Campbell University (CUSOM) DIscussion Thread 2012 - 2013

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New School!!! Accepting first class August 2013!!! Discuss away!!!

Who else is applying here? I am :O. 3.26 science 3.36 science mcat TBD.

I'm interested in this school, but I'm wondering if it's worth it to apply since I'm a California resident. I have a 3.45 cumulative GPA and am taking the mcat July 6th. I went to a baptist school for college so I'm interested in this school since it's a christian school.

Their website says they have a bias towards north carolina and south eastern states but who knows for sure.

"Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences and cumulative grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2. The admissions process is competitive, and a higher grade point average (above 3.0) results in improved chances for acceptance. CUSOM places emphasis on the last 120 credit hours and on the science and required courses when choosing between competitive applicants. CUSOM also places emphasis on the applicant’s interview."

I thought this was a little strange since more established DO schools dont typically have this? Any thoughts on the applicant pool for campbell this cycle, on whether or not itll be competitive for a new school? My cum gpa is a 3.26 with a 3.36 science so I just barely make it to their 3.2, lol. It just seems a little strange since they have bias for NC and southeastern states

Cgpa =?= Overall Gpa
Min:3.0 =?= Min:3.2


Doesn't quite make sense. Anyway I think their min gpa will probably be a cutoff of 3.0, but if it is a 3.2 then they will suffer by having both low mcat averages and low enrollment as people with a 3.2+ and a high mcat will probably attend some other more established school instead. Not to mention NC has a ton of instate schools that really perfer their own students and have low stats as it is ( Brody is what? A 3.5/28-29?).

@Cole, go to a more established school, don't aim so low.

yeah im looking into a lot of schools, i was just a little surprised by this. The paragraph i copy/pasted from their site confuses me. Requiring at least a 3.2 cumulative? seems like a confident move by their part.

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

yeah im looking into a lot of schools, i was just a little surprised by this. The paragraph i copy/pasted from their site confuses me. Requiring at least a 3.2 cumulative? seems like a confident move by their part.

Except they aren't say that. They are saying something contradictory, because they require a min Cumgpa of 3.0 and a overall gpa of 3.2. So unless the Overall Gpa is some sort of Frankenstiein gpa combining post-bacc gpa, grad gpa, etc. then a 3.2 is probably just a recommendation.

Originally Posted by serenade

Except they aren't say that. They are saying something contradictory, because they require a min Cumgpa of 3.0 and a overall gpa of 3.2. So unless the Overall Gpa is some sort of Frankenstiein gpa combining post-bacc gpa, grad gpa, etc. then a 3.2 is probably just a recommendation.

lol oh. that is super weird. ive never heard of a DO school doing that before.

Originally Posted by serenade

Except they aren't say that. They are saying something contradictory, because they require a min Cumgpa of 3.0 and a overall gpa of 3.2. So unless the Overall Gpa is some sort of Frankenstiein gpa combining post-bacc gpa, grad gpa, etc. then a 3.2 is probably just a recommendation.

That is odd since cGPA is synonymous with overall GPA...

Originally Posted by michow87

That is odd since cGPA is synonymous with overall GPA...

thats what i thought at first, lol

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

thats what i thought at first, lol

I mean, maybe they are saying that applicants with a 3.00-3.199 can apply, but they generally are wasting their money?

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

"Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences and cumulative grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2. The admissions process is competitive, and a higher grade point average (above 3.0) results in improved chances for acceptance. CUSOM places emphasis on the last 120 credit hours and on the science and required courses when choosing between competitive applicants. CUSOM also places emphasis on the applicant’s interview."

I thought this was a little strange since more established DO schools dont typically have this? Any thoughts on the applicant pool for campbell this cycle, on whether or not itll be competitive for a new school? My cum gpa is a 3.26 with a 3.36 science so I just barely make it to their 3.2, lol. It just seems a little strange since they have bias for NC and southeastern states

That is definitely a good news for me because by the time I apply I'll have over 250+ credit hrs from my BS, BA, MS, and PhD

Originally Posted by serenade

I mean, maybe they are saying that applicants with a 3.00-3.199 can apply, but they generally are wasting their money?

i sent them email asking a few questions, so im curious what theyll say.

OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA

Originally Posted by curt656

OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA

So, in that case, they do require a min cGPA of 3.2 for acceptance.

Originally Posted by curt656

OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA

Then I expect half of the class to be not filled and the average mcat to be no higher than a 24.

I must apologize to OP. I pulled my info off of the AACOM website, and OP pulled off of CUSOM website. The CUSOM states "3.0 sciences and cumulative grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."

So, I would say that the CUSOM website has a typo and the AACOM is probably more accurate. Just take the word cumulative out of CUSOM's and it is the same.

Originally Posted by curt656

OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA

i copied directly from their website?

If this sticks, probably people with low 3.0's and low 20's/high teens MCAT will be filling those 150+ seats.

Originally Posted by serenade

Then I expect half of the class to be not filled and the average mcat to be no higher than a 24.

What made you think that?

Originally Posted by ECU Pirate

What made you think that?

It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.

That's understandable, but Campbell is a reputable school and has decent pharmacy, law and divine schools.

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.

This. A student with a 3.3/25+ is going to potentially get into a school like LMU. LECOM, VCOM, etc. Generally by cutting out low gpa applicants with high mcats you really cut out a major audience. Furthermore again, NC has a lot of state schools including one with stats that are lower than most MD schools.

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.

and they have regional preference for NC residents and southeastern states.

so im super curious what ends up happening.

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

and they have regional preference for NC residents and southeastern states.

so im super curious what ends up happening.

Yes they do, I'm from NC and the people I know who graduated from Campbell were all NC natives.

Originally Posted by ECU Pirate

That's understandable, but Campbell is a reputable school and has decent pharmacy, law and divine schools.

Doesn't matter. The problem is that they don't have a med school. What happens if the prepare you for the boards incorrectly? You are the one screwed. it may be at Princeton, but the administration doesn't have the actual experience running that med school and that faculty.

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

Doesn't matter. The problem is that they don't have a med school. What happens if the prepare you for the boards incorrectly? You are the one screwed. it may be at Princeton, but the administration doesn't have the actual experience running that med school and that faculty.

Oh yeah that's true, I don't know where they're gonna find the hospitals for clinical rotations. A friend of mine is in the pharmacy school at Campbell and he just started his clinical last month, at a small nursing home, right next to a hospital, he doesn't even have the access to the hospital..which I was a bit surprised..

Originally Posted by ECU Pirate

Yes they do, I'm from NC and the people I know who graduated from Campbell were all NC natives.

theyll have to accept a decent amount from south eastern states im sure.

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

theyll have to accept a decent amount from south eastern states im sure.

They also have a very...strict..dress code..and the school is in the middle of no where. There's a baptist church on campus though

Originally Posted by ECU Pirate

That's understandable, but Campbell is a reputable school and has decent pharmacy, law and divine schools.

I honestly can say that it does not sound like an impressive school or one that I would personally give the honor of having a medical school. And Pharmacy schools and Law schools are a dime a dozen.

Originally Posted by serenade

I honestly can say that it does not sound like an impressive school or one that I would personally give the honor of having a medical school. And Pharmacy schools and Law schools are a dime a dozen.

Campbell is not a bad school, it's reputable in the South, people who graduate from there tend to stay in the South..

Originally Posted by ECU Pirate

Campbell is not a bad school, it's reputable in the South, people who graduate from there tend to stay in the South..

I'm not saying it is bad, I'm just saying that the game of owning medical schools is not for small mid level colleges. It's for reputable research universities with huge endowments.

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I am! 25Q. 6 PS. 8 BS. 11 V

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

Their website says they have a bias towards north carolina and south eastern states but who knows for sure.

Yeah, I am wondering whether or not I should apply. There are so many possible levels of regional bias, it's hard to tell.

I feel that new(ish) schools kind of boast up their stats. I don't know why.

I live somewhat close to WCU, and everyone around here is convinced that if you don't have a 3.5 you'll be lucky to be granted an interview. Then a quick search online shows their average matriculant is well under 3.4. It's simply difficult to get ahold of consistent statistics for new schools. We won't know the average Campbell stats for 3+ years, I bet.

Anyway, back on track, Campbell has pretty high hopes for its first year class. I don't think they'll stay true to that, but at least they're shying away the 2.6 applicants.

