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Originally Posted by zenman

I do advise my med director how to handle her bosses but she says she can't do anything illegal....

I didn't do anything "illegal" but I am a big fan of "do what works".
transfers taking too long due to a bunch of bs rn paperwork? easy. don't do it or do it later and fax it. no one really looks at rn severity scores anyway....
taking nurses off the floor to do call back when the waiting room is full and orders are sitting in the rack for > 30 min? don't do the call backs. take care of the pts who are here now instead of kissing the butts of the ones who were here yesterday....

Originally Posted by RDlv

We're cost effective.

Say that to yourself 500 times.

"NPs are a cost-effective solution to the health care crisis, providing equal if not better care than physicians."

^^^This is a quote out of my own mind, from having the sentiment drilled OVER and OVER and OVER into my ear over the last two years. I'm very curious what the google results would be for googling the whole phrase? Am I making this up?

EDIT: From the IOM report:

"Since nurse practitioners' education is supported by federal and state funding, we are underutilizing a valuable government investment. Moreover, nurse practitioner training is the fastest and least expensive way to address the primary care shortage. Between 3 and 12 nurse practitioners can be educated for the price of educating 1 physician, and more quickly."

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...=&sort=oldest&

Great, I'm better because I'm a welfare recipient. I'm a cheap date. Great way to boost pride in the profession, folks. Do I also start to look better after you have a six-pack in you?

Ohhhh...... I like you.

What this argument is going to come down to is the conclusion that those of us sorry sob's who chose medical school will simply have made a lesser investment than those who chose a shorter, cheaper, and / or more subsidized route. One of the fundamental tenets of all socialized pricing systems is quality degradation in response to price fixing....

Originally Posted by MOHS_01

Ohhhh...... I like you.

Haha good time to follow up...comments such as the ones posted on these threads (toned down a bit) that I posted for our required discussions (on-line FNP program here, lol) got me pulled into my professor's office and warned to "tone it down 100%". Supposedly I was making my fellow students uncomfortable...after meeting with the students at the end of the semester, and only getting the stink-eye from a couple but very collegial interactions with the rest, I have to wonder how much of the displeasure was instead arising from the (DNP-holding and advocating) professor.

Regardless, its over, and I am a new grad NP working on all my certifications (I'm going to take both FNP cert exams, I can't abide there being a cert for my field I did not take, even though having 2 certs for the same position is silly) and licensing paperwork. I have multiple job offers, including one I'm very excited about in a great clinic with docs (FM), specialists, and NPs in a very collegial environment, that will be a great learning environment for a rank noob such as myself.

Originally Posted by RDlv

Haha good time to follow up...comments such as the ones posted on these threads (toned down a bit) that I posted for our required discussions (on-line FNP program here, lol) got me pulled into my professor's office and warned to "tone it down 100%". Supposedly I was making my fellow students uncomfortable...after meeting with the students at the end of the semester, and only getting the stink-eye from a couple but very collegial interactions with the rest, I have to wonder how much of the displeasure was instead arising from the (DNP-holding and advocating) professor.

Regardless, its over, and I am a new grad NP working on all my certifications (I'm going to take both FNP cert exams, I can't abide there being a cert for my field I did not take, even though having 2 certs for the same position is silly) and licensing paperwork. I have multiple job offers, including one I'm very excited about in a great clinic with docs (FM), specialists, and NPs in a very collegial environment, that will be a great learning environment for a rank noob such as myself.

Well, I hope it's a good job and you learn a lot.

Well if you take it to extremes about a doctor and NP being equal. Let's just let all the doctors from Mexico come in and do the same job as NPs and pay them less.

I guarantee they will flood the market and will accept 1/4 the pay.