Hello,
I am submitting this for my pre-doctoral intern coworker and not for myself.
We are both pre-doctoral CAPIC interns in the LA area. She has a 3.89 GPA, was never in academic or ethical trouble. She took a 1 year LOA after the economy busted to help save her parents house. Legitimately, she's not one of those grad cases of BPD where the school is giving her chance after chance but her Borderline-ness keeps her in some kind of victim state. She really just has one problem.
Her problem here is dissertation progress. La Verne apparently has an 8 year time limit for completing the PsyD and she has just reached that limit in December. Yeah, it's her fault for not getting it on time, and she was not a great pro-active communicator with her dissertation chair. However, her dissertation chair also happens to be her academic advisor, and the program director, and sits on the appeals committee for her schools academic dismissal-related matters.
So we have a 3.89 GPA student who has been offered to stay on as a post-doc at our site, is an EXCELLENT assessment intern and has no history of academic worry, that La Verne now wants to dismiss permanently in the home stretch of her time in school. I just feel so bad for this girl that even I lose sleep over it.
Recently, she went to her 1st hearing for reinstatement, and her advisor/chair-dude denied her and said he did not support her reinstatement. Then, at the appeals, the appeals also did not support her reinstatement. It's just down to the provost of the school now. However, let's face it, I'm affraid the school has already decided and that the provost's denial is just going to be a formality. He won't even consider it. Seems like a real buddy-buddy system at the school. I'm worried that her chair/advisor guy has been wearing too many hats and has a bit too much pull at that school. In addition, he has done relatively minimal on his end considering he wears so many hats. He sent her a total of one email in December, letting her know of her upcoming pending status. He has not contacted our agency, ever, regarding the matter, nor had he reached out in ANY capacity, advisor, chair, or other, regarding what she SHOULD do. He's basically just washed his hands of her. Our entire agency and group of psychologist/supervisors support our intern here. We all know she's a terrific clinician. We've all submitted letters on her behalf for her last appeal,which mattered not one bit during the appeal.
I have suggested to the intern that she get a lawyer that specializes in administrative law and academic matters. In addition, they won't provide her an answer for why the appeal was rejected, and while her chair has told her she may pick up the appeal papers at any time, the admin office says this is against policy and that the only way to look at her file is to request a time to come look at her file and anything in it in person. I have strongly recommended she do this and transcribe exactly what the appeal has said. That and lawyer up. I really believe that at this point, the school has already pegged her as a submissive little girl that will just accept her dismissal without batting a lash. I have strongly encouraged her to get ready to make this litigious, and even before it gets to that, having a lawyer you use for correspondence can at least show the school that you're ready to make things hard for them.
Behaviorally, I believe the response effort required by the provost to simply uphold the appeal's decision to dismiss her is very low compared to the effort required for him to investigate the matter, meet with her, and drum up some compassion to give her another shot. That is, it does not look good for her at this point, IMHO. That + them all being pretty buddy buddy leaves me to believe that hearing from a lawyer will let the school know that intern just wants a reinstatement to finish her dissertation and move on, and not trouble.
I know we've heard bad stories about dismissals before, but have you ever heard of anyone being dismissed who's done with their coursework, more than halfway done with their pre-doc internship, ready to begin their post-doc, done with comps, and just has dissertation to go, which even that is halfway done?
Opinions? Other advice for her? Know any particular California, WASC or APA policies/legal codes I may be able to better understand? It's all so appreciated. Thank you so much.
I am submitting this for my pre-doctoral intern coworker and not for myself.
We are both pre-doctoral CAPIC interns in the LA area. She has a 3.89 GPA, was never in academic or ethical trouble. She took a 1 year LOA after the economy busted to help save her parents house. Legitimately, she's not one of those grad cases of BPD where the school is giving her chance after chance but her Borderline-ness keeps her in some kind of victim state. She really just has one problem.
Her problem here is dissertation progress. La Verne apparently has an 8 year time limit for completing the PsyD and she has just reached that limit in December. Yeah, it's her fault for not getting it on time, and she was not a great pro-active communicator with her dissertation chair. However, her dissertation chair also happens to be her academic advisor, and the program director, and sits on the appeals committee for her schools academic dismissal-related matters.
So we have a 3.89 GPA student who has been offered to stay on as a post-doc at our site, is an EXCELLENT assessment intern and has no history of academic worry, that La Verne now wants to dismiss permanently in the home stretch of her time in school. I just feel so bad for this girl that even I lose sleep over it.
Recently, she went to her 1st hearing for reinstatement, and her advisor/chair-dude denied her and said he did not support her reinstatement. Then, at the appeals, the appeals also did not support her reinstatement. It's just down to the provost of the school now. However, let's face it, I'm affraid the school has already decided and that the provost's denial is just going to be a formality. He won't even consider it. Seems like a real buddy-buddy system at the school. I'm worried that her chair/advisor guy has been wearing too many hats and has a bit too much pull at that school. In addition, he has done relatively minimal on his end considering he wears so many hats. He sent her a total of one email in December, letting her know of her upcoming pending status. He has not contacted our agency, ever, regarding the matter, nor had he reached out in ANY capacity, advisor, chair, or other, regarding what she SHOULD do. He's basically just washed his hands of her. Our entire agency and group of psychologist/supervisors support our intern here. We all know she's a terrific clinician. We've all submitted letters on her behalf for her last appeal,which mattered not one bit during the appeal.
I have suggested to the intern that she get a lawyer that specializes in administrative law and academic matters. In addition, they won't provide her an answer for why the appeal was rejected, and while her chair has told her she may pick up the appeal papers at any time, the admin office says this is against policy and that the only way to look at her file is to request a time to come look at her file and anything in it in person. I have strongly recommended she do this and transcribe exactly what the appeal has said. That and lawyer up. I really believe that at this point, the school has already pegged her as a submissive little girl that will just accept her dismissal without batting a lash. I have strongly encouraged her to get ready to make this litigious, and even before it gets to that, having a lawyer you use for correspondence can at least show the school that you're ready to make things hard for them.
Behaviorally, I believe the response effort required by the provost to simply uphold the appeal's decision to dismiss her is very low compared to the effort required for him to investigate the matter, meet with her, and drum up some compassion to give her another shot. That is, it does not look good for her at this point, IMHO. That + them all being pretty buddy buddy leaves me to believe that hearing from a lawyer will let the school know that intern just wants a reinstatement to finish her dissertation and move on, and not trouble.
I know we've heard bad stories about dismissals before, but have you ever heard of anyone being dismissed who's done with their coursework, more than halfway done with their pre-doc internship, ready to begin their post-doc, done with comps, and just has dissertation to go, which even that is halfway done?
Opinions? Other advice for her? Know any particular California, WASC or APA policies/legal codes I may be able to better understand? It's all so appreciated. Thank you so much.
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