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Old 09-28-2006, 06:27 PM   #1
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I have been struggling to decide between the fields of Dentistry and Medicine. I was wondering if people could give me their honest opinions regarding the positives and negatives of each profession. I do not intend for this to be a bashing session of one profession or another, but instead a respectable debate regarding two great career options. I would appreciate all constructive feedback. Thank you very much.
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I have been struggling to decide between the fields of Dentistry and Medicine. I was wondering if people could give me their honest opinions regarding the positives and negatives of each profession. I do not intend for this to be a bashing session of one profession or another, but instead a respectable debate regarding two great career options. I would appreciate all constructive feedback. Thank you very much.
Medicine allows you to choose amongst a lot more orifices in which to specialize -- dentistry is limited to but one. Need I say more?
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I don't know how many here have considered dentistry. I hate the idea of looking in mouths all day.
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I never understood why dentists are not grouped in with medical doctors. Your mouth and teeth are just another part of the body. Oral surgeons spend just as much time going to school and doing training as other surgeons.

positive for dentist- you probably work a fairly consistent schedule, don't have to work weekends or holidays.

negative for dentist- you will rarely, if ever, get to save someone's life

positive for doctor- higher salaries are obtainable. get to use much more advanced technology. relocating is probably easier.

negative for doctor- i'm guessing higher insurance premiums, being sued a lot more, and irregular schedules.
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I am a second year med student and I chose medicine because I have absolutely no interest in being a dentist. I would actually be interested in being an oral surgeon but you must go through 4 years of dental school first and I don’t think it would interest me enough. My father in law is a dentist and he really doesn’t have much interest in medicine. So everyone has their own personal preferences. I think that if you are interested in medicine and dentistry, maybe oral surgery would be a good choice for you.

I think it really comes down to what you want to do on a daily basis – if you want to deal with the mouth – go with dentistry – but if you want to deal with other parts of the body – go with medicine.

The positives of dentistry are the negatives of medicine and vice-versa.

Medicine:
+ More earning potential in some specialties
+ Dealing with more than just the mouth

Dentistry
+ Done in 4 years (no residency) and start making $150k
+ Average dentist makes more than most primary care docs
+ Better lifestyle (easier hours) and little call
+ Less litigation
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Medicine allows you to choose amongst a lot more orifices in which to specialize -- dentistry is limited to but one. Need I say more?
Yes you need.
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Yes you need.
More is better. It's good to have options.
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More is better. It's good to have options.
Are you sure? Is it better to have more CANCER?
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Are you sure? Is it better to have more CANCER?
If you don't know the answer to that, you are more of a troll than I suspect...
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If you don't know the answer to that, you are more of a troll than I suspect...
You said and i quote "MORE IS BETTER" end quote. I merely stated a case where you are wrong. The question was rhetorical and if you didnt know that then i would consider taking an ESL class.
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You said and i quote "MORE IS BETTER" end quote. I merely stated a case where you are wrong. The question was rhetorical and if you didnt know that then i would consider taking an ESL class.
The good trolls don't get outed within their first couple of posts...
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The biggest benefit of being a dentist is that the hours are MUCH better and that the pay is still very good. And honestly, the work of a dentist can still be pretty meaningful... anyone who says otherwise obviously hasn't had dental problems before.




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Very few dentists are salaried employees so you have to handle the business end as well. Personally I have zero interest in the business part so dentistry isn't for me.

Also people hate seeing a dentist for the most part since they mostly do checkups and fillings, things that aren't urgent. Though sometimes you get that killer toothache and there is no one you would rather see. Usually when someone sees a doctor they feel like crap and are quite happy to see you.

Also if you really can't decide (and you absolutely hate yourself), Case Western offers the MD/DMD program a medical and dental degree at the same time.
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I have been struggling to decide between the fields of Dentistry and Medicine. I was wondering if people could give me their honest opinions regarding the positives and negatives of each profession. I do not intend for this to be a bashing session of one profession or another, but instead a respectable debate regarding two great career options. I would appreciate all constructive feedback. Thank you very much.
Although dentistry would probably offer a schedule more condusive to what I want, I hate dentists (in general not as individuals). I guess I've had one to many cavities filled (or 12)!!! I always leave their offices owing a lot of money and in pain.

