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katz5001 · 09-10-2002, 09:25 PM

Which medicine programs out there have a good reputation but are not as demanding or malignant?

How is Wash U? Vandy? Cornell? Others?

task · 09-10-2002, 10:03 PM

I heard Vandy had q2 Unit call (but only did the Unit in 2 week blocks). This could be total crap.

Wash U & Cornell were two places I interviewed where things seemed fairly cush. U Chicago is another (the problem there is that there are only 20 people in each class, so if someone drops out or gets sick there are fewer people to spread the pain to

)

UCLA is another cush good name program. So is Stanford.

Never applied to U Wash, so I'm not sure.

katz5001 · 09-17-2002, 10:41 AM

What about bringham and women's>

task · 09-17-2002, 07:43 PM

The Brigham is another. Good training, I like the housestaff I met there. Known as a "gentleman's program" -- a kinder, gentler place so to speak.

pepsitwist · 09-17-2002, 10:21 PM

...I am not sure I would call UCLA "cush-" I have firsthand experience with its intern year, and it can be a bear at times- just wondering where you heard that it was "cush?"

Rigomortis · 09-17-2002, 11:17 PM

Yea, I'm hearing from a fellow that when you come out of there "prepared to take on anything". Hit hard especially during the 1st year....

katz5001 · 10-12-2002, 12:49 PM

how is u of chicago?

DocCallaway · 07-09-2009, 05:00 PM

7 year bump. Just for fun.

Keg · 07-09-2009, 06:05 PM

From what I understand, Vandy's not "cush" in any way - no night float, so you get 10+ months of overnight call... not sure if it's Q2, 3, or 4, but compared to Wash U's "Q8" call (if you can even call it that), it seems harsh.

sluggo · 07-09-2009, 06:58 PM

University of FLA-- soft as it gets

dragonfly99 · 07-09-2009, 10:18 PM

Baylor U Medical Center in Dallas, TX. I interviewed there a few years ago and the intern hardly had any patients, spent a lot of time studying for boards and told me they screened out all the patients with mental health issues out of the IM resident clinic.

gutonc · 07-10-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonfly99

Baylor U Medical Center in Dallas, TX. I interviewed there a few years ago and the intern hardly had any patients, spent a lot of time studying for boards and told me they screened out all the patients with mental health issues out of the IM resident clinic.

So I assume they had no clinic patients then? "Batsh!t crazy" is a default part of the problem list at our resident clinic.

docrocmayo · 07-10-2009, 05:34 PM

the beacon of hope for our health care system- the Mayo Clinic belongs somewhere in the list of cush programs as well. I just finished and when I swap notes with friends from other big programs, the three years I spent there have been easy

**efex101** · 07-11-2009, 09:02 AM

Yup, bc intern year is Q6 call....cush as hell.

dreamfox · 07-11-2009, 03:35 PM

i can assure you cornell isn't cush. not malignant, but definitely not cush.

manta · 07-14-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Keg

From what I understand, Vandy's not "cush" in any way - no night float, so you get 10+ months of overnight call... not sure if it's Q2, 3, or 4, but compared to Wash U's "Q8" call (if you can even call it that), it seems harsh.

Wash U call is q4 (q8 overnight), q3 overnight in the ICU. On firm, NF is on every night except Friday, when the entire on call team stays. On every other call day, one of the two interns per team alternate staying overnight - thus, q8 overnight.

So, I guess you can call it relatively "cush", but q8 was a little misleading.

drdavemd · 07-20-2009, 05:33 AM

Remember to talk to people at interviews. Q6 call at one program is not the same as Q6 at another. You may be surprised to see just how much difference there can be based on how much support you get from nurses and ED staff, how much does your upper level resident help you out, how easy and efficiently you can navigate the paperwork of admitting and discharging, what is your average patient census, is there coverage for you when you have to leave for clinic, etc.

tjj2010 · 07-23-2009, 05:57 PM

Anyone know how Medical College of Wisconsin is or UC Irvine? Also UCLA and anyone from St. Joe's Exempla in Denver. I hear CU denver works you hard.

radslooking · 07-23-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tjj2010

Anyone know how Medical College of Wisconsin is or UC Irvine? Also UCLA and anyone from St. Joe's Exempla in Denver. I hear CU denver works you hard.

UC Irvine didn't look terrible. Not the best program out there, though. Pretty mediocre from my estimation. CU Denver does work pretty hard, although can't say if they've made many changes since then. 8 months of call all three years.

indiamacbean · 07-26-2009, 10:25 AM

Ucsf

Bito42 · 08-24-2009, 10:34 PM

I'm in the application process, and have done a lot of talking to resident/interns about expectations. (I don't mind working hard--would prefer it most of the time! -- but like to know about differences between places).

SO, I've learned that some programs are 'top heavy' -- like columbia or hopkins, where intern year is really tough but then years 2 and 3 are lighter. The advantage is that u go into 2nd year feeling a lot more confident and 3rd year feeling very confident (from what i'm told).

