Lincoln Memorial - DeBusk (LMU-DCOM) Discussion Thread 2012 - 2013

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Pertaining to the supplemental application,

If you take a look at the online application versus the pdf file of the app, out of the two essay question there is one that is different? Is this a mistake or just something done on purpose to serve as a variety to the admissions committee?

verify anyone?

I believe lectures are mantaory.

Would be willing to answer rotation or residency questions?

I'm C/O 2012.

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

I believe lectures are mantaory.

Would be willing to answer rotation or residency questions?

I'm C/O 2012.

I was wondering how you feel about the overall rotations, do they give you good education and freedom? How many elective rotations do you get the 4th year?

I was also wondering if there was any traveling involved for clinical. Did a lot of ppl have to relocate to get good education or is it all fairly close?

Not sure I feel about having to move during med school but you got to do what you got to do.
Thanks

Originally Posted by hmania

Pertaining to the supplemental application,

If you take a look at the online application versus the pdf file of the app, out of the two essay question there is one that is different? Is this a mistake or just something done on purpose to serve as a variety to the admissions committee?

verify anyone?

can anyone answer this?!

Originally Posted by hmania

can anyone answer this?!

They usually don't change the essay questions. If you haven't filled it out yet, call Janette tom. If you have, I wouldn't worry about it. They aren't anal retentive about this sort of stuff and would accept it (if it's their fault).

Anybody know where I can find a match list?

Originally Posted by hopefulMD9

Anybody know where I can find a match list?

http://www.lmunet.edu/dcom/

Green box on bottom left hand side of the home page always contains the most current match list(s).

Originally Posted by aburnet2

I was wondering how you feel about the overall rotations, do they give you good education and freedom? How many elective rotations do you get the 4th year?

I was also wondering if there was any traveling involved for clinical. Did a lot of ppl have to relocate to get good education or is it all fairly close?

Not sure I feel about having to move during med school but you got to do what you got to do.
Thanks

Rotations are solid if you do alot of work. Several of the CORE sites are good while others are not good. You will have plenty of time to do rotations at both programs you want to go to or in geographic locations you want to go. They are increasing the class size significantly so I believe that may adversely affect rotations for a couple years but they will continue to find solid places to rotate.

What's considered a "short essay"? 2 paragraphs? 1?

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

Rotations are solid if you do alot of work. Several of the CORE sites are good while others are not good. You will have plenty of time to do rotations at both programs you want to go to or in geographic locations you want to go. They are increasing the class size significantly so I believe that may adversely affect rotations for a couple years but they will continue to find solid places to rotate.

Do you know roughly how many more seats they're adding?

Originally Posted by UrshumMurshum

Do you know roughly how many more seats they're adding?

The seat addition began with the class of 2016. 75 new seats were added for a total of 225.

Originally Posted by Gsun88

What's considered a "short essay"? 2 paragraphs? 1?

The essays don't need to be long. I believe I had 1 page double-spaced and 3/4 for the second. You should be fine with 2 or 3 paragraphs. Just don't try to make a long, impressive essay full of smoke. They'll probably have read 50 before yours, so keep it concise, interesting, and sincere. Good luck!

Originally Posted by OrangeRoost

The essays don't need to be long. I believe I had 1 page double-spaced and 3/4 for the second. You should be fine with 2 or 3 paragraphs. Just don't try to make a long, impressive essay full of smoke. They'll probably have read 50 before yours, so keep it concise, interesting, and sincere. Good luck!

Thanks!!

Get to the point.... hmm seems to be a reoccurring theme lol.

I keep hearing rumors that LMU DCOM is regionally biased. What do you guys think?

Originally Posted by hopefulMD9

I keep hearing rumors that LMU DCOM is regionally biased. What do you guys think?

There may be a slight bias for those in underserved regions of Appalachian region (the AACOM CIB has more info on it) but it won't be a dealbreaker if you aren't from this area. I did read somewhere that most DCOM students are from TN or the surrounding states but that may be because DCOM receives more applications (hence more acceptances) from such areas. If you look at the facebook group for the C/O 2016 you'll see there are quite a few people from various parts of the country.

