Official 2008 Rank List Thread

[nociceptor]

Originally Posted by VentdependenT

desultory,

I had to look it up

DESULTORY:marked by lack of definite plan or regularity or purpose; jumping from one thing to another. disappointing in progress, performance, or quality

Unless you were talking about the band that has a new album out.

[VentdependenT]

Originally Posted by nociceptor

I had to look it up

DESULTORY:marked by lack of definite plan or regularity or purpose; jumping from one thing to another. disappointing in progress, performance, or quality

Unless you were talking about the band that has a new album out.

Now you know. Use it suckah!

[nociceptor]

Originally Posted by VentdependenT

Now you know. Use it suckah!

I am sure I am all ready a disappointment in progress

[VentdependenT]

check out tony robbins dude. Youll be felling the selfpower in no time.

[Gasem]

well, if no one else has the balls to post their list, how 'bout people start posting where they "heard" people wanted to go, i.e. "My friends all want to match at ..."

I am getting restless again and am attempting to calculate some sort of odds ratio thingy magiggy. plus i am semi-bored. come on people. POST SOMETHING!!!

[amyl]

yeah...the waiting is the hardest part. the torture of knowing someone knows where we have matched and just won't tell us yet! so I know a couple of my friends lists that don't post here:
1. miami 2. florida 3. st. barnabas 4. VCU 5. the one on long island that starts with an M?
1. oregon 2. arizona 3. colorado 4. UNM -- one or two more that i can't remember

[Gasem]

Originally Posted by amyl

yeah...the waiting is the hardest part. the torture of knowing someone knows where we have matched and just won't tell us yet! so I know a couple of my friends lists that don't post here:
1. miami 2. florida 3. st. barnabas 4. VCU 5. the one on long island that starts with an M?
1. oregon 2. arizona 3. colorado 4. UNM -- one or two more that i can't remember

thanks amy! now for the rest of you...

[Dr Serenity]

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[UMMS FMD]

Originally Posted by amyl

1. oregon 2. arizona 3. colorado 4. UNM -- one or two more that i can't remember

Yikes! That makes 3 with OHSU as their #1

[CocoBreezy]

Anybody else going crazy waiting for the match? 13 days to go....
I just want to know and get on with my life!

[fascinoma]

Originally Posted by CocoBreezy

Anybody else going crazy waiting for the match? 13 days to go....
I just want to know and get on with my life!

i'm wondering: does it drive you crazy to know IF you match or you want to know WHERE you match? could be both, i guess.

i have a feeling i'll match somewhere (please don't let it be my number 7...please...), so i'm not worried. i'm just wondering where. i feel like a kid before a birthday or holiday. you know there's gonna be a present, you just don't know what it's gonna be. new video game system or socks? #1-6 = video game system. #7 = socks and growing up to be an alcoholic.

yup, 13 more...

[uclalee]

Yep, I'm going crazy as well. I more interested in knowing where I matched, so I can start planning for the move. Although for some reason I'm looking forward to getting that email from NRMP saying "you've matched!" since it will take my mind off march 20th for about 3 seconds. and maybe it's just because Im on an easy rotation right now and have time to sit and ponder these things...

[CocoBreezy]

Originally Posted by fascinoma

i'm wondering: does it drive you crazy to know IF you match or you want to know WHERE you match? could be both, i guess.

i have a feeling i'll match somewhere (please don't let it be my number 7...please...), so i'm not worried. i'm just wondering where. i feel like a kid before a birthday or holiday. you know there's gonna be a present, you just don't know what it's gonna be. new video game system or socks? #1-6 = video game system. #7 = socks and growing up to be an alcoholic.

yup, 13 more...

I don't want to jinx myself, but considering the length of my ROL, I am confident that I will match somewhere. I just want to know where. Its either long and cold winters, or Waffle houses for me. I hate this inertia.

To the NRMP: "Git her done" already!!!!!!

[fascinoma]

Originally Posted by Coca Cola

I rotated at Baylor and I did not feel that the PD was very approachable. Additionally, I wrote up some critical care stuff and she said I would only be a contributor for the chapter I wrote. That kinda rubbed me the wrong way being that I spent 2 months writing it. Also, my wife would rather live in Dallas than Houston. Hopefully it won't matter anyway because I hope to match in one of my top 5 choices.

