No movement today...?
I'm in a really similar situation to you, MD applicant with 22x and 24x steps. Applied 62, I have 4 total interviews, two from rotations, 6 waitlists that I know of so far, 18 rejections, and 34 left to hear from. I had 2 sloes in early but I didn't get a third letter until November. I also applied heavily to east coast and south. I've emailed pretty much all my programs with a few wait list confirmations or thank yous but silence from a lot. Hopefully we both see some movement, but the only other thing to do while you wait would be to start applying to some prelim programs as a back up. I know at least 3 other people who are good applicants in similar situations. We'll see how December goes I guess.
I disagree. I can't argue you with that having high Step 1 scores is obviously favorable, however I know TONS of applicants with less than 230s who have lots of great interviews (places I would dream to interview at). At the end of the day, the SLOE is all mighty in EM. It will either make or break you. A low step 1 score is very, very easily overlooked with a Top 1/3 or Honors on a SLOE and some sexy comments to go along with it.Another thing I think is since EM has gotten so competitive, if you don't have >230 on step 1 you get left in the dust a bit.
This right here, I know several applicants who actually have a sub 210 step 1 and are sitting on 10 plus interviews all because they have glowing sloes. They aren't the greatest test takers but they are medically competent as all heck and proved that via their sloes. So yes having high step scores makes the process a little easier...but SLOES in the EM world are the "gold standard"!!I disagree. I can't argue you with that having high Step 1 scores is obviously favorable, however I know TONS of applicants with less than 230s who have lots of great interviews (places I would dream to interview at). At the end of the day, the SLOE is all mighty in EM. It will either make or break you. A low step 1 score is very, very easily overlooked with a Top 1/3 or Honors on a SLOE and some sexy comments to go along with it.
So far from talking to people on the few interviews I've been on, there's a lot of folks that have 15+ interviews and many that are saying they plan on going on ~15 interviews. That mantra of the top 20% of applicants holding 80% of interviews (totally guessing) is probably true. December should throw around movement as they say, but my concern is that people even with way enough interviews will be worried themselves and hold on to their numbers. But I guess we do need to apply to some back up options at this point. Another thing I think is since EM has gotten so competitive, if you don't have >230 on step 1 you get left in the dust a bit.
Totally agree. I applied to 62 places, but they're pretty much all in desirable locations and I'm struggling. I should have applied to more midwest and small town programs.I think it has to do with where you apply to. I have high 220s step 1 and low 230s step 2 DO student. honors at acgme and high pass at aoa rotation. Applied mostly Midwest and I'm sitting on 12 interviews right now
I think your situation is not ideal, but there will probably be movement in the waitlists the next few weeks. Your scores are not the problem. It is probably your delayed SLOES. How were the competitiveness of your applied programs? Were they all on the lines of Indy, vandy, Cincinnati? A <230 USMLE is not a kiss of death, even as a DO applicant. It all just depends on where you apply. A lot of brand new programs and programs that are overlooked due to location.
I got off a silent waitlist onto an interview broker waitlist at Thomas Jefferson today.So are most "waitlist" invites already sent out? Anyone have any info on this?
Many many many programs have silent rejections. While some do have silent waitlists. It's hard to assume, just expect the worst and hope for the best lol.
For my sanity, I'm gonna go ahead and focus on the 3 interviews in January part of your statement and ignore the rest.Nope cousin is a first year em resident. He mentioned how about 25-30 percent of the programs he applied to just never sent him anything, no invite, no waitlist and no formal rejection. He did receive 3 interviews in the first week of January from programs that he had not heard a thing from as well. So just know that many programs do not give you a heads up in either direction. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it is what it is.
How do you know this? Second time through the match?
I have gotten just a few responses out of the many thank-yous I have sent, and I think only once from a PD. It seems common to not hear back.anybody getting responses to thank you emails/cards/post interview responses? my guess is to put little stock in what is said but wanted to see if anyone else had been getting any feedback from PDs/interviewers
Invite from univ Wisconsin today. Only date is next Thursday
Anyone know if UFlorida-Gainesville EM is offering 14 seats this cycle? Site says 8 but heard on interview trail they are opening 6 more seats.
Tried it was given the generic all our spots are full thank you but no thank you response!! Unless you are actually next on the waitlist I don't see it working too often lol.has anyone tried a "i'm in the area and would love to interview" email? I've sent this program a I'm interested but continued radio silence...figure I'm on some waitlist ....any thoughts?
Tried it was given the generic all our spots are full thank you but no thank you response!! Unless you are actually next on the waitlist I don't see it working too often lol.
Hey everyone, will be applying EM next cycle (don't have the greatest app though). What is 1 thing you wished you did differently in applying EM this year?
has anyone tried a "i'm in the area and would love to interview" email? I've sent this program a I'm interested but continued radio silence...figure I'm on some waitlist ....any thoughts?
Sounds exactly like the kind of people I would want to be my future colleagues...I have, I got a couple responses saying"thanks will pass this along to the PD" and one who told me "thanks for reaching out but we won't be interviewing you, best of luck". Silence from the rest.
Based on what I've heard from a few PD's and many other folks on the trail it does seem like a lot of the top people are sitting on 15, 20, even 30 interviews and not cancelling. I even heard of people with friends who were triple booking interview days.
Based on what I've heard from a few PD's and many other folks on the trail it does seem like a lot of the top people are sitting on 15, 20, even 30 interviews and not cancelling. I even heard of people with friends who were triple booking interview days. It does sound like there is a lot of paranoia and will likely be a lot of movement. The PD's know that the top 20% can't fill all of their slots....hopefully. FWIW a couple places I have interviewed at said they have more invites to send and plan to interview through early Feb.
has anyone tried a "i'm in the area and would love to interview" email? I've sent this program a I'm interested but continued radio silence...figure I'm on some waitlist ....any thoughts?
Should I forego the AOA match (13 invites/ 15 applied) if I have 5 ACGME interview offers?
I would have to concur with this thought. 5 acgme interviews is not a number that I would risk or feel comfortable matching especially as a DO :/ especially when you are pretty much guaranteed a spot in the DO match. But also its your decision and you should do what you feel is the best thing for you.I would say it's risky. You have 13 AOA invites? How do you feel about how your ACGME interviews went? I wouldn't feel comfortable with the ACGME unless I had around 9 interviews at minimum, with 10-12 being ideal. I wouldn't skip out on the AOA match at this point.
Going the ACGME route only puts you at a high risk of not matching. Most AOA programs will be ACGME accredited in the next few years anyway. I wouldn't risk it.Should I forego the AOA match (13 invites/ 15 applied) if I have 5 ACGME interview offers?