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Old 05-12-2009, 04:53 PM   #1
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How to know which DISEASE to study thoroughly for boards?

How does review books and college prof. knows which disease to teach/cover?

How what is imp. for boards is figured out?

USMLE content is very general in nature. It gives examples of disease but says not limited to those examples.
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Basically know the genetics, mechanism, pathophysiology, eponymous names, and treatment of every disease with an incidence greater than 1-2 per 100,000, and you will be fine for the boards. Oh, and cranial nerves, don't forget the cranial nerves.
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How to know which DISEASE to study thoroughly for boards?
Pretty much all of them have been a question at some point.

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How does review books and college prof. knows which disease to teach/cover?
Well I would imagine college professors have absolutely no clue. So do the gross majority of medical school lecturers. They're either clinicians or researchers who have no real investment in finding out and distilling their material to what is relevant to Step 1.

Review books/authors compile what is important both by referencing previous exams and by collecting information on what asked from student who have taken the exams. The more questions asked on a disease, the more "important" it is.
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As mentioned, college profs are irrelevant to the process; you probably mean medical school profs. All med schools will cover the major topics (obviously the diseases with the greatest societal impact), as well as the historically heavily tested topics. Med schools get feedback on the USMLE as to which topics their students get wrong, and often take steps to adjust their curriculum to increase focus to these topics in which their students were lacking. Board review books are adjusted based on topics tested on the USMLE -- while they get no feedback directly from the NBME, they do rely on student feedback. (For example FA is largely student written and updated).
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Pretty much all of them have been a question at some point.

Well I would imagine college professors have absolutely no clue. So do the gross majority of medical school lecturers. They're either clinicians or researchers who have no real investment in finding out and distilling their material to what is relevant to Step 1.

Review books/authors compile what is important both by referencing previous exams and by collecting information on what asked from student who have taken the exams. The more questions asked on a disease, the more "important" it is.
Do they have access to old exam from NBME with the condition that they can't use exact question?
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Do they have access to old exam from NBME with the condition that they can't use exact question?
They have access to the same NBME old exams as you can pay to use on the site. They also sometimes get feedback from students as to what topics were tested. But no, they don't get special access to the tests that you individually don't have.
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They have access to the same NBME old exams as you can pay to use on the site. They also sometimes get feedback from students as to what topics were tested. But no, they don't get special access to the tests that you individually don't have.
A good number write questions for the NBME at some point during their career. This involves training, conferences, etc, with exposure to questions that are not released. Some incorporate what they learn through this process in the courses they teach. So, yes, they can get special access to tests that you don't have.

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A good number write questions for the NBME at some point during their career. This involves training, conferences, etc, with exposure to questions that are not released. Some incorporate what they learn through this process in the courses they teach. So, yes, they can get special access to tests that you don't have.

You're a moderator. Please resist the temptation to make authoritative sounding statements about things outside your experience base.
I AM one of those question writers and I am also in academic medicine. We don't just teach topics for a Board exam but many things that you will need for practice (yes, I do practice medicine/surgery too). There are general topics lists that are out there but they are general for a good reason. Think about it.
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I AM one of those question writers and I am also in academic medicine. We don't just teach topics for a Board exam but many things that you will need for practice (yes, I do practice medicine/surgery too). There are general topics lists that are out there but they are general for a good reason. Think about it.
How did you get involved with the NBME as a question writer?
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I stand by my post and consider it well within my experience base. A lot of these board reviews solicit input from students. Sure, some are written by question writers as well, but that doesn't make my response wrong. I do question the likelihood of your suggestion that board reviewers get special access to tests, because there are actually copyright and licensing issues involved if they then turn around and write a board review text using that info.
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You can go to the USMLE website USMLE and download the content. There is nothing secretive about this. Most review books are based on the content list.
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You can go to the USMLE website USMLE and download the content. There is nothing secretive about this. Most review books are based on the content list.

i have downloaded and printed the content list out.
Also, i have highlighted topics as my college went through them.

I am about to finish first year at DO school and we have almost covered first three topic section leaving psych and some other stuff out for second year.

What it doesn't tell is DISEASE to focus for board preparation?

What do u think about checking that content list out as I start preparing for boards next year?

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I AM one of those question writers and I am also in academic medicine. We don't just teach topics for a Board exam but many things that you will need for practice (yes, I do practice medicine/surgery too). There are general topics lists that are out there but they are general for a good reason. Think about it.
Do you mind taking a look at this post: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=627350
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you should know the pathophys, epidemiology, and treatment of all of the diseases in First Aid, BRS Pathology, and anything else covered by your q-bank.

you will not be exposed to most of this information until your second year. Be patient, and relax this summer, because in a year you will spend 5 weeks in hell studying for step 1.
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See these other threads: What disease do people get? Also, what disease is in books?
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I stand by my post and consider it well within my experience base. A lot of these board reviews solicit input from students. Sure, some are written by question writers as well, but that doesn't make my response wrong. I do question the likelihood of your suggestion that board reviewers get special access to tests, because there are actually copyright and licensing issues involved if they then turn around and write a board review text using that info.
A word of advice: people may be more willing to trust you if you learn how to admit when you are wrong.
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