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I've already taken the AAMC FLs, are there other practice tests you recommend? Both Gold Standard and Berkeley Review offer solid practice tests. GS FLs are a great value since you can typically get all 10 GS FLs for around $100. The caveat for Gold Standard is that you should expect your score to be roughly 2 points lower than normal. Berkeley Review has better FLs, but they're more expensive and the archaic ordering system means you run the risk of not having your practice tests when you need them due to the 45 day access limit. Still, if you order your test a couple weeks before you need them, BR is a good option if you're willing to pay more. Unfortunately, neither test is great in verbal, though BR is decent.
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Are all the AAMC's and 3 TBR CBT's enough FL's for me to prepare? Or should I get 5 TBR CBT's instead of 3 ? I'm asking this because 2 extra FL's means, one day taking the FL, and two days reviewing it...which adds up to 6 days. I just thought that instead of taking 5 TBR CBT's I can just go with 3 TBR CBT's and do "hat-trick" or review my weak areas in that 6 day period. So do you think I should choose AAMC + 3 TBR's or AAMC + 5 TBR's? |
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TBR Orgo I + II, Physics I + II, and Gen Chem I + II EK Bio + 1001 Bio Questions I chose EK Bio because TBR seems to be too detailed TPR Hyperlearning Science Workbook TPR Hyperlearning Verbal Workbook EK Verbal 101 Passages AAMC 3-10 I also have Kaplan FL 1-11 and all the topical exams that go with it --- would you say that I should forget all the KAPLAN material and go with TBR exams and GS exams instead with 4 months of prep time? And given the above list of materials that I have, would you say that for the four months that I go with all 7 BR exams or 5 or 3 or what? I heard something that the last 2 aren't very representative or something, but that's just anecdotal. Finally, in case the first MCAT attempt (in 4 months) doesn't go well, I am going to continue studying right after that (i'll take a break of a week or two before continuing) --- at that point should I just pick up the GS exams and go through that until the 2nd attempt? Do you think that if I go through the material I already have that I can get a 35+ if I am diligent over the next couple of months? I scored well on the SAT (1450 - 760 verbal + 690 Math) though I have forgotten a lot of specifics for the MCAT (that's why there's review!), I have no job obligations (taking the semester off), and the only thing I will be doing is EMT training and working out. So I'm going to put my heart and soul into it. Much thanks, Mister T, Former Member of the A-Team Last edited by Mister T; 12-27-2009 at 06:54 AM. |
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MisterT: Since you have both Kaplan's and the AAMC's FLs, I suggest you stick with those without buying anymore. You should take Kaplan 1-6 and all the of AAMCs. The other Kaplan material you don't need.
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I actually had a question on the hat trick thing- obviously you split up PS and BS but from those topic list pdfs provided by aamc, each numbered point is a different topic? or is it the letters? alot of those points are way to specific to be connected to other points are they not?
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Re-read chapters and work through corresponding EK 1001 sections for the chapters you worked through. For instance, BR O-Chem chapter #1 goes over Organic Structure & Bonding; hence, complete the Molecular Structure in the EK 1001 O-Chem. The topics probably won’t match all the time, but go with the best fit. Also, only do every third problem/passage in the EK 1001s. From now on, this day’s work will be abbreviated: “Re-read chapters + EK 1001”
This means do the previous 5 chapters right? Does that take about the same time as review one chapter and do its corresponding questions? I'm trying to anticipate how much time I need to allot myself. |
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Where can I find the TPR hyperlearning Verbal workbook?
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Again, I am NOT making a schedule for full-time workers, I'm merely making another FAQ entry. The new QA won't be up for awhile.
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Sn2ed: I have attached my study log, it was created by another member for three months using partly your schedule and I modified it to start tomorrow and end for May 22nd, 2010 MCAT. The first 2 months are exactly as you have it I believe, but the rest is a mix of yours and mine. Since I am non-trad I wanted to extend my content review days to make it a near 5 month schedule (4.5 months). I am using 12 FL tests (all AAMC + 2 Kaplan (came with my books) + 1 EK and the AAMC MCAT practice book). I am using the BR Gen chem, Org chem, Phys, Ek Bio, Phys, Gen, Org, Verb, and all the 1001 series books (including verb 101). As you will see in the schedule I have scheduled in alot of review (EK series is in the middle/late middle of the schedule) and I do nearly all the 1001's...
