2015 International Applicants to Australian Dental Schools

[shim0shim]

Hello everyone,

It seems that no one has began a thread for international students applying to Australian dental schools for the 2015 entry. Is anyone here applying to Australian dental schools? If you are, do you mind sharing what schools you are applying to?




I hope that everyone will contribute, and those who are currently studying in Australia or have gotten accepted can jump in as well.

Thanks guys

---

Members don't see this ad.

 

[skyguy1]

Hey! Im also Canadian, lower GPA (but really good upward trent) than you and am writing the american Dat in June. Im also interested to see what people have to say. Btw why are you applying to those school specificallyÉ

 

[Bottle]

wait .. Australian Dental school require MCAT?

 

[shim0shim]

Hey! Im also Canadian, lower GPA (but really good upward trent) than you and am writing the american Dat in June. Im also interested to see what people have to say. Btw why are you applying to those school specificallyÉ

Thank you for responding! Are you applying to Australian Dental schools this cycle? If you are, do you mind sharing your stats? I am trying to get an idea of what the average stats of international applicants to Australian dental schools are..

Do you recommend any other schools?

 

[shim0shim]

wait .. Australian Dental school require MCAT?

Yes majority of them accept the MCAT or the DAT. Are you applying to Australian schools as well?

 

[Bottle]

Yes majority of them accept the MCAT or the DAT. Are you applying to Australian schools as well?

That's interesting. I'm still in undergrad, but I'm considering Australia and other countries. What made you choose Australia in particular? Also, since you are applying internationally, I heard some UK schools are starting the north american system and accepts applicants from here.

 

[skyguy1]

Thank you for responding! Are you applying to Australian Dental schools this cycle? If you are, do you mind sharing your stats? I am trying to get an idea of what the average stats of international applicants to Australian dental schools are..

Do you recommend any other schools?

Hey, uhm I haven`t really calculated it but its around 3.3-3.4, and I`m taking the DAT soon so hopefully I do really well on that. I was also thinking of university of sydney!

 

[parham3]

Hows the tuition rate there, Im also canadian

 

[Connauton]

Hows the tuition rate there, Im also canadian

Last time I checked, it was just about the same as private US schools (with currency converted)... I may be wrong though!

Keep in mind it'll definitely be a lot more expensive with flights, etc.

I hope to apply if I don't get in anywhere during June 2015's cycle!

 

[shim0shim]

Hows the tuition rate there, Im also canadian

You can check the tuition rates for international students on the school's websites. But, from the research that I have done, it seems to be just a little bit more expensive than the tuition in Canada. Approx. 250k for most schools

 

[shim0shim]

Hey, uhm I haven`t really calculated it but its around 3.3-3.4, and I`m taking the DAT soon so hopefully I do really well on that. I was also thinking of university of sydney!

I was also thinking about University of Sydney. The problem I had with that school, was my MCAT results would come in way after the deadline for the application. So, that mean I would have to wait until the next cycle to apply. That is only if I don't get in this cycle.

 

[shim0shim]

That's interesting. I'm still in undergrad, but I'm considering Australia and other countries. What made you choose Australia in particular? Also, since you are applying internationally, I heard some UK schools are starting the north american system and accepts applicants from here.

That is interesting. Can you please let me know what schools in the UK are doing that?

 

[ty587]

That's interesting. I'm still in undergrad, but I'm considering Australia and other countries. What made you choose Australia in particular? Also, since you are applying internationally, I heard some UK schools are starting the north american system and accepts applicants from here.

I wasn't aware of this...which UK schools are these?

 

[GoldCrown]

I wanted to resurrect this thread to say that I was just accepted to the University of Sydney!

 

[tooth knockn]

I wanted to resurrect this thread to say that I was just accepted to the University of Sydney!

How do you apply to Australia schools?

Is it too late now?

Where do I find info?

 

[GoldCrown]

How do you apply to Australia schools?

Is it too late now?

Where do I find info?

