reputations so I don't know what they base their criteria on, but....they're both stupid and I hate them lol

Then why did you apply to those programs?

bblue · 10-11-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by medsRus

Then why did you apply to those programs?

That is what I like to call 'a joke'

Adalimumab · 10-11-2009, 06:32 PM

Yale

PhakeDoc · 10-11-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by medsRus

Then why did you apply to those programs?

Conventional wisdom states to apply to a variety of programs, from dream programs downwards...

medsRus · 10-12-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

Conventional wisdom states to apply to a variety of programs, from dream programs downwards...

Apply where you would go.

PAN627 · 10-13-2009, 10:01 AM

Yale, Uconn, U Roch

Adalimumab · 10-13-2009, 10:11 AM

Uni of Wisconsin

Neurologee · 10-13-2009, 01:25 PM

This thread is hilarious

Good to see everyone is keeping their sense of humor about the process ... Remember, in the end, everyone (regardless of pedigree) will agree on one thing -- your success is waaayyy more about what you put into it than your location

The "best" program in the country can't magically dump the info into your head ...

bblue · 10-13-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by medsRus

Apply where you would go.

I'm not sure if you understand this, but it WAS A JOKE. Jooke. You know 'funny haha'? I would have loved to have gone to UT Southwestern, and even Colorado, but they didn't accept me, so I'm making light of it.

bblue · 10-13-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

Conventional wisdom states to apply to a variety of programs, from dream programs downwards...

Exactly! I applied many places I didn't expect to get into, but you never know. For instance, I just got an interview at Duke! I'd never have dreamed that they'd even look at my application..

PhakeDoc · 10-15-2009, 07:23 PM

My first rejection happened to be for a prelim spot at Kaiser Permanente in Los Angeles (to go along with my UCLA neuro app). You're kidding me, right?

fowleri · 10-15-2009, 10:18 PM

I got the same rejection today! Prelim Kaiser Permanente in LA!

Analemma · 10-16-2009, 12:21 PM

I want to join the Prelim Kaiser Permanente rejection club. I received my email yesterday as well.

PhakeDoc · 10-16-2009, 03:36 PM

I'm curious if both of you were not located in Cali, i.e., are they favoring their "own". I'd like to think (but obviously I'm wrong) that if I could get interviews at both the Harvard programs, Hopkins, and Mayo, that KP would be attainable. Oh well, that's what I get for thinking!

**eforest** · 10-16-2009, 03:58 PM

The thing with prelim programs is that you're competing with those in Anesthesia, Derm (I think), Radiology, and Radiation Oncology. They tend to have really strong applications. So, not only do California prelim programs favor their own, they may favor budding dermatologists with 270+ board scores and AOA. (OK, I'm exaggerating, but you get the point)

Analemma · 10-16-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

I'm curious if both of you were not located in Cali, i.e., are they favoring their "own". I'd like to think (but obviously I'm wrong) that if I could get interviews at both the Harvard programs, Hopkins, and Mayo, that KP would be attainable. Oh well, that's what I get for thinking!

To further muddy the waters, I am not located in Cali, but my application is not the strongest. I also do not use Kaiser Permanente for my health coverage. Should have applied to Blue Cross Blue Shield Prelim in LA.

PhakeDoc · 10-16-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eforest

they may favor budding dermatologists with 270+ board scores and AOA. (OK, I'm exaggerating, but you get the point)

DOH, I totally forgot about the RO*D to success specialties and their stratospheric numbers! And no, unfortunately, I can't compete with them on that. Oh well, let them eat cake I say!

PhakeDoc · 10-18-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Analemma

To further muddy the waters, I am not located in Cali, but my application is not the strongest. I also do not use Kaiser Permanente for my health coverage. Should have applied to Blue Cross Blue Shield Prelim in LA.

But you got a UCLA neuro interview, right? I wish they'd tell me one way or the other already!

PhakeDoc · 10-18-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by medsRus

Ucsf

By the way, how come you aren't participating in the "official interview" thread?

bblue · 10-19-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

By the way, how come you aren't participating in the "official interview" thread?

