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rohsik · 10-14-2002, 09:20 PM

Apart from the U.chicago, what are other good IM programs in chicago..

thanks

niwaaaa · 10-18-2002, 02:34 PM

heard great things about Loyola's program

Pinky · 10-18-2002, 05:26 PM

Actually, have heard not so great things about Loyola's program. kind of malignant i hear. also if you get a chance, take a look at where the residents are coming from. there are better programs in chicago. University of Chicago is considered the top program in Chicago. After that, UIC and Northwestern come next depending on who you talk to. The fellowships are probably more impressive for the NU grads, but the autonomy and the training at UIC is great.

Rush is also a pretty good program.

abu barney · 10-20-2002, 08:33 PM

word on the chicago streets is...

1) U of Chicago
2) Northwestern
3) Rush
4) UIC
5) Loyola

unregistered · 05-24-2003, 09:25 AM

Loyola's program is horrible. Malignancy and condescension are the mainstay. The attendings are all homegrown and inbred, and run the program like a fraternity. Resident conflicts are handled with favoritism and fascism rather than justice. Why lower yourself to Loyola when U of C, UIC, and Northwestern have better names, better training, and are in better locations?

However... if you are a DO graduate then I say go for Loyola, because the other programs don't really consider DOs whereas Loyola welcomes them with open arms.

MOZ D.O. · 05-26-2003, 10:48 PM

what about illinois masonic, lutheran general or st. james? any thoughts?

**Ligament** · 05-27-2003, 03:43 PM

Is this true in regards to DOs and the Chicago IM programs discriminating against them?

Can anybody substantiate?

apma77 · 05-27-2003, 07:47 PM

loyola is a hellhole ..keep away from there!

Renovar · 05-27-2003, 08:56 PM

oh boy, i better look twice before some of these chicago programs then... seems like other than chicago and maybe NW, the other programs are questionable....

shakzula · 05-28-2003, 11:31 AM

I really think this forum is giving an inaccurate representation of Loyola. I am a resident there and I love it. It is not the easiest program in chicago but i don't find it malignant and the program director is great. I think the prepartation one receives here is second to none in Chicago.

What are the sources for these people calling loyola a "hell hole". I looked at some of the other chicago programs when I was applying and found I didnt like places like Rush (all private attendings) and UIC as much, but still consider them great programs. U of C and northwestern are obviously more highly regarded and could lead to better fellowships but I had no problem matching into a competitive fellowship from loyola.

People love to sling mud on this site. I often have to question how much real information they have about a particular program.

jashanley · 05-28-2003, 12:58 PM

if you say you didn't like a program, for all of those out there applying next year, please give reasons.
I'd personally be happy to answer questions about UIC. I think it is a great program, with some minor faults that are being corrected every year. The autonomy is excellent and like all chicago programs the patient population is strong.
I'd didn't like Rush on my interview trail. I am not a fan of programs with a large number of private attendings. I personally didn't want to spend time on the phone tracking them down all the time (coming from a med school with privates). But it has an excellent reputation for medicine (some of the best attendings I worked with in Medical school trained at Rush), and the residents are happy from what I hear.
I know little of Loyola, but from what I hear it is strong. U of C and NW seem to garner all of the attention in the city and I can't say whether it is deserved or not, but it is time they shared it a bit.

10-14-2002, 09:20 PM	#1
rohsik Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 41	Good IM chicago programs SDN Members don't see this ad. Apart from the U.chicago, what are other good IM programs in chicago.. thanks

10-18-2002, 05:26 PM	#3
Pinky and the Brain Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 211	Actually, have heard not so great things about Loyola's program. kind of malignant i hear. also if you get a chance, take a look at where the residents are coming from. there are better programs in chicago. University of Chicago is considered the top program in Chicago. After that, UIC and Northwestern come next depending on who you talk to. The fellowships are probably more impressive for the NU grads, but the autonomy and the training at UIC is great. Rush is also a pretty good program. __________________ Anesthesiology CA-3

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abu barney resident revolutionary Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 144	word on the chicago streets is... 1) U of Chicago 2) Northwestern 3) Rush 4) UIC 5) Loyola __________________ "O son of Adam, you are nothing but days! If a day passes, then so does part of you." Al-Hassan Al-Basri

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10-18-2002, 02:34 PM	#2
niwaaaa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 9	heard great things about Loyola's program

05-24-2003, 09:25 AM	#5
unregistered Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 227	Loyola's program is horrible. Malignancy and condescension are the mainstay. The attendings are all homegrown and inbred, and run the program like a fraternity. Resident conflicts are handled with favoritism and fascism rather than justice. Why lower yourself to Loyola when U of C, UIC, and Northwestern have better names, better training, and are in better locations? However... if you are a DO graduate then I say go for Loyola, because the other programs don't really consider DOs whereas Loyola welcomes them with open arms.

05-26-2003, 10:48 PM	#6
MOZ D.O. Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 25	what about illinois masonic, lutheran general or st. james? any thoughts?

05-27-2003, 03:43 PM	#7
Ligament SDN Advisor Status: Attending Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,376	Is this true in regards to DOs and the Chicago IM programs discriminating against them? Can anybody substantiate?

05-27-2003, 07:47 PM	#8
apma77 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 427	loyola is a hellhole ..keep away from there!

05-27-2003, 08:56 PM	#9
Renovar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 445	oh boy, i better look twice before some of these chicago programs then... seems like other than chicago and maybe NW, the other programs are questionable....

05-28-2003, 11:31 AM	#10
shakzula New Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1	I really think this forum is giving an inaccurate representation of Loyola. I am a resident there and I love it. It is not the easiest program in chicago but i don't find it malignant and the program director is great. I think the prepartation one receives here is second to none in Chicago. What are the sources for these people calling loyola a "hell hole". I looked at some of the other chicago programs when I was applying and found I didnt like places like Rush (all private attendings) and UIC as much, but still consider them great programs. U of C and northwestern are obviously more highly regarded and could lead to better fellowships but I had no problem matching into a competitive fellowship from loyola. People love to sling mud on this site. I often have to question how much real information they have about a particular program.

05-28-2003, 12:58 PM	#11
jashanley Senior Member Status: Resident Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 232	if you say you didn't like a program, for all of those out there applying next year, please give reasons. I'd personally be happy to answer questions about UIC. I think it is a great program, with some minor faults that are being corrected every year. The autonomy is excellent and like all chicago programs the patient population is strong. I'd didn't like Rush on my interview trail. I am not a fan of programs with a large number of private attendings. I personally didn't want to spend time on the phone tracking them down all the time (coming from a med school with privates). But it has an excellent reputation for medicine (some of the best attendings I worked with in Medical school trained at Rush), and the residents are happy from what I hear. I know little of Loyola, but from what I hear it is strong. U of C and NW seem to garner all of the attention in the city and I can't say whether it is deserved or not, but it is time they shared it a bit.