I will get TPR verbal eventually as I will do 4 passages a day and willr un out of EK eventually... So if you could take a look at it and see if there are any major flaws please let me know... It is an intense schedule, but I do not burn out easily, I normally do 20+credits/semester + intern + part time job Spring semester will be 13credits + research + part time job + internship Research will be heavy in the beginning and light to minimal at the end of the semester. I understand your worry for us non trads and crazy people who overload every semester, but I have been doing this since my freshman year of HS, so I am used to near killing myself in my work/school loads. You have been a great help to others including myself as I have been following this thread since the beginning, your advice is like gold... I know my schedule doesnt follow your advice at all, but please just take a look at it and comment, I would really appreciate it. Any others please take a look as well....but remember it is really fine tuned to a longer stretch but still heavy review and for a non-trad. Thanks!!! |
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SD2ed, thanks for all the great input.
I've been following this thread as well and found it helpful even tho I don't have the time to execute it fully. I have to say I wish I had studied on my own rather than sticking with Kaplan and emphasized the practice problems more. O well, I can't turn back the clock. I'd like to know what you thought of Audio Osmosis. This is probably my most practical means for content review while I work my FT job, and then I'd follow it up with practice problems. I know you've repeatedly emphasized BR. I'll definitely follow your suggestions for Verbal since that's my weakest. Thanks! |
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SD2ed, first off, thanks for this great guide. It really helped me to plan out my schedule.
I was thinking of going the detailed route for biology using TPRH Biological Sciences Review for content and using TBR Biology for the passages. Do you think I should get EK BIO 1001 or TPRH Science Workbook or both for additional practice? I am aiming to follow the 4 month variation with about 1-2 additional weeks for more FL practice exams. Thanks for the help! Last edited by Bmed; 12-30-2009 at 10:02 AM. |
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I know this is a bit off topic, however, has anybody received shipments and/or delivery notifications from TBR for orders placed in early December? Personally it has been almost three weeks and I have yet to hear or receive any information. To add insult to injury, no one is answering the phones at their offices.
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Bmed: You should be okay. Fortunately, the TPRH SW includes a healthy number of passages and discretes (87 and 146 respectively). Definitely get both TPRH Verbal Workbook and EK 101. When going for 4 months, the lack of abundant verbal material is what hurts the most. eez: Taking AAMC #3-10 should be enough FL practice. When you get to that last month, your test taking skills should be sharp from all the practice passages you've worked on for months. That said, more FL practice wouldn't hurt as long as you plan accordingly. |
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Currently I have planned to use the following books for this four month schedule: -BR General Chemistry -BR Organic Chemistry -BR Physics -BR Biology -The Princeton Review Hyper Learning Biological Sciences Review -The Princeton Review Hyper Learning Science Workbook - EK 1001 series (physics, o-chem, gen-chem, bio) -BR Verbal -The Princeton Review Hyper Learning Verbal Workbook - EK Verbal 101 Could you possibly show me how to adjust the first 8 days of your schedule to make the best use of the books I'm using? In particular, what is the specific protocol to follow when replacing EK Biology with TPRH Biological Sciences Review, TBR Bio, TPRH SW? And does EK 1001 Bio just stay the same? Day 1: BR Physics Chapter #1 + 1/3 of the corresponding passages (1/3 of corresponding passages = 1/3 from now on) Day 2: BR Gen Chem Chapter #1 + 1/3 Day 3: BR O-Chem Chapter #1 + 1/3 Day 4: EK Biology Chapter #1 + the corresponding problems in chapter and chapter exam (both of these will be abbreviated by putting 30 Min) Day 5: BR Physics Chapter #2 + 1/3 Day 6: Re-read chapters and work through corresponding EK 1001 sections for the chapters you worked through. For instance, BR O-Chem chapter #1 goes over Organic Structure & Bonding; hence, complete the Molecular Structure in the EK 1001 O-Chem. The topics probably won’t match all the time, but go with the best fit. Also, only do every third problem/passage in the EK 1001s. From now on, this day’s work will be abbreviated: “Re-read chapters + EK 1001” Day 7: Break Day 8: Complete second 1/3 of BR passages for the previous 4 chapters. I’m going to shorten this to: “Complete second 1/3 of BR passages” Again, thank you so much for your help. Its been quite invaluable and I wish there was another way to express my gratitude. Last edited by Bmed; 12-31-2009 at 01:26 AM. |
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Thank you for posting this study schedule. I have a quick question. I inherited BR books and they're 2001 edition. Is it still okay to use these books or should I get new books instead?
