CLASS OF 2014...how ya doing?

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Awesome pics. Thanks for posting those.

Wow, EE, you really got nailed! Youch.
C'mon, antibiotics, do your stuff!

Thanks, it's getting there. I took new photos tonight:
Dorsal
Palmar

A random kitteh picture

Wow, EE, that's pretty brutal! Looks like it's healing well! The scratches will make some awesome battle scars.

I know it's easier said than done, but don't worry. I mean it. The curve is amazon river huge. You will be fine. People don't fail out of our school because of bacteriology. Most people fail the first test..and when I say fail I mean 50s and 60s (as opposed to the vet school definition of failing to some which is below a 90 )...and most of the final grades in my class were As and Bs. I got a 60 something on the first test and still got an A in the class. I remember when I was in your shoes, and upperclassmen were telling me the same thing, and I was still worried since he doesn't announce that he curves or how he does it. But he does, and he will, and you will pass and probably more than pass. There were also a lot of tears and storming out of the room in my class when he gave grades back so don't let that scare you either! Everyone bombs his tests, and everyone makes it through. He can't be responsible for 50% or more of the class failing out of vet school because of bacteriology and I've never heard of anyone getting less than a C in there.

Originally Posted by NiennaDimple14

So during the bacteriology test today, i really tried to remember that Dr. Bemis is really a great guy because he really is...but right now...that's just not working. I'm pretty sure that i did not do well on that test at all and i don't know how much that curve is going to help me, considering how i probably did. I mean, that curve needs to be amazingly huge, like amazon river huge. ugh

Two exams down (anatomy of pelvic limb, and radiology) and two more next week! and then it's never ending until the end of the semester . Neglected studying histology/physiology while studying anatomy for the last two weeks, like "it's ok, maybe like 8 chapters or so... I can catch up easily later" but it turns out we covered 15 chapters . nice... It'll be a fun Sunday for me.

But I'm really digging CSU's pass/fail system. I'm not one to worry or obsess about class rank (I mean, does it really take someone who graduated on the top of the class to eventually get a shelter job? I sure practical experience and common sense are much more important). I try to aim for an 85, so I get super extra happy if I go above it, and if I'm below it I have a good 15% leeway before I dip below 70 and fail. Actually not all that stressful, and that's been a very pleasant surprise.

There was a lot of love from our upper classmen before our first anatomy exam and that was awesome . The Christian Veterinary Fellowship made us a TON of yummy treats and left them for us in the morning in the cubes. And when we sat down in the lecture hall to get directions and receive our exams, our anatomy prof told us there were a few members of our sophomore class that wanted to give us pointers, and then the entire sophomore class came busting in cheering and blowing bubbles. It turns out they made a 15 min movie of a really awesome zoolander parody featuring members of their class along with several of the professors. It was freaking amazing!!!

I wonder if there is anyone out there who wants to go to vet school just for the theatrics.

Some sort of masochist, perhaps.

Yeah, really.

Minnerbelle, your status still says pre-vet. *nudge*

Just took my first vet school test -- radiology -- and I think it went quite well!

Two weeks in and I'm still absolutely loving vet school, but I'll post again after our six-tests-in-eight-days extravaganza in a couple weeks.

We have our first exam tomorrow in cell physiology! I'm not so worried about that one, but I'm completely terrified about our first anatomy exam on Friday (covering bones and muscles and joints of the thoracic and pelvic limbs, bones and joints of the axial skeleton, and the hypaxial and epaxial muscles. I'm a little jealous of you guys who have exams one limb at a time!). Hopefully all goes well, and good luck to everyone else who has exams this week!

Originally Posted by Allthingsequine

... I'm completely terrified about our first anatomy exam on Friday (covering bones and muscles and joints of the thoracic and pelvic limbs, bones and joints of the axial skeleton, and the hypaxial and epaxial muscles. I'm a little jealous of you guys who have exams one limb at a time!).

Holy crap! how long is this exam??? We had close to 100 questions on just the pelvic limb that took a good 2 hrs to take (where we're allowed 3 hrs). I was pooped after that, I can't imagine going on for another 2 hrs or so to cover the rest of that stuff!

