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I'm a first year OMS and was wondering what it takes to get a residency spot at a good allo Internal Med residency. Anyone have any experience with this application process?
From what I've heard, at this point focus on 2 things:
1) Taking and doing well on the USMLE (Step 1 & 2CK)
-This requires working hard in the first 2 years to get the material down
2) Doing research when you get a chance
I interviewed at all ACGME IM programs and a lot of interviewers commented that my research was helpful in my application.
Research can only help you. I don't know why this question keeps coming up. Sure you can match without it, but why not do everything you can to maximize your chances?
There are ACGME IM programs that will accept only COMLEX. Again, taking and doing well on USMLE Step 1 is going to be the #1 thing you can do to help yourself
I'm a first year OMS and was wondering what it takes to get a residency spot at a good allo Internal Med residency. Anyone have any experience with this application process?
What kind of research did you do. Bench, clinical, etc.?
Did you guys who head to these interviews meet a lot of carib students from say Ross or SGU along the way or was it mostly folks from DO programs and MDs here in the States?
At my Umass, Drexel, Downstate interviews, I am the only DO candidate,and met many Caribbean candidates.
Yeah, according to NRMP match data, a larger percentage of IM residency programs interview and rank US IMG grads as opposed to osteopathic grads. So it's really no surprise there. People can say that things are going to get worse for US IMGs, but that's all hearsay and speculation. For now, things look roughly equal.
Except for the fact that there are 13,000 IMGs participating in the ACGME match, and only about 2000 DOs.
The IMGs you see on interviews are probably 20+ usmle points above you, so not exactly equal.
Now as far as "things getting worse for IMGs", that is just SDN nonsense. Those same people seem to think it will get easier for DOs, which is also pure and utter nonsense.
Lol, 85% vs 82%.Yeah, according to NRMP match data, a larger percentage of IM residency programs interview and rank US IMG grads as opposed to osteopathic grads. So it's really no surprise there. People can say that things are going to get worse for US IMGs, but that's all hearsay and speculation. For now, things look roughly equal.
Yeah, I see mostly osteopathic grads trying to blow up the notion that "things are getting worse with IMGs and better for DOs." How convenient? The way I look at it (supported to NRMP data and match lists):
USMD>>>>>>>USDO>SGU
as opposed to
USMD>USDO>>>>>>>>>>>Carib MD
Not just any rambling premed but a premed that has constantly barraged threads with the notion that US IMG>>>>>>>US DO.No. These are the ramblings of a premed.
previous university program acgme 4th year chief IM resident.
1) DO vs carib at University programs is a highly program specific thing. Some programs like one versus the other or dont care. My program favored DOs more but we have the occasional carib. The reason you may or may not see many DO or IMG residents is because programs frequently hold "IMG days" and DOs may get lumped there or with the US MD students
2) ACGME IM is getting more competitive but there are tons of programs that are "DO friendly". Just apply broadly to university program. Research is not mandatory but certainly helps. I think scores and letters make a big difference.
3) There are upper tier IM programs with rare DOs as well but these are exceedingly few. Even i f you graduate from a drexel or commonwealth you probably dont have much shot at these programs.
4) Plenty of good university programs dont care if you took USMLE or not. If you are getting sub 220 on your practices dont do it.
in other words a "premed" with a personal vested interest in img's/sgu/caribbean schools
Guys, we need to start telling these people who dont listen to facts to just go to SGU. It will save us time, and IF this dildo actually has a DO acceptance, which i really doubt, it will open up a seat for a much better student.
Lol I have multiple DO acceptances dude. It's not that absurd I'm considering SGU over DO. I know several people that have.
Lol I have multiple DO acceptances dude. It would have been completely ridiculous if o didn't get into one given my stats. And It's not that absurd I'm considering SGU over DO. I know several people that have. You just don't know those types of ppl obviously
Lol I have multiple DO acceptances dude. It would have been completely ridiculous if o didn't get into one given my stats. And It's not that absurd I'm considering SGU over DO. I know several people that have. You just don't know those types of ppl obviously
Guys, we need to start telling these people who dont listen to facts to just go to SGU. It will save us time, and IF this dildo actually has a DO acceptance, which i really doubt, it will open up a seat for a much better student.
But seriously. Please go to the carib.
Good advice. Right up there with
- run with scissors
- Tell your wife the truth if she asks you if she looks fat in that dress
- pick up that sketchy hitch-hiker on the side of the road
Good advice. Right up there with
- run with scissors
- Tell your wife the truth if she asks you if she looks fat in that dress
- pick up that sketchy hitch-hiker on the side of the road
Lolz. I know but hey, I'm just trying to limit my competition when it comes time to apply for residency. People always ask for advice on these forums and it's always in one ear and out the other. In cases such as this one, just tell them what they want to hear/read.
So OP...
PLEASEEE go to the carib.
You'll be a neurosurgeon in no time and you get to drink amazing coconut water and live on the beach bro!
I'm the OP brah, my thread got hijacked by that twit
There's literally 5 times more IMGs competing for a given position than DOs. Of course IM programs are going to interview more IMGs.Yeah, according to NRMP match data, a larger percentage of IM residency programs interview and rank US IMG grads as opposed to osteopathic grads. So it's really no surprise there. People can say that things are going to get worse for US IMGs, but that's all hearsay and speculation. For now, things look roughly equal.
Only about 1 in 5 DOs goes into FM.^^^ Plus, aren't the majority of DOs going into FM...?