You just have to apply to each school individually. I only applied to the University of Sydney, but I know a number of other schools accept international students including University of Melbourne. Deadlines have passed for this year so it's too late to apply for 2015. Applications open in April and end around June/July. Information can be found on each individual school's website.

 

[tooth knockn]

You just have to apply to each school individually. I only applied to the University of Sydney, but I know a number of other schools accept international students including University of Melbourne. Deadlines have passed for this year so it's too late to apply for 2015. Applications open in April and end around June/July. Information can be found on each individual school's website.

Ok thank you....

Are there specific admission tests required?

 

[Beaux]

-

 

[tooth knockn]

Good to know, and congratulations....

Australia, wow...

Yea it is far., but your cultural experience will be broadened...


4-5 yrs plus, you will be like the only American, you will be the exotic one.

 

[shim0shim]

I received an offer from the University of Sydney as well at the same time as GoldCrown. There aren't any specific tests required beyond having the DAT. It honestly takes a tremendous amount of pressure off this cycle having an acceptance so early, but I would prefer an American school over going down to Australia.

Why do you prefer an American school over Australian?

 

[skyguy1]

Why do you prefer an American school over Australian?

cheaper (most of the time), closer to home, american system is similar to canadas, specializations... lots of reasons...

 

[GoldCrown]

I received an offer from the University of Sydney as well at the same time as GoldCrown. There aren't any specific tests required beyond having the DAT. It honestly takes a tremendous amount of pressure off this cycle having an acceptance so early, but I would prefer an American school over going down to Australia.

Congrats! I feel the exact same way. I'm hoping that I get accepted to a U.S. school in December.

 

[shim0shim]

cheaper (most of the time), closer to home, american system is similar to canadas, specializations... lots of reasons...

There are a lot of points you should consider before considering to go to the US for dental school.

1. Cheaper? No. If you look into the tuition rates for majority of the dental schools in the US for international students, on average, US dental schools are much higher. Especially right now where the USD is insanely high, where as the AUD has been constant for many years and close to CAD. Although living costs in Australia may be a bit high, but it does not override the higher tuition in the US. I have many friends who are close to 400k in debt after graduating from a US dental school compared to around 250k-300k for the Australian counterparts.

2. American system is similar to Canada? If Australian system was not similar to Canada, they would not put into place the reciprocal agreement. The education and the entire system in Australia is the same as Canada's for dental school, hence why Australian dental program is accredited in Canada. An Australian graduate can come to practice in Canada immediately after graduation and the NDEB, (not to mention you can also work in Australia).

3. Specializations - If you complete a specialty course after dental school in the US or Australia, you cannot work as a specialist unless you complete a bridging program. So, either way it is the same.

However, I do have to agree with you on the fact that US is closer to home Not a deal breaker for me though! I recommend going onto the Canadian, Australian and American Dental Association sites and getting some more information before deciding which is the best choice.

 

[skyguy1]

There are a lot of points you should consider before considering to go to the US for dental school.

1. Cheaper? No. If you look into the tuition rates for majority of the dental schools in the US for international students, on average, US dental schools are much higher. Especially right now where the USD is insanely high, where as the AUD has been constant for many years and close to CAD. Although living costs in Australia may be a bit high, but it does not override the higher tuition in the US. I have many friends who are close to 400k in debt after graduating from a US dental school compared to around 250k-300k for the Australian counterparts.

2. American system is similar to Canada? If Australian system was not similar to Canada, they would not put into place the reciprocal agreement. The education and the entire system in Australia is the same as Canada's for dental school, hence why Australian dental program is accredited in Canada. An Australian graduate can come to practice in Canada immediately after graduation and the NDEB, (not to mention you can also work in Australia).

3. Specializations - If you complete a specialty course after dental school in the US or Australia, you cannot work as a specialist unless you complete a bridging program. So, either way it is the same.