Originally Posted by itsokimadoctor

There may be a slight bias for those in underserved regions of Appalachian region (the AACOM CIB has more info on it) but it won't be a dealbreaker if you aren't from this area. I did read somewhere that most DCOM students are from TN or the surrounding states but that may be because DCOM receives more applications (hence more acceptances) from such areas. If you look at the facebook group for the C/O 2016 you'll see there are quite a few people from various parts of the country.

Thats what I want to hear! This school is a top choice for me!

Just submitted my application! So excited!

I have a question for any current students - did any of you come to LMU from more metropolitan areas? I grew up in rural Tennessee, but I've lived the past decade-ish in NYC and Atlanta. I am definitely looking forward to relocating to a less metro environment, but I'm wondering if anyone can speak to their adjustment?

Thank you!!

Originally Posted by hopefulMD9

Thats what I want to hear! This school is a top choice for me!

Yeah, at my interview I did notice a lot of people from the surrounding states, but I did see a few Californias. I'm from Chicago and could not be more excited to move down to this beautiful area Good luck to all applicants! DCOM makes the interview day as fun and as stress-free as possible.

Originally Posted by itsokimadoctor

There may be a slight bias for those in underserved regions of Appalachian region (the AACOM CIB has more info on it) but it won't be a dealbreaker if you aren't from this area. I did read somewhere that most DCOM students are from TN or the surrounding states but that may be because DCOM receives more applications (hence more acceptances) from such areas. If you look at the facebook group for the C/O 2016 you'll see there are quite a few people from various parts of the country.

Plenty of people from out of state/out of Appalachia in my c/o 2012. You should think about it in 2 ways:
1) A school will get the most applications from areas close to their school.
2) If there are two similar applications (which happens often) then the student from appalachia may get the nod due to the mission, but then again its all about the interiew isnt it?

I was filling out the secondary to send it in tonight but noticed on the website that they start taking supplemental apps on july 1st. Anybody submit the secondary yet?

Anyone wanna read over my first essay for the LMU secondary and give some feedback? TBH, I think it sucks so I need input!

Originally Posted by spacetomatoes

Just submitted my application! So excited!

I have a question for any current students - did any of you come to LMU from more metropolitan areas? I grew up in rural Tennessee, but I've lived the past decade-ish in NYC and Atlanta. I am definitely looking forward to relocating to a less metro environment, but I'm wondering if anyone can speak to their adjustment?

Thank you!!

I'm WL at LMU currently and am attending their post bacc if I don't get in. I'm from CA (huge town) so you won't be alone. Lots of ppl from Chicago etc when I was there!

I know LMU says that you can send your secondary after filling out the primary, but what do we put for LMU ID# in the secondary? Since we haven't received an ID from them yet.

Originally Posted by docmayer

Anyone wanna read over my first essay for the LMU secondary and give some feedback? TBH, I think it sucks so I need input!

I'll look over it and give you my opinion

Originally Posted by kmulo

I know LMU says that you can send your secondary after filling out the primary, but what do we put for LMU ID# in the secondary? Since we haven't received an ID from them yet.

I don't believe I put anything in that section when I applied. You don't have a LMU ID# yet. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by hopefulMD9

I was filling out the secondary to send it in tonight but noticed on the website that they start taking supplemental apps on july 1st. Anybody submit the secondary yet?

I know several who have. I'm sure it won't change.

Originally Posted by kmulo

I know LMU says that you can send your secondary after filling out the primary, but what do we put for LMU ID# in the secondary? Since we haven't received an ID from them yet.

Just leave it blank - they assign you an ID, I believe, when they receive your first piece of paperwork but if they haven't sent it to you yet then you're not expected to know it. I left it blank.

Just submitted my secondary. Anybody send in their LOR's yet?

Im excited to apply here! Its my second choice behind WVSOM. I am also from a metro area (Las Vegas) and really want to relocate to a small area with lots of outdoors activities which LMU seems to be! My GPA is below there average (3.25c/3.0s) but my MCAT is ok (26). I have a lot of EC including published clinical research, ER Scribe, international medical programs and President of Pre-SOMA. Im hoping this will help to offset my GPA. Any current students out there have any thoughts?

Originally Posted by MADNEMO

Im excited to apply here! Its my second choice behind WVSOM. I am also from a metro area (Las Vegas) and really want to relocate to a small area with lots of outdoors activities which LMU seems to be! My GPA is below there average (3.25c/3.0s) but my MCAT is ok (26). I have a lot of EC including published clinical research, ER Scribe, international medical programs and President of Pre-SOMA. Im hoping this will help to offset my GPA. Any current students out there have any thoughts?