I'm hoping for your sake that you don't have too many questions and therefore aren't tested as much on the nit-picky.

Originally Posted by eventualeventer

Minnerbelle, your status still says pre-vet. *nudge*

haha, i guess now that i've formally declared it on sdn, i'm officially a vet student

Originally Posted by parietal

Just took my first vet school test -- radiology -- and I think it went quite well!

Two weeks in and I'm still absolutely loving vet school, but I'll post again after our six-tests-in-eight-days extravaganza in a couple weeks.

... and again...
i was unaware of this

Originally Posted by JKIM02

... and again...
i was unaware of this

Yep. Clinical Skills Written, Physiological Chem, Clinical Skills Practical, Radiology, Anatomy and Histology. Starts Sept. 29, ends Oct. 7. All right there on our 17-page schedule.

I've told my family and friends not to expect to see or hear from me during that time...

Originally Posted by Minnerbelle

Holy crap! how long is this exam??? We had close to 100 questions on just the pelvic limb that took a good 2 hrs to take (where we're allowed 3 hrs). I was pooped after that, I can't imagine going on for another 2 hrs or so to cover the rest of that stuff!

I'm hoping for your sake that you don't have too many questions and therefore aren't tested as much on the nit-picky.

Allthingsequine-now i can honestly give you real good luck and not sarcastic good luck lol. Our exam is also on the whole body muscles, bones, nerves etc... (cept head) i am very scared. Oya, and ijust found out recently we are also responsibly for comparisons to cats and radiographs. yay! lol
so i hope you do well !!! it is nice to finally hear someone having to be tested similarly to us

Minnerbelle- fewer questions does not equal less nit picky lol. I heard our practical will only have about 40 questions on it. I'm not sure if that includes the different "parts" or not (if you cut this, what will happen, what is found below this muscle...bursa) But I hear if you get a 50% you are good lol. It is apparently the only class they curve. My mentor said study the tinniest details because that is mostly what they ask.

You guys are making me feel good about having anatomy the way we have it. Our first test(just finished taking it about 30 minutes ago) was over the skeleton, thoracic limb, and pelvic limb. The way he sets it up is essentially you have to answer 5 questions for every one real question, but there were only 23 questions. I was amazed that it was actually more like having a conversation about anatomy than taking an exam. *shock and awe* I was prepared to go home crying.

Originally Posted by BlacKAT33

Minnerbelle- fewer questions does not equal less nit picky lol. I heard our practical will only have about 40 questions on it. I'm not sure if that includes the different "parts" or not (if you cut this, what will happen, what is found below this muscle...bursa) But I hear if you get a 50% you are good lol. It is apparently the only class they curve. My mentor said study the tinniest details because that is mostly what they ask.

ew... that's even worse. i really feel bad for all of you. do you guys do comparative other than cats? 'cause i have no idea how you would get all that info in with just 40 questions!

Originally Posted by parietal

Yep. Clinical Skills Written, Physiological Chem, Clinical Skills Practical, Radiology, Anatomy and Histology. Starts Sept. 29, ends Oct. 7. All right there on our 17-page schedule.

I've told my family and friends not to expect to see or hear from me during that time...

Do your teachers not work with you to move tests around? Ours are so accommodating and let us move them so our tests are spaced out. I <3 Mississippi State

Oh and I love anatomy!! We start a bit earlier than other schools so we are able to spread it all out. I spend maybe 2 hours studying for anatomy outside of class since we have soooo much time in lab to learn it all. It's not that we don't have the same amount of material or learn it as in depth, but we have 2 hours every day in lab to learn it. Our tests are pretty spread apart too since we will have anatomy from the beginning of July to the end of April

Originally Posted by Minnerbelle

ew... that's even worse. i really feel bad for all of you. do you guys do comparative other than cats? 'cause i have no idea how you would get all that info in with just 40 questions!

lol that is the hard part-40 Questions probably tests about 10% of what we learn....its just hit and miss! you study ALL that and get tested on w/e questions they randomly pick lol

I'm not sure, i had no clue we were even doin comparative stuff now until they sent out an email last week with a page of differences in dogs vs cats lol. there is a cat out now that we can look at (havent gotten the chance yet ) god im so behind!!! lol

We learn dog, cat, horse, and cow all at the same time

Originally Posted by luplodw

We learn dog, cat, horse, and cow all at the same time

this is strange. how do u learn horse at the same time as dog but you're not dissecting the horse yet? I thought every school does horse after dog and usually the goat with that. and chicken...not sure what else lol.

