Medscape Salary Survey 2012: Radiology goes from $350k to $315k in 1 year

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Originally Posted by shark2000

You are BSing left and right.
STFU and go and write these BS is the family medicine forum and not here. You will get a lot of support there.
We have some more important things to discuss here.

That was pretty unnecessary and I think reflects a lot about yourself. MtHood made some good points. Anyone who has spent a few years in our health care system knows we need more good family doctors in this country as our system is incredibly fragmented.

Good luck in your career in medicine with the attitude you have towards your colleagues who chose a "lesser" specialty.

Originally Posted by naus

That was pretty unnecessary and I think reflects a lot about yourself. MtHood made some good points. Anyone who has spent a few years in our health care system knows we need more good family doctors in this country as our system is incredibly fragmented.

What good points did he make? His entire argument rests on a poor understanding of his own field. The rads forum is not the appropriate venue for this...remember radiologists are referral-based and these referrals often come from PCPs. It's his own colleagues in FM/IM/etc. who are the problem based on his argument. Although it would be pointless, he should raise these issues with them.

Originally Posted by naus

That was pretty unnecessary and I think reflects a lot about yourself. MtHood made some good points. Anyone who has spent a few years in our health care system knows we need more good family doctors in this country as our system is incredibly fragmented.

Good luck in your career in medicine with the attitude you have towards your colleagues who chose a "lesser" specialty.

1-In true life I always support family doctors and talk about how hard they job is. But if someone calls my specialty unnecessary, overpaid, redundant, .... I do not have any respect for him/her.

2- There is a big delusion among family doctors that they are over-worked and under-paid. This will not change as almost half of doctors are PCPs in this country and WE ARE DOOMED to accept it. They have a strong voice.

3-I do not see any good points in what MtHood says. His argument is why we get paid more than PCPs. You can continue it forever. We cover a family doctor big clinic. I get paid 4 bucks to read a chest X-ray and a family doctor gets 50 bucks just to say hello to the patient, order the chest X-ray and then fill some paper work. To me he is really over-paid. You do not understand what does it mean to be RESPONSIBLE for an entire image.

4- After interacting with family doctors as a part of my work, I have found a lot of them really cool great personalities. But there are a large number of them with inferiority complex and delusions of being under-paid,. ...

5- Your have a very false perception of radiology. I have done outpatient medicine as intern, I have done 30 hour ICU shifts in a busy hospital, . .. Clearly non of them is as difficult as radiology call. We have sometimes senior residents from other fields like PM&R, Family medicine, Neurology, Orthopedics, ... who rotate with us. All of them get surprised by the pace of our work. And FYI, the pace of work in university setting is almost half of what is in true life.

6- Family doctors in my neiborhood do not open their office before 9 and usually leave about 5-6 pm. Whenever I call them, they are "AT LUNCH" from 12-2 or they are on vacation. Dude, family doctors are overpaid.

Originally Posted by shark2000

6- Family doctors in my neiborhood do not open their office before 9 and usually leave about 5-6 pm. Whenever I call them, they are "AT LUNCH" from 12-2 or they are on vacation. Dude, family doctors are overpaid.

The guy who make $150k working 50 hrs a week is overpaid compared to the guy who makes $350k working 50 hrs a week and entirely dependent on referrals?

I don't think radiologists are overpaid, I think all doctors are underpaid, but you're pretty full of yourself.

Originally Posted by naus

The guy who make $150k working 50 hrs a week is overpaid compared to the guy who makes $350k working 50 hrs a week and entirely dependent on referrals?

Yes, when you factor in specialized knowledge, length of training, stress level, malpractice risk, etc. The people who don't get this should actually try to read about how the RVU system was developed instead of constantly BSing here. Basically a harvard economist was hired by the govt to find out how doctors should be reimbursed and used said factors to develop the current reimbursement system. It's really not that complicated.

Originally Posted by Dumb

Yes, when you factor in specialized knowledge, length of training, stress level, malpractice risk, etc. The people who don't get this should actually try to read about how the RVU system was developed instead of constantly BSing here. Basically a harvard economist was hired by the govt to find out how doctors should be reimbursed and used said factors to develop the current reimbursement system. It's really not that complicated.

Ah Harvard economist now. So then you're totally game that these economists are recommending 50% cuts on some imaging studies.