Residency application questions

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Hello,
I had some general questions regarding residency applications. Do you have to put down all undergraduate and graduate programs you attended before medical school? Also will withdrawing from a masters program in biology many years before I started medical school affect my chances at matching into a competitive program? From what I understand matching into a competitive program is dependent on board scores, LOR's and clinical grades. Is this more or less accurate? Thanks in advance for any advice offered.

You are required to enter all of your undergraduate and graduate school work. I was in a similar situation, as I dropped out of a Masters program about 7yrs before my residency apps--no one said anything to me about it and i was able to match at a strong university program in general surgery. In addition to board scores, LORs, and clinical grades (esp. r/t your desired field), the interview also has some level of importance (varies from specialty to specialty). The Iserson text is pretty helpful with regard to residency applications. Best of luck.

If you got kicked out for plagarism or something along those lines it might make a difference. Otherwise I doubt it would.

what if you don't even list it.

I technically enrolled for a semester in grad school but never even went because i changed my mind. But i was officially registered that semester and had to write all sorts of letters to not get a semester of W's. so am i required to list that on my ERAS?

thanks for the input.

Originally Posted by ortholsu

what if you don't even list it.

I technically enrolled for a semester in grad school but never even went because i changed my mind. But i was officially registered that semester and had to write all sorts of letters to not get a semester of W's. so am i required to list that on my ERAS?

thanks for the input.

I don't see why it would be required to list that, but if you did something else productive during that time, I would think you would want to include it.

Do residency programs receive 3rd year shelf scores in all specialties, or just the one you are applying to, or do they just weigh the one you are applying to more heavily?

Originally Posted by zeloc

I don't see why it would be required to list that, but if you did something else productive during that time, I would think you would want to include it.

Do residency programs receive 3rd year shelf scores in all specialties, or just the one you are applying to, or do they just weigh the one you are applying to more heavily?

Residencies do not get shelf scores at all unless your Dean's Letter includes them or your entire grade is based on your score, both of which are unlikely. They will see your clerkship grades in toto as part of your transcript, not whatever breakdown (shelf vs. evals) that particular clerkship at your school grades you on. As an example, my school graded Medicine 30% on the shelf and the rest on various evals and an observed PE while Surgery was 65% shelf, 35% evals. Programs will see all of your grades but, if you're applying to Plastics, they may not particularly care what your Family Practice or Peds grades were.

BE (now PE)

Originally Posted by brooklyneric

Residencies do not get shelf scores at all unless your Dean's Letter includes them or your entire grade is based on your score, both of which are unlikely. They will see your clerkship grades in toto as part of your transcript, not whatever breakdown (shelf vs. evals) that particular clerkship at your school grades you on. As an example, my school graded Medicine 30% on the shelf and the rest on various evals and an observed PE while Surgery was 65% shelf, 35% evals. Programs will see all of your grades but, if you're applying to Plastics, they may not particularly care what your Family Practice or Peds grades were.

BE (now PE)

The packet that the school provides with its grade breakdowns MAY include the Shelf score (as it also may be included in the Dean's letter or someone else's letter) or may simply categorize the student in the Top 1/3 of exam takers, etc. There is no hard and fast rule about this - some schools provide specifics, others are rather vague about their scoring process.

Can somebody tell me what the timing of ERAS applications are? When do you fill out ERAS (that's the first step, right?) and at what point do they start to interview. Must all grades be in when you file ERAS, or do you have them trickle in even after the application is submitted?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that residency programs start to "download" ERAS at a particular time. Is this true, and when is this time?

Thanks
Judd