Cola

did you do an away at Hopkins? I PMed you...

[funkyfaroh]

So, I figured that since all I do is read these great posts, the least I could do is contribute and put down my #1: UT-Houston. I did an away rotation there and really enjoyed it there. The faculty were cordial, the residents were great, and it just to be a great fit for me. I know there was some drama with the chair selection process, but if Dr. Hagberg is now permanent, I think they made a great choice. Any comments about UT? Good, bad....ugly? I really wish you all the best of luck in the match and appreciate all your posts....including the puppies. =)

[Gasem]

Originally Posted by funkyfaroh

So, I figured that since all I do is read these great posts, the least I could do is contribute and put down my #1: UT-Houston. I did an away rotation there and really enjoyed it there. The faculty were cordial, the residents were great, and it just to be a great fit for me. I know there was some drama with the chair selection process, but if Dr. Hagberg is now permanent, I think they made a great choice. Any comments about UT? Good, bad....ugly? I really wish you all the best of luck in the match and appreciate all your posts....including the puppies. =)

Thanks for your post. We all appreciate it.


When I interviewed at UT Houston, I felt that the faculty and residents were genuine ( I didn't get to meet Dr. Hagberg, though) and the facilities were very nice. I was concerned about formal teaching, primarily didactic and intraop teaching weaknesses (as commented on by the residents). So, even though I love love love Texas, in the end I decided that I could not forgoe a chance to train at a different institution that had all of its cards in order.

Good luck all. I can't wait for this maddness to end.

[funkyfaroh]

No problem. I have also heard a lot regarding didactics at UT. For me, being able to settle in Houston (from there) with my family was a big factor in my decision. My wife is from the Bay Area, so i put Alameda County Medical Center as my first prelim option. I like the faculty there, its in THE BAY, and it would be great for my wife whose also a med student applying next year the opportunity to be near her family. Hopefully, once march 17th comes around, we'll all feel better about things. Just out of curiosity, I'm sure there are peeps out there who know the competitiveness of each respective program. Someone wanna take a shot at ranking Texas programs in terms of competitiveness?? Oh, GO ROCKETS! Going for 18 in a row tonight.

[oudoc08]

Originally Posted by funkyfaroh

Someone wanna take a shot at ranking Texas programs in terms of competitiveness??

Well this oughta be good for 2 or 3 pages worth

[funkyfaroh]

hey, its Saturday and nobody's posting. So i just figured.....

[Ferdie]

So it looks like at least 4 out of the 9 people going into gas in my class ranked UW #1. One did not apply here due to girlfriend/couples match issues. As for the 4 I'm not positive about, a classmate and I were talking about it, and we think they all ranked UW very highly too, if not 1st...
Sorry to everyone who ranked UW #1 (including me!). Might not be as many as Mayo, but there aren't as many spots either...

PS - like my new avatar? that's me as a young'un! All ready to pop a tube in ya...

[Gasem]

Originally Posted by funkyfaroh

No problem. I have also heard a lot regarding didactics at UT. For me, being able to settle in Houston (from there) with my family was a big factor in my decision. My wife is from the Bay Area, so i put Alameda County Medical Center as my first prelim option. I like the faculty there, its in THE BAY, and it would be great for my wife whose also a med student applying next year the opportunity to be near her family. Hopefully, once march 17th comes around, we'll all feel better about things. Just out of curiosity, I'm sure there are peeps out there who know the competitiveness of each respective program. Someone wanna take a shot at ranking Texas programs in terms of competitiveness?? Oh, GO ROCKETS! Going for 18 in a row tonight.

I totally understand. Good luck, dude. Houston does rock.

In my opinion, the competitiveness rankings would go like this:
1. UTSW
2. UTHSC-San Antonio
3. Scott and White
4. Baylor
5. UT-Houston
6. UTMB

[jgas]

Figured I'd give some hope to the Mayo-Rochester hopefuls--

1. MGH
2. Brigham
3. BIDMC
4. Stanford
5. UPenn
6. Emory
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Miami
10. Maine
11. Wake Forest
12-14. Hopefully we won't get that far (but doesn't include Mayo)

Good luck to everyone--less than 12 days left!

[nociceptor]

I think MAYO is overrated. Too much hype. He probably won't even be a lottery pick.

[funkyfaroh]

That was freakin hilarious! you know, MAYO. Get it, MAYO....uh huh huh..ah..