Agreed. I'm going to update mine right after this. But I'd like to join the 'kaiser permanente prelim rejection group'! Also U. of Michigan. I can't figure out what schools base their criteria off of. I've gotten some interviews at great, competititve programs, and rejected from some good, semi-competitive programs. WTF?

ReformNot · 10-19-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bblue

Agreed. I'm going to update mine right after this. But I'd like to join the 'kaiser permanente prelim rejection group'! Also U. of Michigan. I can't figure out what schools base their criteria off of. I've gotten some interviews at great, competititve programs, and rejected from some good, semi-competitive programs. WTF?

Isn't it obvious that they know you are using them as backups?

bblue · 10-19-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformNot

Isn't it obvious that they know you are using them as backups?

How would they know that when I don't even know that yet?

ReformNot · 10-19-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bblue

How would they know that when I don't even know that yet?

They know who they can get based on past experience. They are not going to waste their resources on someone who is obviously out of their league. That's just a guess.

Just like med schools, I know people who have been accepted by the *top-10* schools but were not even offered an interview at some state schools.

bblue · 10-19-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ReformNot

They know who they can get based on past experience. They are not going to waste their resources on someone who is obviously out of their league. That's just a guess.

Just like med schools, I know people who have been accepted by the *top-10* schools but were not even offered an interview at some state schools.

Trust me, I'm not out of anyone's league...And Michigan is at the same level of many schools I've gotten interviews at.
BTW - let's add UC Irvine to this list! Woohoo!!!

/

ReformNot · 10-19-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bblue

Trust me, I'm not out of anyone's league...And Michigan is at the same level of many schools I've gotten interviews at.
BTW - let's add UC Irvine to this list! Woohoo!!!

/

Michigan is a big name school. The department may not be as well known but they can definitely attract some highly qualified applicants. And anything in California is highly desirable. So if you are not an "outstanding" or "excellent" applicant from an average school or at least a "very good" applicant from a top school, be prepared to be rejected by these highly competitive places.

lanzarlaluna · 10-21-2009, 06:30 PM

Duke. Oh well. I hate Duke basketball anyway... I keed, I keed.

PhakeDoc · 10-27-2009, 01:07 PM

Warning: Bitterness alert.

I want to thank all the Derms, Ophthos, Rads, Rad Oncs, etc., applicants for making PGY-1 prelim applications difficult as hell for us "mere mortals" who don't have 270s on our boards and aren't top 5 in our class.

Add Kaiser Santa Clara to the rejection list. To add insult to injury, the residency program coordinator made several glaring grammatical errors in the email.

Amos - this is one of the plethora of reasons why I despise the whole prelim vs. categorical route.

bblue · 10-27-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

Warning: Bitterness alert.

I want to thank all the Derms, Ophthos, Rads, Rad Oncs, etc., applicants for making PGY-1 prelim applications difficult as hell for us "mere mortals" who don't have 270s on our boards and aren't top 5 in our class.

Add Kaiser Santa Clara to the rejection list. To add insult to injury, the residency program coordinator made several glaring grammatical errors in the email.

Amos - this is one of the plethora of reasons why I despise the whole prelim vs. categorical route.

I agree and would also like to add Kaiser Santa Clara to the list...

popula · 10-29-2009, 02:37 PM

I wonder how much is just straight up regional bias. I've been fortunate enough to receive interviews everywhere I've applied except for Case (mainly because I'm an idiot and thought I'd submitted ERAS to them and didn't -- I only submitted there maybe a week ago or so). I've mostly applied around the Midwest and got my last straggler (Northwestern) this week. I got a Michigan interview some time ago, and while I'd say my med school is pretty good, I wouldn't call it a "big name" and while I'm probably a fair candidate, I'm not the cat's ass either. So I wonder.

pmasque · 11-03-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by popula

and while I'm probably a fair candidate, I'm not the cat's ass either. So I wonder.

this is the best quote i have ever read

sorry for going off-topic.