Other programs may be more 'cush' the first year, but that may mean that things are more spready out over the 3 years (like ICU months, for example)

ResidentMD · 09-02-2009, 02:38 PM

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suubchb · 09-09-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamfox

i can assure you cornell isn't cush. not malignant, but definitely not cush.

true. all of the great programs in NYC not cush, given the volume of patients and also not enough nursing/IV team support (med students and residents often need to put in their own lines, etc).

in general, the big academic programs keep residents pretty busy because you're probably in a big city with big population plus getting local or regional transfers

09-10-2002, 09:25 PM	#1
katz5001 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 42	'Cush' medicine programs? SDN Members don't see this ad. Which medicine programs out there have a good reputation but are not as demanding or malignant? How is Wash U? Vandy? Cornell? Others? __________________ kevin katz

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katz5001 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 42	B & W What about bringham and women's>

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drdavemd Cardiology Fellow Status: Fellow Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 38	Remember to talk to people at interviews. Q6 call at one program is not the same as Q6 at another. You may be surprised to see just how much difference there can be based on how much support you get from nurses and ED staff, how much does your upper level resident help you out, how easy and efficiently you can navigate the paperwork of admitting and discharging, what is your average patient census, is there coverage for you when you have to leave for clinic, etc. __________________ David E. Winchester, M.D. Cardiology Fellow, University of Florida Editor in Chief, http://www.echojournal.com

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09-10-2002, 10:03 PM	#2
task Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 152	I heard Vandy had q2 Unit call (but only did the Unit in 2 week blocks). This could be total crap. Wash U & Cornell were two places I interviewed where things seemed fairly cush. U Chicago is another (the problem there is that there are only 20 people in each class, so if someone drops out or gets sick there are fewer people to spread the pain to ) UCLA is another cush good name program. So is Stanford. Never applied to U Wash, so I'm not sure.

09-17-2002, 07:43 PM	#4
task Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 152	The Brigham is another. Good training, I like the housestaff I met there. Known as a "gentleman's program" -- a kinder, gentler place so to speak.

09-17-2002, 10:21 PM	#5
pepsitwist Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9	...I am not sure I would call UCLA "cush-" I have firsthand experience with its intern year, and it can be a bear at times- just wondering where you heard that it was "cush?"

09-17-2002, 11:17 PM	#6
Rigomortis Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 102	Yea, I'm hearing from a fellow that when you come out of there "prepared to take on anything". Hit hard especially during the 1st year....

10-12-2002, 12:49 PM	#7
katz5001 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 42	how is u of chicago?

07-09-2009, 05:00 PM	#8
DocCallaway Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 187	7 year bump. Just for fun.

07-09-2009, 06:05 PM	#9
Keg WUMS IV Status: Medical Student MDApps: Profile 03842 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 449	From what I understand, Vandy's not "cush" in any way - no night float, so you get 10+ months of overnight call... not sure if it's Q2, 3, or 4, but compared to Wash U's "Q8" call (if you can even call it that), it seems harsh.

07-09-2009, 06:58 PM	#10
sluggo Member Status: Resident Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 50	University of FLA-- soft as it gets

07-09-2009, 10:18 PM	#11
dragonfly99 3K Member Status: Fellow Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,721	Baylor U Medical Center in Dallas, TX. I interviewed there a few years ago and the intern hardly had any patients, spent a lot of time studying for boards and told me they screened out all the patients with mental health issues out of the IM resident clinic.

07-10-2009, 05:34 PM	#13
docrocmayo Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 41	the beacon of hope for our health care system- the Mayo Clinic belongs somewhere in the list of cush programs as well. I just finished and when I swap notes with friends from other big programs, the three years I spent there have been easy

07-11-2009, 09:02 AM	#14
efex101 IM Resident Status: Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: MN Posts: 2,636	Yup, bc intern year is Q6 call....cush as hell.

07-11-2009, 03:35 PM	#15
dreamfox Intern Slave Status: Resident Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 98	i can assure you cornell isn't cush. not malignant, but definitely not cush.

07-23-2009, 05:57 PM	#18
tjj2010 New Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2	Anyone know how Medical College of Wisconsin is or UC Irvine? Also UCLA and anyone from St. Joe's Exempla in Denver. I hear CU denver works you hard.

07-26-2009, 10:25 AM	#20
indiamacbean Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 258	Ucsf

08-24-2009, 10:34 PM	#21
Bito42 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 113	I'm in the application process, and have done a lot of talking to resident/interns about expectations. (I don't mind working hard--would prefer it most of the time! -- but like to know about differences between places). SO, I've learned that some programs are 'top heavy' -- like columbia or hopkins, where intern year is really tough but then years 2 and 3 are lighter. The advantage is that u go into 2nd year feeling a lot more confident and 3rd year feeling very confident (from what i'm told). Other programs may be more 'cush' the first year, but that may mean that things are more spready out over the 3 years (like ICU months, for example)