Medicine on the other has usually made me feel better because I could actually understand what my problem was and how it was going to be fixed. All I had to pay was the $10 office copay and $8 Rx copay.

Pain + $$$$$$$$$$$(cost) = Dentistry = BAD
+ Little$ + Understanding = Medicine = GOOD
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hi,
I shadowed a dentist before deciding to go into medicine, so heres my experience with both fields

1st of all, the doctor who I shadow told me to go into dentistry if I wanted to go for the money, because even though it seems like you dont make as much as a dentist, you do when hours and trouble with patients are considered

2nd I like dentists, mine is nice and makes my teeth feel nice. I have friends in dentistry school and they are really cool people. However, BEING a dentist is so ungodly meticulous and routine I think I would kill myself if I had to do it for the rest of my life. Which I guess makes sense b/c as a career dentistry has the highest suicide rate.

So basically, I would suggest shadowing both careers and then deciding -you might like being a dentist.
and if you hate both, become an actuary
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so what if one wasn't good at the business aspect, would dentistry be less of a match?
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so what if one wasn't good at the business aspect, would dentistry be less of a match?
Aye, most dentists are in solo practices. Those that aren't are in a patnership with other dentist. So needless to say there isn't some big employer you can work for.

That said if being a dentist is something you really want to be, go for it. You will find a way to make it work. This should be more of an issue for people on the fence.
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negative for dentist- you will rarely, if ever, get to save someone's life
well, a positive thing for dentists is that you will rarely, if ever, see your patients die in front of you. That isn't true for a lot of doctors.
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well, a positive thing for dentists is that you will rarely, if ever, see your patients die in front of you. That isn't true for a lot of doctors.
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Has anyone else noticed that the OP is a pharmacy student now? lol
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has anyone else noticed that the op is a pharmacy student now? Lol
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"You're a rabid anti-dentite!!!"



Gets me every time.
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Both are serve a purpose in our society...

BUT

Dentistry = Boring, the world could do without it
Medicine = interesting, the world absolutely needs it.

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Both are serve a purpose in our society...

BUT

Dentistry = Boring, the world could do without it
Medicine = interesting, the world absolutely needs it.

IMO
Hmmm. It wasn't too long ago the Post had an article about a child who had an infected tooth, and because he was on Medicaid he didn't have any dental insurance. Hence, he ignored the toothache. Turns out it was a bad idea, as the bacteria got not only into his bloodstream, but also into his CSF. He died shortly thereafter from severe meningitis.

There have been a variety of studies showing that dental health is often very much reflective of a person's overall health. Saying "the world could do without it" is not true. If you don't have teeth, how would you recommend chewing your food?

I never had an interest in becoming a dentist, but I would never harass somebody who chose to go into the field, other than to joke about golfing on Fridays!
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Hmmm. It wasn't too long ago the Post had an article about a child who had an infected tooth, and because he was on Medicaid he didn't have any dental insurance. Hence, he ignored the toothache. Turns out it was a bad idea, as the bacteria got not only into his bloodstream, but also into his CSF. He died shortly thereafter from severe meningitis.

There have been a variety of studies showing that dental health is often very much reflective of a person's overall health. Saying "the world could do without it" is not true. If you don't have teeth, how would you recommend chewing your food?

I never had an interest in becoming a dentist, but I would never harass somebody who chose to go into the field, other than to joke about golfing on Fridays!
I think doctors could take over for dentists...but I dont think that the reverse is true.
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I think doctors could take over for dentists...
I don't.
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You could always get both degrees:

http://casemed.case.edu/admissions/p...?program_id=12
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Honestly dentistry just doesn't interest. Now..making their salary and working their hours certainly interests me...but I have no desire to do that type of work everyday for my career. Being a doc will give you less of a social life than most people and be harder in a lot of ways, but at the end of the days its important you have a job you're passionate about
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No offense to the dentists out there, but dentistry just seems something you would do if you want a stable 9-5 job with a good income. It doesn't seem stimulating, it's not something really intellectually exciting, etc. On the other hand, I wouldn't know! And what would we do without our dentists...