[ozzie20]

just wondering to all those that posted more than 10 ranks, based on what the nrmp data results are, it seems like its practically worthless to the student to rank any more than 10 (there is like a 1 in a bajillion chance that at us grad would go beyond their 10th rank, but still). So, what were people's reasons for ranking more than 10? I'm not saying you were wrong, just wanting to know people's reasons for ranking more than 10.

Either way, it seems like its elevating the competitiveness of anesthesia falsely no?

[Gasem]

Originally Posted by ozzie20

just wondering to all those that posted more than 10 ranks, based on what the nrmp data results are, it seems like its practically worthless to the student to rank any more than 10 (there is like a 1 in a bajillion chance that at us grad would go beyond their 10th rank, but still). So, what were people's reasons for ranking more than 10? I'm not saying you were wrong, just wanting to know people's reasons for ranking more than 10.

Either way, it seems like its elevating the competitiveness of anesthesia falsely no?

I ranked 12 programs. All of the NRMP data in the world is not going to comfort someone who does not match and will always have that "what if I had only ranked the rest of those schools" thought running through their heads, FOREVER. It is simple. Better safe than sorry.

[Salt Creep]

I agree the level of competitiveness hype is falsely elevated. I ranked 12 programs, and then a couple prelims after them.

Why? Like Gasem said, I want to be certain I match. It's being thorough. And there was nowhere at which I interviewed where I thought I would be unhappy passing gas. So I spent the money to get there and interview, I may as well rank the place.

If you're right, and I don't drop that far on my rank list, fantastic. That means I got one of my top choices. If I drop too far down, it means I would have failed to match had I not ranked as many places. It certainly causes me no pain to rank more places.

The pain of a lot of applications was in the $1300 eras, and in the money to travel to interviews. Ranking is pain free - at least until March 20, and beyond.

[lord_jeebus]

Originally Posted by ozzie20

just wondering to all those that posted more than 10 ranks, based on what the nrmp data results are, it seems like its practically worthless to the student to rank any more than 10 (there is like a 1 in a bajillion chance that at us grad would go beyond their 10th rank, but still). So, what were people's reasons for ranking more than 10? I'm not saying you were wrong, just wanting to know people's reasons for ranking more than 10.

Either way, it seems like its elevating the competitiveness of anesthesia falsely no?

I ranked everywhere I interviewed.

I applied to many more places than necessary because the information I was getting from my local attendings about various programs was limited and often self-contradictory. I wanted to go check out a bunch of programs personally and choose the ones I liked best.

This was even more true for prelims, where I knew very little and interviewed at all sorts of programs. My #1 prelim is a program I had never heard of when I applied.

[nociceptor]

Will somebody please post their ROLs? So that Krafty and I can be friends and keep this thread from being derailed.


I am left to comfort food until I can get friends.

[scotchnwater]

Originally Posted by ozzie20

just wondering to all those that posted more than 10 ranks, based on what the nrmp data results are, it seems like its practically worthless to the student to rank any more than 10 (there is like a 1 in a bajillion chance that at us grad would go beyond their 10th rank, but still). So, what were people's reasons for ranking more than 10? I'm not saying you were wrong, just wanting to know people's reasons for ranking more than 10.

Either way, it seems like its elevating the competitiveness of anesthesia falsely no?

Like these other people, I ranked everyplace I interviewed because I figured I'd rather go to any of those places than be unmatched.

The real question is why I went on so many interviews. Turns out that the places I would have cancelled (if I had everything to do over again) were some of the first interviews I went on. These places offered interviews earlier than others and I, in my unbounding joy and excitement, made some nonrefundable travel arrangements. Also, by the time I got some of my more "competitive" interviews, it was < 2 weeks before interviews I wanted to cancel and (according to this forum) it is in poor taste to cancel with less than 2 weeks to go. So I went on a couple more that I would have otherwise cancelled. Once I went on all the interviews, I figured there was really no good reason to not rank any one place.

If I had it to do all over, I wouldn't have purchased ANY airfare until about 1 month prior to the interview. Even though the tickets would cost more up front, I would guess that it's cheaper in the long-run than paying rebooking fees, not to mention the ability to have better control over your interview schedule.

[amyl]

that 10 rank list thing only applies to US grads...some of us osteopaths felt like we should rank some more...never know with the increasing competitiveness of anesthesiology...