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SN2ed,
After analyzing your schedule, I think I get the general premise --- you're focusing on cumulative review by constant repetition of the stuff from the beginning through the end. If I do the 3 month schedule, I noticed that for the supplemental problems (the EK 1001 stuff) that you seem to cover only about 333 problems for physics, gen. chem, and orgo respectively and then about 666 problems (THE DEVIL?!?!?!) from EK Bio 1001. My questions are, is there any reason why you're not having us do the rest of the problems? I mean the more problems the better right? Also, if I am not doing anything else in the spring (just focusing on MCAT), besides working out and an EMT class, can't I push myself a little harder than what you have each day and with all the breaks? I'm no superman I admit and I have average endurance/stamina, but the schedule seems kinda light --- is this me just underestimating your schedule? Also, if you could tell me, is **THIS** the schedule that you used for success? What did you do differently if at all, and I assume you did pretty damn well on this. My goal is to get over a 35 on this beast, and I'm confident in my reasoning abilities, so my only problem will be absorbing all the material to apply! Do you think that your schedule given will prep me well for that (I'm not saying if it will give me a 35+), or should I supplement more? Again, I have a completely free semester in the spring with no other obligations. Thanks, Mister T (Former Member of the A-Team) |
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I have read from the TPRH Biological sciences and I would say it's a good read. Easy to understand, BUT it has a lot of details so I plan on just really memorizing that **** a few days/weeks before the exam in case there are any bull**** trivia questions on the B.S. section. I'll be using the EK Bio book for my main conceptual understanding (though I understand the MCAT Biology section has become more detail oriented lately --- futhermuckin azsholes). My opinion on what you are planning on doing is that the EK 1001s in addition to the TPRH Science Workbook is going to be overkill. I mean if you want to know what I'm doing, I'm going to follow the 3 month plan (because I have nothing else to do no classes no work), and finish all that **** then. Because I am taking the exam in 4 months (though I will be using 3 month plan), I will use the last month to do a lot of additional FLs (8 out of the 10 from GS) and finish off any remaining problems that I did not do in the TPRH science workbook. Because the last month is about 30 days , doing an additional 10 tests will take about 30 days (1 day to take the exam, then 2 days to do review). Don't forget that during the review days that you also do, an additional couple of questions as shown below: Day 64: AAMC FL #3 Day 65: Review FL per guidelines + 1/3 Chapter 2 <----. ?s Day 66: Review FL + 1/3 Chapter 2 <--- ?s I honestly think, however, that you won't be able to get through the 1001s with all the material you have. But again, I'll tell you what my plan is. I am taking the exam April 23, and then once I am done with that, I will continue studying for the May 27th exam. Because the April 23 score comes out on May 24-25th, I can determine whether or not I will have to take the May 27th exam. But in any case, during that 5th month, I will just go over all the EK 1001s (because at this point I will have exhausted the TBR + TPR HL), and finish off the GSes, and do the first 7 Berkeley Review Tests. This is all "in theory" --- you know there's burn out to STRONGLY consider (it happened to me the first time I studied), but even if you fall behind, you'll know that you did a good 98% effort and after that there's not much else you can do. Last edited by Mister T; 01-01-2010 at 08:24 AM. |
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On second thought, after getting some advice from a friend, I might just go with the non-detailed approach with EK BIO and just use the TPRH Biological review as a complimentary source when I come across more unfamiliar topics.
To SN2ed: If I use EK BIO as my source for content review, do you think I should stick with the EK 1001 BIO as my primary book for problems like you state in your schedule? Or can I possibly substitute EK 1001 BIO for TBR BIO or TPRH SW? If so, which book do you think would be better for the job? I would like to practice problems that are going to be more representative of the MCAT. |
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Just wanted to let you know that I have officially started the schedule, and like I posted earlier it is the same as your schedule for the 1st 2 months, really its the same as your four month plan, but I tailored it to 4.5months by adding more content review using the EK series in addition later on to keep the content review fresh.