Medicine is a totally different field. There is a lot more time/education commitment, and a large variety of things to do with an MD. For me, medicine is appealing because it is a profession about people - caring for people - the beauty of the human body - biology - and also has an intellectually stimulating side - research, basic science, etc. Both professions have different challenges, require different types of thinking, and even different types of skills (eg. medicine - long hours, ability to deal with death, certain specialized critical thinking skills eg. evaluating multiple symptoms. dentistry - I heard that dentists need to be able to "read their patients' personalities" in order to know how to suggest certain treatments... etc.)

So basically, in my opinion, if you want a 9-5 job that will get you through life, do dentistry. If you really like medicine for its intellectual/service-oriented aspects, then do medicine. Otherwise, why waste the best years of your life studying to do something you're not passionate about? I don't think that I was ever able to really say why I wanted to do medicine until I actually tried it out - did international missions trips translating Spanish for doctors, shadowing doctors, and volunteering. That's what doing all the extracurricular stuff is about - probing what profession is really right for you, and finding what you're passionate about. If you can't decide, then try shadowing dentists, doctors, and volunteering. Why commit your life to something if you don't "really" know? Life shouldn't just be lived, also enjoyed.

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i disagree. medicine and dentistry are very similar in terms of education, training, and practice (obviously not scope of practice, but the way they practice). and to say that dentistry isn't a "profession about people" is quite biased. dentists, the good ones anyway, aren't just concerned with your oral health but your health in general. their just specialized much like how optho is specialized with eyes and cards is specialized with the heart.
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No offense to the dentists out there, but dentistry just seems something you would do if you want a stable 9-5 job with a good income. It doesn't seem stimulating, it's not something really intellectually exciting, etc. On the other hand, I wouldn't know! And what would we do without our dentists...

Medicine is a totally different field. There is a lot more time/education commitment, and a large variety of things to do with an MD. For me, medicine is appealing because it is a profession about people - caring for people - the beauty of the human body - biology - and also has an intellectually stimulating side - research, basic science, etc. Both professions have different challenges, require different types of thinking, and even different types of skills (eg. medicine - long hours, ability to deal with death, certain specialized critical thinking skills eg. evaluating multiple symptoms. dentistry - I heard that dentists need to be able to "read their patients' personalities" in order to know how to suggest certain treatments... etc.)

So basically, in my opinion, if you want a 9-5 job that will get you through life, do dentistry. If you really like medicine for its intellectual/service-oriented aspects, then do medicine. Otherwise, why waste the best years of your life studying to do something you're not passionate about? I don't think that I was ever able to really say why I wanted to do medicine until I actually tried it out - did international missions trips translating Spanish for doctors, shadowing doctors, and volunteering. That's what doing all the extracurricular stuff is about - probing what profession is really right for you, and finding what you're passionate about. If you can't decide, then try shadowing dentists, doctors, and volunteering. Why commit your life to something if you don't "really" know? Life shouldn't just be lived, also enjoyed.
You are so ill informed about dentistry it is disturbing.
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You are so ill informed about dentistry it is disturbing.

Psssst...unless you explain your accusation, it makes you look as ignorant and biased as the person you are attacking. Just a tip.
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You are so ill informed about dentistry it is disturbing.
I don't blame the poster; I don't really know much about dentistry either. But, I would say dentists are quite necessary in society.
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Dentistry is for failed pre-meds.











































































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Lol you're a pharm student deciding between dentistry and medicine

Anyway I think that you're looking in the wrong place. If you're posting on the pre-med forum of SDN then you're going to get bias information and vice-versa.

Dentist:
-Better hours.
-Less pressure on the job.
-Great pay.
-Competitive.


Doctors:
-More hours.
-Depending on your specialty more pressure.
-Better Pay
-More Competitive.


There's a trade off between pay and work load.





Go shadow some doctors and dentists
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Dentistry has a shorter training time, better hours than a lot of specialties, and good pay. If you are just interested in lifestyle dentistry is probably the better choice.

The various MD specialties often require significantly more training and can have more intense hours (which is a hit to the "lifestyle" factor). For me though the thought of hanging out in an ER for twelve hours taking on whatever comes through the door or starting a psychiatric practice where I help people work through their deepest issues on a daily basis sounds way more interesting than helping people keep their teeth healthy. If you would really rather be doing MD work, you might not be happy as a dentist. I don't think I would be.
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Dentists say the recent death of a Prince George's County boy who died from a tooth infection could have been prevented, but many parents don't know where or how to get help.