[CommodeGrand]

1. Tulane
2. Ochsner
3. Mississippi
4. UTMB
5. UT-Houston
6. MCG
7. USC
8. SLU
9. LSU-Shreveport

[CommodeGrand]

Geographic preference?

[Coffee13]

1. Nebraska
2. MCOW (C)
3. MCOW (A)
4. UMKC
5. KU
6. Oklahoma
7. University of Missouri-Columbia (C)
7. University of Missouri-Columbia (A)

[Ferdie]

Originally Posted by amyl

that 10 rank list thing only applies to US grads...some of us osteopaths felt like we should rank some more...never know with the increasing competitiveness of anesthesiology...

ahem, I believe you mean falsely increasing competitiveness of anesthesiology

[PiPhiDoc]

This is a little bit off topic, but it got me thinking - what is the lowest you have ever heard of anyone matching on their ROL? I swear, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone matching lower than their 3rd or 4th, in any specialty. Maybe people are lying, and of course there are those that go unmatched...

[oudoc08]

Originally Posted by Ferdie

ahem, I believe you mean falsely increasing competitiveness of anesthesiology

I think in terms of spots available to spots filled, anesthesiology isn't as competitive as some specialties. That is, if you don't mind going anywhere else in the country to train. However, for example at my home program, there are 20 of us applying to gas this year (about 15% of our class). There are only 8 positions at OU, and it is well-known OU generally will only take about 1/2 of it's own grads. Many of the people applying wish to stay here since it's a strong program, family reasons, etc. So for those people, there is certainly an increase in competitiveness, as the previous classes (except for 2006 which had 17 applicants) have averaged around 10 applicants for the same number of slots.

Talking to many of the 3rd year students, it appears gas is even more of an interest in their class. If this is a nationwide trend, as many are predicting, the applicant # to spot ratio could change drastically, and boost anesthesia even further on the competition scale in the next couple of years.

And 15 years ago you couldn't hardly pay somebody to do it.

[amyl]

Originally Posted by PiPhiDoc

This is a little bit off topic, but it got me thinking - what is the lowest you have ever heard of anyone matching on their ROL? I swear, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone matching lower than their 3rd or 4th, in any specialty. Maybe people are lying, and of course there are those that go unmatched...

in past years here people have posted where they have matched and i think there have been a few that went do to 7 or 8.

[Creamfly]

Originally Posted by Coffee13

1. Nebraska
2. MCOW (C)
3. MCOW (A)
4. UMKC
5. KU
6. Oklahoma
7. University of Missouri-Columbia (C)
7. University of Missouri-Columbia (A)

Is that you Jimmy?
1. Vermont
2. Penn State
3. Nebraska
4. Maine
5. Arizona
6. Milwaukee
7. Utah
etc...

[titanjones]

Originally Posted by funkyfaroh

So, I figured that since all I do is read these great posts, the least I could do is contribute and put down my #1: UT-Houston. I did an away rotation there and really enjoyed it there. The faculty were cordial, the residents were great, and it just to be a great fit for me. I know there was some drama with the chair selection process, but if Dr. Hagberg is now permanent, I think they made a great choice. Any comments about UT? Good, bad....ugly? I really wish you all the best of luck in the match and appreciate all your posts....including the puppies. =)

I interviewed at UTH and wasnt really impressed with the program. I think they get a good clinical experience however the condition of the hospital is pretty run down as is the anesthesia offices. Also only about 30% of the grads go into fellowship, and ALL of them go into fellowship in texas. Also only 1 or 2 of the attendings are involved in research. I needed a program with a more national reputation since I dont plan on staying in the state forever

[titanjones]

Originally Posted by nociceptor

1. Hogwarts
2. Griffendor
3. Xanadu

the rest are secret


I am not ranking but since there seems to be so much hate and name calling on this particular thread I thought I would try and get it back on track.
I remember the old days when we use to write our rank lists without being attacked. Those woebegone days.

yo that ish is fkin funny. u got me crackin up over here

[funkyfaroh]

Thanks for your reply titan. I guess its just a matter of time now. I dont know how competitive UT-Houston is but I heard that a lot of the competition for slots come from the med school itself. Either way, its all in now. I'm goin surfing this week in Irvine to keep my mind off it. Best of luck.