Your ECs will go a long way here. Apply early!!!

Should I bother submitting the supplementary before I get my MCAT score? I won't get it until end of July...
Technically, the website says step 2: supplementary application (which includes a section on MCAT score), but step 3 is submitting the official MCAT score.

Originally Posted by CopToEM

Your ECs will go a long way here. Apply early!!!

My app is done and Verified! I'm sending my letters this week so I'll be complete before July. Should I wait for an invite for the secondary or just submit one on my own?

Originally Posted by hopefulMD9

Just submitted my secondary. Anybody send in their LOR's yet?

Actually I'm still waiting for aacomas to release my primary to schools. It was released as of 6/14 but then I guess aacomas changed their mind with a bunch of us and they are postponing the release for some reason. So in other words I haven't been able to do secondaries yet.

Originally Posted by MADNEMO

My app is done and Verified! I'm sending my letters this week so I'll be complete before July. Should I wait for an invite for the secondary or just submit one on my own?

Last year the website said (verify that it still says) to go ahead and submit the secondary upon completion of the primary. I would recommend that competitive applicants do so if that's still what they say. If you feel like you're not competitive it may be better to wait on the invite rather than toss $75 (obviously null and void if $$$ isn't an issue).

In your case - I'd submit secondary.

Originally Posted by CopToEM

Last year the website said (verify that it still says) to go ahead and submit the secondary upon completion of the primary. I would recommend that competitive applicants do so if that's still what they say. If you feel like you're not competitive it may be better to wait on the invite rather than toss $75 (obviously null and void if $$$ isn't an issue).

In your case - I'd submit secondary.

Thanks. Will start working on it tomorrow!

you know just so you guys know, i spoke with an admissions counselor here and they said they'd "PREFER" us to wait until july 1, because they won't even have a file downloaded from us. i was ready to go june 1 but not only did they change the secondary a bit, but they really recommended i submit july 1.

Originally Posted by docmayer

Anyone wanna read over my first essay for the LMU secondary and give some feedback? TBH, I think it sucks so I need input!

I'd like to look it over. it seems like these two questions are kind of open ended, as long as you make it personal and meaningful you should be fine.

Does admissions actually read these essays. 90% of the questions asked on these secondaries were already covered on the primary. It's seems like all that these secondary applications are are merely remnants of original medical school applications before aacomas and aamc existed, but schools still want to give them out. I don't know, just ranting.

Originally Posted by DrRichand1

I'd like to look it over. it seems like these two questions are kind of open ended, as long as you make it personal and meaningful you should be fine.

Does admissions actually read these essays. 90% of the questions asked on these secondaries were already covered on the primary. It's seems like all that these secondary applications are are merely remnants of original medical school applications before aacomas and aamc existed, but schools still want to give them out. I don't know, just ranting.

An additional way to squeeze another 50 bucks out of us? Absolutely. Another hoop to jump through none the less....

You are so right, it is another hoop to jump through. I think LMU actually uses them though, as opposed to other schools that you literally just pay the money.

So had anybody submitted both the secondary and LOR's yet? I tried to submit it online but I couldnt so I just printed out the PDF and filled it out, thinking about mailing it in the AM. Should get there soon since I live in Harrogate. I also just sent in my LOR's

I submitted the secondary online and my LOR's via Interfolio over a week ago.

if any Canadians are applying
im willing to help!

just drop an email

goodluck to you all

Originally Posted by blackey

I submitted the secondary online and my LOR's via Interfolio over a week ago.

I think my pre-med advisor sent out all my LORs nearly a month ago. Any ideas what schools will do with LORs before they even have primary apps?

They'll probably create a file for you. I'm sure it won't be a problem.

do you guys mind sharing secondary questions?

Originally Posted by angldrps

do you guys mind sharing secondary questions?

Check the secondary thread. They are in there.

Anyone else have trouble submitting the secondary? First I had browser text-box editing problems where it would delete my essays and when I finally got it to work it said I needed an account to log in.

What gives... Hearing that other people submitted already without an email specifically about the supplemental makes me frustrated now that I can't submit it!

I submitted last monday and it was fine....

You guys double or single space your essays?

Single