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What are the top tier EM programs? (or where can I find this information?)
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thanks!
after spending at least a year rotating, interviewing and talking with people in the field i think we all know which programs in the country are the "big names"
Originally posted by bobdobaleena
i think many will agree that the following programs (in no particular order.....actually to make it fun, we'll go from west coast-->midwest-->east coast) are indeed the most well respected in the nation.
highland
usc
ucla-harbor
uc davis
denver
charity
hennepin
pitt
indiana
cinnci
cook
carolinas
bellvue
jacobi
Originally posted by bobdobaleena
i think that the whole "well, the RRC oversees all the programs, so they must be equal" argument that i heard from many program directors and i see used by posters on this site is total BS. i interviewed at several programs and rotated at one program where the overall clinical experience was obviously far inferior to many of the above programs i had the opportunity to check out. i didn't feel like i'd be ready to call myself an attending if i trained at one of these institutions.
Originally posted by roja
and then there is nothing to say for simply going to meetins and ending up drinking with important people (that maybe you don't even know are important. )
I think your list is more histoical than real and current. Much of the current EM leadership is found in programs not on your list.
Originally posted by OhioInTheWest
I definately want to train at one of the "top" programs. Call me shallow, but if I can match at the best, then I will damn well try to be there. But if I dont match that well, then I'll probably be back on this forum saying how all programs are equal. Funny how that happens.
Originally posted by OhioInTheWest
Well I for one do appreciate a good list of top programs. Yes a list like this only really tells us who bobdobaleena thinks are the best programs. But even as a lowly medical student, I've heard many of these programs mentioned over and over as being the best by attentings and residents at both my institution and others. I think I would question the motives of anyone who would argue that Cinci, Bellevue, Denver, Harbor, etc are NOT the leaders of EM.
Any reasonable list of this nature will definately take historical performance into account. A program that has produced leaders in the past will continue to in the future. I'm not saying that these other up-and-coming programs won't become great in the future, but there is no guarentee that they will either. This is my career, the rest of my scholarly life, I'm not taking any chances. I'd rather go somewhere that has proven itself already.
I definately want to train at one of the "top" programs. Call me shallow, but if I can match at the best, then I will damn well try to be there. But if I dont match that well, then I'll probably be back on this forum saying how all programs are equal. Funny how that happens.