However, I do have to agree with you on the fact that US is closer to home Not a deal breaker for me though! I recommend going onto the Canadian, Australian and American Dental Association sites and getting some more information before deciding which is the best choice.

lol i agree with some of ur points, but why did you ask in the first place if u knew the answers to ur questions?

the majority of schools in the US are in fact cheaper than Australia.... Obviously if you live in areas like Boston or New York then you will have high living and tuition costs. U should also factor in the transportation time and cost to home. I went to New Zealand last year and it was a painfully agonizing trip. The agreement between Australia and Canada is only for several years. Im not saying theyll revoke it, but I mean you never know what happens these days. I think its hard to compare them as a whole. It's alot easier if you have specific schools and compare them that way. But I agree with you that they are both very viable options. hopefully well have the opportunity to decide between the two at some point, then it will be a better conversation, best of luck!

 

[brouhaha]

Hi everyone,

I've also applied to a couple of American schools (I'm Canadian) but it's my second time around. I just got an acceptance to the University of Sydney, and yeah, I'm very relieved to have somewhere to go, but I'm still holding out for an American school. Also, I'm going to apply to Irish schools in the next couple of days. Anyone else planning on doing this?

 

[shim0shim]

lol i agree with some of ur points, but why did you ask in the first place if u knew the answers to ur questions?

the majority of schools in the US are in fact cheaper than Australia.... Obviously if you live in areas like Boston or New York then you will have high living and tuition costs. U should also factor in the transportation time and cost to home. I went to New Zealand last year and it was a painfully agonizing trip. The agreement between Australia and Canada is only for several years. Im not saying theyll revoke it, but I mean you never know what happens these days. I think its hard to compare them as a whole. It's alot easier if you have specific schools and compare them that way. But I agree with you that they are both very viable options. hopefully well have the opportunity to decide between the two at some point, then it will be a better conversation, best of luck!

Hi skyguy1,
I asked because I wanted to see your reasoning behind your point. Besides, that is what this forum is all about

"The agreement between Australia and Canada is only for several years"? That is a strong statement. Do you have a source for this? By contacting both Canadian Dental Association and the Australian Dental Association, you will see that will not happen.

Anyhow, as long as you have done your research( I know I did ) and are happy about you final decision, I wish you the best of luck

p.s. Congratulations to all of us who have already received an acceptance! I am so so excited

 

[Will 8wt2]

I also received an offer from Sydney but would much rather a school in the states. What are you guys going to do? We need to make a pretty hefty deposit + OSHC + Initial payment by the end of September. If we do this and decide to go to states if accepted, do we ONLY lose the deposit?

I received an offer from the University of Sydney as well at the same time as GoldCrown. There aren't any specific tests required beyond having the DAT. It honestly takes a tremendous amount of pressure off this cycle having an acceptance so early, but I would prefer an American school over going down to Australia.

Congrats! I feel the exact same way. I'm hoping that I get accepted to a U.S. school in December.

 

[GoldCrown]

I also received an offer from Sydney but would much rather a school in the states. What are you guys going to do? We need to make a pretty hefty deposit + OSHC + Initial payment by the end of September. If we do this and decide to go to states if accepted, do we ONLY lose the deposit?

I almost fainted when I saw the initial payment! If you look at the terms at the end of the letter though, it says that you get refunded 90% of the initial payment if you withdraw before school starts. I called the school to confirm this. I should've asked whether or not the refund included the OSHC, but I would assume that you would get the full OSHC amount back and lose only 10% of the initial fee. Still, I'm in a huge hurry to get financial aid to secure my spot. I wish they would just ask for a 10% deposit instead of a full semester's worth of tuition!

 

[Beaux]

-

 

[shim0shim]

Talk about biggest deposit ever. 33k! It's a bit silly that they will basically refund everything (AKA, why make us pay such a HUGE deposit in the first place). I guess they want to know that we are serious about accepting our place? Who knows. Better get on it, we have less than a month left to make this happen

Yes, luckily I already had enough funds to pay for the initial deposit and secure my spot and obtain a confirmation of enrollment But I do understand that it can be very challenging for those who dont have the financial means and need to obtain that within the month deadline that they give for internationals!