Originally Posted by DocFelt

I feel that new(ish) schools kind of boast up their stats. I don't know why.

I live somewhat close to WCU, and everyone around here is convinced that if you don't have a 3.5 you'll be lucky to be granted an interview. Then a quick search online shows their average matriculant is well under 3.4. It's simply difficult to get ahold of consistent statistics for new schools. We won't know the average Campbell stats for 3+ years, I bet.

Anyway, back on track, Campbell has pretty high hopes for its first year class. I don't think they'll stay true to that, but at least they're shying away the 2.6 applicants.

The plethora of anecdotes do not create statistics.

Are they saying that an applicant with 3.18 cGPA, 3.5 sGPA and 29 MCAT will be auto rejected....If this is true, they will have a lot students with 3.2+ GPA and subpar MCAT score.

it appears that they are saying that, but i doubt that they will stick to it the first year. no one knows how they will do with admissions including them and the last thing that they want to do is under accept. And being that they know it is very risky going to a first year school, if I were them, I would accept at least 200 for a class of 150 and my waitlist would be three times the class. I wouldn't continue this once they can actually claim a baseline, but for the first year, i would be overly cautious. i suspect they will be as well.

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

it appears that they are saying that, but i doubt that they will stick to it the first year. no one knows how they will do with admissions including them and the last thing that they want to do is under accept. And being that they know it is very risky going to a first year school, if I were them, I would accept at least 200 for a class of 150 and my waitlist would be three times the class. I wouldn't continue this once they can actually claim a baseline, but for the first year, i would be overly cautious. i suspect they will be as well.

I think they want to accept students who are more likely to stay in NC and the South after graduation. There is always a high risk to attend a brand new school, and I think this applies to all kind of schools.

where does it say that they favor southeastern states....damnit i hope i didnt waste my money applying

Originally Posted by Mash43

where does it say that they favor southeastern states....damnit i hope i didnt waste my money applying

You can still apply, but you may check the acceptance ratio for OOS students for their pharmacy/law programs.

Mission Statement

The Mission of the Campbell University School of Osteopathic Medicine (CUSOM) is to educate and prepare community–based osteopathic physicians in a Christian environment to care for the rural and underserved populations in North Carolina, the Southeastern United States and the nation.
CUSOM faculty, staff and students values: Teamwork, leadership, professionalism, integrity, diversity, and the ethical treatment of all humanity.



http://www.campbell.edu/cusom/about-...urposemission/




they make it sound like they like the southeastern states too. I think if they tried to accept most of their class from NC as well as a 3.2 min, that could be potentially bad.

I'd apply anyways, it's likely they will have a regional preference, but I don't think it will be any more than what other regional DO schools have which is around 50-70% in state. Certainly not TCOM's 90% rule.

Originally Posted by UrshumMurshum

I'd apply anyways, it's likely they will have a regional preference, but I don't think it will be any more than what other regional DO schools have which is around 50-70% in state. Certainly not TCOM's 90% rule.

It's a tough call since it's the only DO school in NC, and we have a like 16 public schools and 35 private schools.

Originally Posted by serenade

The plethora of anecdotes do not create statistics.

The compiled average stats posted in the underdog thread is where I got that information. I then searched further and confirmed those stats for WCU.

Label it what you want, I guess.

Originally Posted by DocFelt

The compiled average stats posted in the underdog thread is where I got that information. I then searched further and confirmed those stats for WCU.

Label it what you want, I guess.

I label it convenience polling.

Originally Posted by NurWollen

Yeah, I am wondering whether or not I should apply. There are so many possible levels of regional bias, it's hard to tell.

You should apply

Originally Posted by ColeSmalls

Mission Statement

The Mission of the Campbell University School of Osteopathic Medicine (CUSOM) is to educate and prepare community–based osteopathic physicians in a Christian environment to care for the rural and underserved populations in North Carolina, the Southeastern United States and the nation.
CUSOM faculty, staff and students values: Teamwork, leadership, professionalism, integrity, diversity, and the ethical treatment of all humanity.



http://www.campbell.edu/cusom/about-...urposemission/



they make it sound like they like the southeastern states too. I think if they tried to accept most of their class from NC as well as a 3.2 min, that could be potentially bad.

what does this mean exactly? i am just curious.