I *think* we dont need to know comparisons with LA's until we start dissecting the LAs.

Originally Posted by BlacKAT33

this is strange. how do u learn horse at the same time as dog but you're not dissecting the horse yet? I thought every school does horse after dog and usually the goat with that. and chicken...not sure what else lol.

I *think* we dont need to know comparisons with LA's until we start dissecting the LAs.

ok, that makes more sense. I was wondering why we had so many questions on our goddam exam on JUST THE PELVIC LIMB. Still comparatively way more questions than you guys (and you're probably right that they're less nit-picky), but our exam was half equine, plus a few questions here and there about ruminants... and some random questions about embryology thrown in.

I guess we do carnivores, equine, and ruminants together, but just one section of the body at a time. We got a whole embalmed dog to work on throughout our anatomy study, and initially worked on the muscles, nerves, and blood vessels of the pelvic limb. At one point, we got unfixed dog limbs to study the joints. And about a week before our exam, we got a stinky unfixed frozen/thawed equine pelvic limb with which we studied the same. Two days before the exam, we had a lab on ruminants (plastinated specimen and skeletons). So do you all go back and start fresh with equine/ruminants all over again after you finish the dog?

Our professor's really good about only requiring us to know parts of bodies that are clinically important, so that makes it pretty straightforward for us. I've heard that most students pass (<70%), so I'm sure our averages are way above the 50-60% you speak of ( how sucky is that?)... as that would result in many students being kicked out of school.

Originally Posted by luplodw

Do your teachers not work with you to move tests around? Ours are so accommodating and let us move them so our tests are spaced out. I <3 Mississippi State

Our schedule is really packed, so it would be really hard to move things around. I actually don't mind terribly much: it's good preparation for second year when things get even wilder. (And probably good experience for clinical practice, too. Big cases don't tend to come evenly thoughout the year or day. )

Plus, it eliminates any procrastinating tendencies I have just to look at that week and know what I need to get done before then.

We have a dog to dissect in a 4 person group. They will bring out like 4 horse legs or whatever for the class to share so we work on our dog until a horse leg is free and then you can work on it. The teachers dissect out all the structures in the non-dog species so we don't waste time on it

Originally Posted by parietal

Our schedule is really packed, so it would be really hard to move things around. I actually don't mind terribly much: it's good preparation for second year when things get even wilder. (And probably good experience for clinical practice, too. Big cases don't tend to come evenly thoughout the year or day. )

Plus, it eliminates any procrastinating tendencies I have just to look at that week and know what I need to get done before then.

I was just thinking about you today P. Glad to hear you are doing well and loving the vet school dream

Originally Posted by HandD42

I was just thinking about you today P. Glad to hear you are doing well and loving the vet school dream

H! How the heck are you? How is Iowa State? Why the heck aren't we friends on Facebook yet?

Just had my first exam today!!! biochem! It was actually easier than my undergrad course but I think i studied too many details lol all of the hard stuff i spent a lot of time studying wasn't on there. I hope i get higher than an 80!!

Now the cycle of exams begins...

What is new with everyone else??

Oh, i forgot to mention i got VP for my class!! I think i wrote that in the Bones thread.

Originally Posted by BlacKAT33

What is new with everyone else??

Oh, i forgot to mention i got VP for my class!!

Congrats!!!

We're on exam #5 tomorrow! And because of a clerical error, the exam got posted online by accident... SO NOW IT'S OPEN BOOK OPEN NOTES!!!!!!