Hopefully I wont burn out but Im sure I'll be fine...I will post once in a while to let you know how its going.... one suggestion: (Im not sure if you mention it) but the EK Verbal book (not 101) has some pretty cool techniques in it that I found very useful (in addition to Vhishidas (sp?)) Thanks again for making this great schedule! |
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Well Ive only just started....and I did alot yesturday- The whole EK Verbal book is done (not 101) and I did Day 1 on the schedule....with all distractions removed prolly 6 hours? Today should be quicker, as it is Genchem....my worst subject is physics so I spend more time on it.
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Yeah Im a full time student, but off till end of January, so Im getting a good head start, and then end early May for my MCAT at the end of May. Im full time with a full time job but I only have 2 maybe 3 actual classes (Biochemistry II, Embryology, and maybe Microbiology) but I have 6 credits in research and an internship that I am nearly finished with, so I can easily manage the MCAT workload (well I hope so anyways) I dont burn out easy at all, as Im used to a ton of work, school, my kids, ect....
Ill let you guys know if it goes badly, but Im pretty sure Ill be fine, Im used to not having a social life, due to my kids and fiancee. |
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SN2ed...Thanks for the wonderful information and schedule! I have a question regarding verbal. I plan on taking the MCAT April 23 and will start TPR class on Jan 27th...I have EK 101 verbal and was wondering if I should start now with the verbal or wait until the class? Would it be bad to go ahead and start using the EK if I run out before the test? I plan on taking 10-15 practice tests.
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Going to make these responses quick when possible since there are tons of replies. Again, I will not answer questions unrelated to THIS schedule.
eez: BR is plenty. Bmed: You're over-thinking things. When it says EK Bio Chapter #1, work through TPRH Bio Chapter #1. Then, do 1/3 of BR passages that best correspond with the chapter with some TPRH mixed in. For instance, if the chapter is about DNA translation, transcript, etc, work on the BR passages about DNA. run463: No, get new books. Mister T: You shouldn't need to do more of the non-Bio EK 1001 books unless you're having problems with a particular topic. If you do have trouble, then you'll have plenty of EK 1001 questions to help fix it. You really shouldn't focus on the non-Bio EK 1001 since you'll be taking plenty of passages. This schedule is not as light as it looks if you're doing it right. That said, this schedule isn't something that will take 10+ hours everyday. However, there are plenty of days which will be more than 8 hours. No, this is not the exact schedule I used. Before I got my score, I spent quite a bit of time analyzing my past schedule and thinking up ways to improve it. The schedule I posted is this improved version. I think this schedule lays the groundwork for great scores, yet the actual execution, and ultimately your success, still rests solely on your shoulders. Bmed: DreamingPremed got it right. You can use EK Bio for your content review WITH BR passages. This combo is the preferred way for now. rsmithjr42089: Cool. Keep us posted. |
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Also, I wasn't sure on some other things in your schedule: 1) You say that you should do ideally 3-5 verbal passages a day/67 days (in the 3 month one). I understand that you want to combine the 101 EK Verbal + Princeton Review Verbal Workbook (which has about 73), so that only gives you about 2.6 passages a day. You also then say that you should ideally be doing 3 a day? 2) With regards to your post that answered a previous question from someone else: "For each BR chapter, there are problems assigned to that chapter. For instance, there's chapter 1 and afterwards, chapter 1's set of practice passages. Yes, 1/3 of the corresponding passages means you take every third passage. The other 1/3s are completed per the guide's timeline.", for others who are reading your schedule, you should probably elaborate on that in your first/second/third post. I don't think you elaborated on that in the schedule really. There are some other nuggets of advice/information that are not in the first three posts that you covered in more detail throughout the scattered posts in this long thread. Do you think you could add all the important ones to your sticky? I believe it would be beneficial for everyone. Also, it might be a good idea to delete all the irrelevant posts --- it makes finding the good information hard to find (not that I care, but for others that want to see where you're coming from it would help). 3) In one of the posts in this thread, you said that the day after you do say 3 verbal passages (18 minutes), it takes an hour to go over it. Does it really take that long? I feel like it could be done in 5-10 minutes. What is it it that I'm missing by cutting out so much time? 4) When I finish doing passages AND/OR tests, should/can I look to see what the answers are at least on the same day that I did them? Or should I just drop it completely, and save it for the next day. I feel tempted to look at the answer key at least immediately after finishing practice questions. Thanks again! Last edited by Mister T; 01-04-2010 at 08:01 PM. |
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1) Is 8 min/passage good for TBR sections (orgo,gchem,physics) and EK bio? my times are always between 7-9 min.