 

[samiam992]

Do you guys know when JCU sends out acceptances? is it on a rolling basis or are there specific dates?


thanks
Sam

 

[michealbelonelo]

How do we reject offers? I got an early offer from JCU, but recently got an offer to a university closer to state so I don't have to worry about living expenses now.

I think august 30th is the deadline to make the deposit, so would they just void my offer or is there a specific way I can decline.

 

[john216]

seriously, why would you go Aus when you can go American schools even if takes few extra years?
Much better options, great networks, specialization opportunities and much more.

trust me, I have a friend who regrets accepting the offer from Sydney dental, because she later got into US dental in January but couldn't go to US because the class was already starting for Sydney.

 

[shim0shim]

seriously, why would you go Aus when you can go American schools even if takes few extra years?
Much better options, great networks, specialization opportunities and much more.

trust me, I have a friend who regrets accepting the offer from Sydney dental, because she later got into US dental in January but couldn't go to US because the class was already starting for Sydney.

More options, specializations, networks and much more are also offered in Australia. Not sure if you are Canadian or American, but Canadians have an advantage going to Aus for dental school due to the reciprocal agreement between Canada and Australia. But, for the reasons you mentioned above, reasons I mentioned above and many more, Aus is a very viable choice for Canadians! As a Canadian, the only reason that would push me to go to a US school is to be closer to home, but that is not a deal breaker for me!

Your friend's story is very interesting, not heard before. I have 8 friends currently in Aus studying dentistry, and they absolutely love it with no regrets! In fact, 5 of them want to stay there and practice there are 40 canadians JUST in the school I got accepted to.

Bottom line, do what is best for you and what you think is right for you. Although both are fairly viable choices, most of us Canadians know which is the most viable choice for us.

 

[shim0shim]

How do we reject offers? I got an early offer from JCU, but recently got an offer to a university closer to state so I don't have to worry about living expenses now.

I think august 30th is the deadline to make the deposit, so would they just void my offer or is there a specific way I can decline.

You simply do not send the initial deposit and forms until the deadline, and your acceptance will lapse.

 

[Dent-Eng]

Hi everyone,

I've also applied to a couple of American schools (I'm Canadian) but it's my second time around. I just got an acceptance to the University of Sydney, and yeah, I'm very relieved to have somewhere to go, but I'm still holding out for an American school. Also, I'm going to apply to Irish schools in the next couple of days. Anyone else planning on doing this?

I got an offer from Sydney too but haven't applied to Canada or US yet and thinking about Ireland. Do you have any idea if the application timeline in ireland is similar to Canada or is admission rolling?
Also does anyone have experience with declining offers and reapplying to the same school the next year? (Particularly with the University of Sydney) I'm afraid declining might somehow blacklist you or imply a lack of interest.

 

[samiam992]

I got an offer from Sydney too but haven't applied to Canada or US yet and thinking about Ireland. Do you have any idea if the application timeline in ireland is similar to Canada or is admission rolling?
Also does anyone have experience with declining offers and reapplying to the same school the next year? (Particularly with the University of Sydney) I'm afraid declining might somehow blacklist you or imply a lack of interest.

If you are not ready or unsure if you want to go to Australia for dentistry, but don't want to reject your offer, I think you can defer your acceptance until next year

 

[brouhaha]

I got an offer from Sydney too but haven't applied to Canada or US yet and thinking about Ireland. Do you have any idea if the application timeline in ireland is similar to Canada or is admission rolling?
Also does anyone have experience with declining offers and reapplying to the same school the next year? (Particularly with the University of Sydney) I'm afraid declining might somehow blacklist you or imply a lack of interest.

I haven't found a whole lot of info about Ireland so far, but it seems like it's more similar to Canada. It seems like they only start considering international applications sometime in January and admissions offers aren't sent until March or April (this is just what I've found online, I can't say how exact this is or if it's written in stone).