Yippee Skippy! I'm so glad I put this one aside and didn't start studying it until today!

Now onto studying for Anatomy exam #2 for next week

Originally Posted by Minnerbelle

Congrats!!!

We're on exam #5 tomorrow! And because of a clerical error, the exam got posted online by accident... SO NOW IT'S OPEN BOOK OPEN NOTES!!!!!!

Yippee Skippy! I'm so glad I put this one aside and didn't start studying it until today!

Now onto studying for Anatomy exam #2 for next week

Yay! AND it's our LAST written radiology test!!!!! Sometimes it pays to be a slacker minner, you could have napped all afternoon!

Originally Posted by eringobraugh

Yay! AND it's our LAST written radiology test!!!!! Sometimes it pays to be a slacker minner, you could have napped all afternoon!

you know what i did instead? I cooked for like 2 hrs and cleaned the kitchen! ugh... could have memorized a few more muscles but oh well... i'm on our butterfly muscle so i got a long ways to go

Butterfly muscle? I can't even think of one that would look like that unless it's like, the gastrocnemius or sternocephalicus (one of those that come together).

We're on exam #5 tomorrow! And because of a clerical error, the exam got posted online by accident... SO NOW IT'S OPEN BOOK OPEN NOTES!!!!!!

Supremely jealous.

We're on test 4. 5 is at the end of this week, 6 is next Monday, and 7 is the next Monday after that.

We had our first biochem test this morning; the results are out already, and the class mean is a 91 (median is something like 93, don't remember). I got a 95, so I'm pretty happy and somewhat shocked, since biochem is NOT my thing. It was a fairly straightforward, multiple choice exam. We had our behavior final last Friday, which was easy - there were a few individual multiple choice questions followed by a long group essay part discussing some common scenarios (horse won't load on trailer, etc.). Next Monday is histo, then anatomy, then p-chem again, etc.

BlacKAT, congrats on being VP, and I'm sure you rocked that exam.

We just finished test 5 yesterday, test 6 is next week.

Other than anatomy lab, I'm having a blast so far. Just wish I didn't struggle so much when forced into a concrete room with 85 people making tons of noise (including me). Not very conducive to my learning of all things structural.

Originally Posted by HopefulAg

Butterfly muscle? I can't even think of one that would look like that unless it's like, the gastrocnemius or sternocephalicus (one of those that come together).

yea what is this butterfly muscle?? the only things i can imagine looking anything similar to a butterfly are the pronator teres and supinator together. Although that looks more like a heart to me than butterfly lol

Originally Posted by katryn

We just finished test 5 yesterday, test 6 is next week.

Other than anatomy lab, I'm having a blast so far. Just wish I didn't struggle so much when forced into a concrete room with 85 people making tons of noise (including me). Not very conducive to my learning of all things structural.

I have mixed feelings about anatomy lab. I really like seeing most of the structures, like the lungs, muscles, vessels, etc. But when the book says to find a ganglion, and we spend 20 minutes looking for something the size of the head of a pin, it doesn't seem conducive to learning. Sometimes I really hate that dissection guide!

Originally Posted by skittles12

I have mixed feelings about anatomy lab. I really like seeing most of the structures, like the lungs, muscles, vessels, etc. But when the book says to find a ganglion, and we spend 20 minutes looking for something the size of the head of a pin, it doesn't seem conducive to learning. Sometimes I really hate that dissection guide!

Yeah, overall it's nice to see the general course of a vessel or nerve, or the placement of an organ, but I find that I learn a lot more outside of the lab than in it.

Originally Posted by skittles12

Sometimes I really hate that dissection guide!

I can imagine how hard it was to write this guide, but with so many edits over the years...i'm surprised how many pics need to be redone. They really don't have that many angles for each topic you learn. Sometimes only one angle to look at certain things. it makes me so mad!! we use big miller a lot. I love the color of little miller, but if something isn't shown in the right way it is useless

Originally Posted by HopefulAg

Butterfly muscle? I can't even think of one that would look like that unless it's like, the gastrocnemius or sternocephalicus (one of those that come together).