PhakeDoc · 11-04-2009, 03:46 PM

Finally, I was allowed a Cali prelim interview..woo hoo!

T2 FLAIR · 11-04-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

Finally, I was allowed a Cali prelim interview..woo hoo!

Oooh, congrats! Which one? I'm waiting to hear from California Pacific and the Kaisers.

PhakeDoc · 11-04-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by T2 FLAIR

Oooh, congrats! Which one? I'm waiting to hear from California Pacific and the Kaisers.

Alameda County. Got rejected from all the Kaisers as per above. Don't tell me you are 250+ and AOA!

T2 FLAIR · 11-04-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

Alameda County. Got rejected from all the Kaisers as per above. Don't tell me you are 250+ and AOA!

If that's what I need for an invite, looks like I am destined for disappointment....

PhakeDoc · 11-08-2009, 07:12 PM

So is everyone assuming at this point that if you've not heard from a particular neuro program, it means you aren't getting an invite?

lanzarlaluna · 11-08-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

So is everyone assuming at this point that if you've not heard from a particular neuro program, it means you aren't getting an invite?

I don't think that is entirely the case. The MSPE just came out last week, and people inevitably cancel interviews as the season wears on. However, it would probably be safe to assume that you wouldn't be ranked very highly if you received an invite now, because you will have most likely received an invite off of some sort of wait list.

Analemma · 11-11-2009, 05:54 PM

To make sure not to leave me hanging or confused in any way, I received a rejection from UPenn.

PAN627 · 11-12-2009, 11:09 AM

rejections til this date:
1) Uconn
2)URoch
3)Upenn
4)Duke
5)Cornell
6)Yale

PhakeDoc · 11-14-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analemma

To make sure not to leave me hanging or confused in any way, I received a rejection from UPenn.

Add me to the list. Out of curiosity, have you also not taken Step 2 or will your scores also not be back by the time ROL are submitted?

PhakeDoc · 11-14-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PAN627

rejections til this date:

Sorry to hear that. From the interview thread, though, it seems like you did get a bunch of others. Out of curiosity, was your list based on just not hearing from those programs or actually receiving an email from them?

Good luck!

Rogue Synapse · 11-15-2009, 12:54 PM

I hadn't heard anything from Penn so I called them on Nov 10, and they said they wouldn't be offering any more interviews. I got the formal rejection email about 10 minutes after my phone call.

PhakeDoc · 11-15-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Synapse

I hadn't heard anything from Penn so I called them on Nov 10, and they said they wouldn't be offering any more interviews. I got the formal rejection email about 10 minutes after my phone call.

Their loss!

Analemma · 11-15-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhakeDoc

Add me to the list. Out of curiosity, have you also not taken Step 2 or will your scores also not be back by the time ROL are submitted?

I took Step 2 CK on Oct 21 but had not gotten my scores back before receiving the rejection email. I emailed them early in the selection process and they said it was not required to have Step 2 scores in to receive an interview if your Step 1 scores were good enough. I guess mine weren't good enough (along with the gestalt of my application materials).

Of note, I also took Step 2 CS on Oct 5, but won't hear back scores until like mid December.

10-02-2009, 11:00 AM	#1
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10-16-2009, 03:58 PM	#21
eforest Auxillary Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138 Blog Entries: 2	The thing with prelim programs is that you're competing with those in Anesthesia, Derm (I think), Radiology, and Radiation Oncology. They tend to have really strong applications. So, not only do California prelim programs favor their own, they may favor budding dermatologists with 270+ board scores and AOA. (OK, I'm exaggerating, but you get the point) __________________ http://bipolarinmedschool.blogspot.com/

10-27-2009, 01:07 PM	#33
PhakeDoc Medical Student Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 196	Warning: Bitterness alert. I want to thank all the Derms, Ophthos, Rads, Rad Oncs, etc., applicants for making PGY-1 prelim applications difficult as hell for us "mere mortals" who don't have 270s on our boards and aren't top 5 in our class. Add Kaiser Santa Clara to the rejection list. To add insult to injury, the residency program coordinator made several glaring grammatical errors in the email. Amos - this is one of the plethora of reasons why I despise the whole prelim vs. categorical route. Last edited by PhakeDoc; 10-27-2009 at 01:53 PM.