Many Maryland children don't get to go to the dentist, and for 12-year-old Deamonte Driver, missing visits became deadly last week when a tooth infection spread to his brain.

"The brain is not that far away from the teeth. You have teeth right here and brain right here. It's not that far for bacteria to spread to other tissues," said Dr. Norman Tinanoff, Univ. of Maryland Dental School.

A rare death that Dr. Tinanoff says could have been prevented, even though the family's Medicaid had lapsed.

"Most dentists who would see a child in pain would treat a child no matter whether they're reimbursed or not reimbursed," he said.

To find that dentist, most families go to the dental school or public clinics, but Tinanoff says in Maryland, there are too many patients and not enough denists, especially now that parents are hearing about Deamonte's death.

"My thoughts were to make sure she was always on time for appointments and that she would have her routine checkups so that nothing like that could happen to my child," said Martina Jones.

Tooth decay is the most common childhood disease nationwide and kids who don't have dental insurance are twice as likely to develop cavities, but they're far less likely to get the treatment they need. Doctors say that's in part because many parents don't know how to cut through the Medicaid red tape.

"There are huge barriers for poor parents. That's one thing we have to look at. We have to make it easier for them to access care," Dr. Tinanoff said.

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I have talked to a few doctors who have volunteered abroad and said the one thing they wish they could do is pull teeth. It changes someone's life instantly, so both professions are very important and I think significantly improve someone's life.
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I heard somewhere completely unverifiable that dentists have the highest suicide rate of any advanced profession. I don't know whether this is attributed to it attracting those prone to suicide, or making otherwise sane people suicidal after they begin training.

But here's something to help you ponder:
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"The brain is not that far away from the teeth. You have teeth right here and brain right here."
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I heard somewhere completely unverifiable that dentists have the highest suicide rate of any advanced profession.
The last figure I saw showed that medicine actually has more suicides than dentistry, which if you think about it actually makes more sense.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:06 AM   #46
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"The brain is not that far away from the teeth. You have teeth right here and brain right here. It's not that far for bacteria to spread to other tissues," said Dr. Norman Tinanoff, Univ. of Maryland Dental School.


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The last figure I saw showed that medicine actually has more suicides than dentistry, which if you think about it actually makes more sense.
i'm pretty sure there are also more doctors than dentists. per capita information is more telling.
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hey could someone tell me more about case western's md/dmd program? Is it more competitive than their md program alone or less competitive? What is their match list like? what % of their students are going to become general dentists after graduation(perhaps thats the program's intention but I am sure most students who do this program are still interested in medicine)?
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hey could someone tell me more about case western's md/dmd program? Is it more competitive than their md program alone or less competitive? What is their match list like? what % of their students are going to become general dentists after graduation(perhaps thats the program's intention but I am sure most students who do this program are still interested in medicine)?
I have no first hand knowledge but I would guess that the program would tend to funnel grads into ENT (ear, nose & throat) and then head & neck cancer fellowships to prepare physician/dentists who can treat the mouth and other anatomy of the head/neck in a holistic way.
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Very few dentists are salaried employees so you have to handle the business end as well. Personally I have zero interest in the business part so dentistry isn't for me.

Also people hate seeing a dentist for the most part since they mostly do checkups and fillings, things that aren't urgent. Though sometimes you get that killer toothache and there is no one you would rather see. Usually when someone sees a doctor they feel like crap and are quite happy to see you.

Also if you really can't decide (and you absolutely hate yourself), Case Western offers the MD/DMD program a medical and dental degree at the same time.
Interesting about the MD/DMD. Haven't read all the posts so hoping this hasn't already been discussed to ridiculous lengths, but what kind of a career would that set someone up for? I don't know much of anything about dentistry or oral surgery...would it somehow combine these two?
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Interesting about the MD/DMD. Haven't read all the posts so hoping this hasn't already been discussed to ridiculous lengths, but what kind of a career would that set someone up for? I don't know much of anything about dentistry or oral surgery...would it somehow combine these two?
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