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1. Well, yes it would be ideal to take 3 passages or more per day, but as you pointed out that's not quite possible. At the time I didn't know exactly how many passages TPRH VW had. I'll update the first post to reflect this information. 2. I cleared it up a little more for the first day. I don't have moderator powers, so I can't delete posts. 3. Yes, your post test analysis should take quite awhile. For 3 verbal passages, it should take around 40-50 minutes. You may also want to keep a log for future reference. 4. I think waiting on seeing the answer key is better. eez: 2) Is it better to do 3 passages (for verbal) all at once and then review the answers or do 1 passage, review the answers, and do the 2nd one.. and so on?[/QUOTE] 1. My suggested times are in the first post. 2. Take all 3 passages at once. |
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If we have 3 sources for verbal so we can do 3 a day like EK verbal, TPRH, and Berkeley, would you recommend doing 1 passage from each to keep it diverse or going 3 passages in Berkeley until it's done-->TPRH-->EK in the order most people put them in? |
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You should do the TBR/TPR ones first, and then do the EK 101s at the end as they're more accurate. I'm probably going to mix in 3 EK 101s maybe once or two a week though for two reasons 1) if i fall behind schedule and 2) to feel more "calibrated" and not adjust too much to one book's style of testing and the flaws with that model. |
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Yea that's what I was thinking too... w/ these do we do every 1/3 passage or does it not matter?
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For physics and chemistry etc. you do every three because I think you get a blend of everything, from easy to difficult and from stuff at the beginning of the chapter to the end. Whereas doing passages 1-3 is going to be all the stuff at the beginning for instance (though TBR doesn't say to go in order either which I don't know hwy they did that if they could have just reordered everything to go in order). |
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JP2740: You do NOT do every 1/3 for verbal. Go through 3 passages in a row from one source. On the next, day use another source. Since you have BR, TPRH, and EK, try to rotate BR more frequently in the beginning so you finish it first.
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I have a question for you guys, I live in south cali, in san fernando valley area, there is Kaplan in encino and CSUN, do most people do KAPLAN for MCAT? or pearson? should I just buy the books and study on my own or pay the $1980 and go to the class?
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That's a six minute goal for completing the passage and questions. Check the first post for timing.
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I have a bunch of Kaplan materials, including the Verbal Reasoning book and FLs.
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From FAQ: Why is Kaplan's verbal bad? Kaplan is bad in verbal because it doesn't stress the same things as the actual MCAT. For the MCAT, the main idea and author's point of view/opinion are the keys to success. Conversely, Kaplan focuses more on the detail oriented questions which are easy to teach; the kind of questions which make you go back over the passage to find the minute detail being tested. On the MCAT, going back to the passages will kill your timing. Furthermore, you rarely receive such questions and when you do get them, they can typically be answered with the main idea or author's opinion. |
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Kaplan's FL #1-6 are solid in the sciences (tougher than normal, but the exorbitantly generous curve more than makes up for that), but Kaplan does not have any good verbal practice material.
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You don't advise using the same passages from EK 101 verbal for the 2nd time? When I took the mcat last year I did up to test 11 so I only have few "new" tests left. So I shouldn't re-do the passages I did last time right? I will be taking the exam again in June of this year so I will need plenty of passages to follow the 4-month study plan which I plan to begin end of this month. This time though I do have the BR and TPR verbal books for that extra help I need. Thanks!! |
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Hello everyone,
I am a new member & would like to thank everyone for the wonderful information. I am currently a junior & going to start my Spring semester. I work 30 hrs a week and take 20+ credits. Not because I'm in a pre-med frenzy, but because I have to work to pay for my school/car/ food ect.. (like many ppl here). I plan on taking my Mcat this summer (after reading the advice here) My question: I have NOT taken the MCAT, but have taken the Kaplan course last summer. I have all the books/ flashcards, and becuase I attended every class I qualify to retake the course again for FREE. Sn2ed & others , what would you do if you were in my shoes? Get EK/BR? Or stick with kaplan? Thank you |
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I've been following this thread as well and found it helpful even tho I don't have the time to execute it fully. I have to say I wish I had studied on my own rather than sticking with Kaplan and emphasized the practice problems more. O well, I can't turn back the clock.





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