The m. tensor fasciae latae kind of looks like a butterfly if you transect its insertion and reflect it on the lateral side, and open it up given that the muscle bellies of your m. sartorius are transected and moved out of the way. (lateral side is half the butterfly and medial side is the other half, and you'll see the whole butterfly if you're looking on the medial side and peel over the lateral half.) not sure if that made any sense... but to us it's the butterfly muscle.

so... now we're on the forelimb, and just out of habit our little study group likes to call the m. tensor fasciae antebrachii the "butterfly muscle" as well

Our first exam is not until February, it's spread over 3 days (spot exam, written and oral) and worth 80% of our grade

Originally Posted by Minnerbelle

The m. tensor fasciae latae kind of looks like a butterfly if you transect its insertion and reflect it on the lateral side, and open it up given that the muscle bellies of your m. sartorius are transected and moved out of the way. (lateral side is half the butterfly and medial side is the other half, and you'll see the whole butterfly if you're looking on the medial side and peel over the lateral half.) not sure if that made any sense... but to us it's the butterfly muscle.

This was the "Star Trek Symbol" muscle for us!

Originally Posted by Minnerbelle

so... now we're on the forelimb, and just out of habit our little study group likes to call the m. tensor fasciae antebrachii the "butterfly muscle" as well

Minnerbelle has also aptly named the 4 heads that make up quadriceps femoris the "hot dog" muscles. Vastus lateralis and medialis are the sides of the bun, rectus femoris is the "Hot dog" and vastus intermedius is the bottom of the bun. Yay!

Originally Posted by eringobraugh

Minnerbelle has also aptly named the 4 heads that make up quadriceps femoris the "hot dog" muscles. Vastus lateralis and medialis are the sides of the bun, rectus femoris is the "Hot dog" and vastus intermedius is the bottom of the bun. Yay!

Oh I can't take credit for either of these things. I was simply relaying information I got from one of my groupmates, who used to teach anatomy!

Originally Posted by eringobraugh

Minnerbelle has also aptly named the 4 heads that make up quadriceps femoris the "hot dog" muscles. Vastus lateralis and medialis are the sides of the bun, rectus femoris is the "Hot dog" and vastus intermedius is the bottom of the bun. Yay!

Yah we have the hot dog muscle too. It's too perfectly shaped to not be called the hot dog muscle. Really, whoever thought of "quadriceps femoris" had no imagination. "Hot dog m." with heads of "lateral bun, medial bun, intermedius bun, hot dog" would have been a lot easier to remember.

yea what is this butterfly muscle?? the only things i can imagine looking anything similar to a butterfly are the pronator teres and supinator together. Although that looks more like a heart to me than butterfly lol

Our supinator is the Superman shield.

We totally need to make a thread dedicated to tricks to remember things. My friends and I made up "Seriously Evil Children Break Toys for the parts of the hyoid apparatus (Stylohyoid, Epihyoid, Ceratohyoid, Basihyoid, Thyrohyoid)

The Transversarius, Longissimus, and Iliocostal systems are the Three Little Indians (or Three Little Injuns as I've also heard it called, I guess to kind of tie in The Little Engine (that could) as well).

Originally Posted by HopefulAg

Really, whoever thought of "quadriceps femoris" had no imagination.

But you have to tip your hat to whoever named the proteins flippase, floppase, and scramblase.

True, but you have to want to eviscerate whoever decided to name every freaking immunologic cytokine "IL-1, 2, 3, 4, etc." or Th1, 2, 17 or Interferon alpha, beta, omega, gamma.

"What's the difference between Interleukins 1 and 6?"
'Five?'



Two guesses as to what I'm procrastinating from...

Originally Posted by HopefulAg

The Transversarius, Longissimus, and Iliocostal systems are the Three Little Indians (or Three Little Injuns as I've also heard it called, I guess to kind of tie in The Little Engine (that could) as well).

Reverse these and you can use I Love Tacos

Hey 2014, just checking in. Midterms start on Monday. I hope everyone is doing well! It's been a crazy to months here!