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Analemma Junior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	UPenn To make sure not to leave me hanging or confused in any way, I received a rejection from UPenn.

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10-02-2009, 11:49 AM	#2
PhakeDoc Medical Student Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 196	You got an email from them? Sorry to hear that.

10-02-2009, 05:06 PM	#3
lanzarlaluna Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 102	Hopkins. I'm way under qualified for them, but I just threw my application out there to see what would happen, and, well, the expected happened!

10-02-2009, 07:01 PM	#4
Adalimumab Junior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12	Hopkins and University of Maryland.

10-06-2009, 03:45 PM	#5
fowleri Junior Member Status: Post-Doc Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 16	Yale

10-11-2009, 06:32 PM	#9
Adalimumab Junior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12	Yale

10-13-2009, 10:01 AM	#12
PAN627 Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NY Posts: 68	Yale, Uconn, U Roch

10-13-2009, 10:11 AM	#13
Adalimumab Junior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12	Uni of Wisconsin

10-13-2009, 01:25 PM	#14
Neurologee Junior Member Status: Resident Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19	This thread is hilarious Good to see everyone is keeping their sense of humor about the process ... Remember, in the end, everyone (regardless of pedigree) will agree on one thing -- your success is waaayyy more about what you put into it than your location The "best" program in the country can't magically dump the info into your head ...

10-15-2009, 07:23 PM	#17
PhakeDoc Medical Student Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 196	My first rejection happened to be for a prelim spot at Kaiser Permanente in Los Angeles (to go along with my UCLA neuro app). You're kidding me, right?

10-15-2009, 10:18 PM	#18
fowleri Junior Member Status: Post-Doc Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 16	I got the same rejection today! Prelim Kaiser Permanente in LA!

10-16-2009, 12:21 PM	#19
Analemma Junior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	I want to join the Prelim Kaiser Permanente rejection club. I received my email yesterday as well.

10-16-2009, 03:36 PM	#20
PhakeDoc Medical Student Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 196	I'm curious if both of you were not located in Cali, i.e., are they favoring their "own". I'd like to think (but obviously I'm wrong) that if I could get interviews at both the Harvard programs, Hopkins, and Mayo, that KP would be attainable. Oh well, that's what I get for thinking!

10-21-2009, 06:30 PM	#32
lanzarlaluna Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 102	Duke. Oh well. I hate Duke basketball anyway... I keed, I keed.

10-29-2009, 02:37 PM	#35
popula New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	I wonder how much is just straight up regional bias. I've been fortunate enough to receive interviews everywhere I've applied except for Case (mainly because I'm an idiot and thought I'd submitted ERAS to them and didn't -- I only submitted there maybe a week ago or so). I've mostly applied around the Midwest and got my last straggler (Northwestern) this week. I got a Michigan interview some time ago, and while I'd say my med school is pretty good, I wouldn't call it a "big name" and while I'm probably a fair candidate, I'm not the cat's ass either. So I wonder.

11-04-2009, 03:46 PM	#37
PhakeDoc Medical Student Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 196	Finally, I was allowed a Cali prelim interview..woo hoo!

11-08-2009, 07:12 PM	#41
PhakeDoc Medical Student Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 196	So is everyone assuming at this point that if you've not heard from a particular neuro program, it means you aren't getting an invite?

11-12-2009, 11:09 AM	#44
PAN627 Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NY Posts: 68	rejections til this date: 1) Uconn 2)URoch 3)Upenn 4)Duke 5)Cornell 6)Yale

11-15-2009, 12:54 PM	#47
Rogue Synapse The Dude Has Got No Mercy Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 545	I hadn't heard anything from Penn so I called them on Nov 10, and they said they wouldn't be offering any more interviews. I got the formal rejection email about 10 minutes after my phone call.

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