Also, in the Sydney acceptance letter it does seem like you might be able to defer your acceptance. I think I'm definitely going to attend though, especially if I don't hear anything until January from other schools. Let me know what you decide, I'd love to be in touch with someone who's also planning to move down there!

 

[brouhaha]

I almost fainted when I saw the initial payment! If you look at the terms at the end of the letter though, it says that you get refunded 90% of the initial payment if you withdraw before school starts. I called the school to confirm this. I should've asked whether or not the refund included the OSHC, but I would assume that you would get the full OSHC amount back and lose only 10% of the initial fee. Still, I'm in a huge hurry to get financial aid to secure my spot. I wish they would just ask for a 10% deposit instead of a full semester's worth of tuition!

I don't know if you guys applied directly, but I applied through OzTrekk and they informed me that if you don’t have the 30K up front, you can ask to be considered as an international loan status student. So I wrote them a short letter, OzTrekk sent it through for me, and within a week I was issued another acceptance letter but now I only have to pay about $3500+ insurance. Everything else is due when classes begin in February.

So if anyone is struggling with getting their loans sorted out right now, this is an option. Keep in mind if you pay with a student line of credit, and end up withdrawing, not only will you lose 10% but all the interest that will be collected on your initial deposit.

 

[Will 8wt2]

This is exactly what I did too!

It's nice of them to give us this option

I don't know if you guys applied directly, but I applied through OzTrekk and they informed me that if you don’t have the 30K up front, you can ask to be considered as an international loan status student. So I wrote them a short letter, OzTrekk sent it through for me, and within a week I was issued another acceptance letter but now I only have to pay about $3500+ insurance. Everything else is due when classes begin in February.

So if anyone is struggling with getting their loans sorted out right now, this is an option. Keep in mind if you pay with a student line of credit, and end up withdrawing, not only will you lose 10% but all the interest that will be collected on your initial deposit.

 

[JohnTran1]

.

 

[1King2]

This topic is very interesting as I have family in Australia. What were your gpa/dat scores if you got into Sydney or Melbourne dental school if you don't mind me asking?

Hope to get some answers, especially from those who attended undergrad in the United States.

 

[UniqueMS]

Hey Guys.... I got my acceptance to Sydney Dental for starting class of 2015 as well. So excited to get started, always wanted to see Australia and its a plus to me to get to do dental there. How many of you applied through Oztrekk? I agree the initial deposit is steep but if you get the consideration for international student loan status I believe it is only 5% or 10% of the deposit + OSHC.

Congrats to all who got accepted so far and for those who haven't yet don't give up

 

[shim0shim]

Also, if you think you are able to pay the entire deposit a bit after the deadline, you can request an extension for the deadline, and they will give you an additional month They are very friendly and flexible!

Congratulations to everyone who got into an Australian dental school!! I am very excited for all of us and cannot wait to begin!

 

[mikenod454]

Anyone else get into JCU or is it just shim?
What were your stats?


thanks

 

[releigh11]

Question. If you apply and are accepted into an Australian Dental School is it hard to come back and practice in the US? Is there an agreement of some type that you can practice in both countries/

 

[mikenod454]

Question. If you apply and are accepted into an Australian Dental School is it hard to come back and practice in the US? Is there an agreement of some type that you can practice in both countries/

from what I know the agreement is only between Canada and USA, from other posts i've read that if you want to practice dentistry in us, it's best to go to a us school. You can contact US licensing board for more info

 

[sarahsam88]

I wasn't aware of this...which UK schools are these?

I know that Canada formed an agreement with Ireland in 2012 and ireland dental graduates can practice in canada like US or Australian graduates. University College Cork in Ireland is an example.

 

[mikenod454]

I know that Canada formed an agreement with Ireland in 2012 and ireland dental graduates can practice in canada like US or Australian graduates. University College Cork in Ireland is an example.

be cautious though, only schools in ireland apply, those in the united kingdom are not included.

 

[datjapman]

Is there a Facebook group for USyd C/O 2019 that has been made? My gf just got accepted as well! I am hoping to get in next year xD