An MD after a DO school?

[BubbaGump187]

Ok so I know that there is no reason to be ashamed of a DO degree. In fact knowing OMM is a great help. BUT for all practical purposes its good to have the MD as well just to put there for the sake of the name u know.

So since the name of the degree will not change, is there a way to get "MD, DO" legally after graduating from a DO school?

1: transfer from DO school to MD school...this seems very hard.
2: Are there any programs out there ? I read UHSA had one.
3: Does sitting in for USMLE and graduating from allopathic residency have any connection?
4: Any other way?

Thanks any input would be appreciated!

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[spicedmanna]

Ok so I know that there is no reason to be ashamed of a DO degree. In fact knowing OMM is a great help. BUT for all practical purposes its good to have the MD as well just to put there for the sake of the name u know.

So since the name of the degree will not change, is there a way to get "MD, DO" legally after graduating from a DO school?

Not really. If you graduate from a COM, you will receive a doctorate of osteopathic medicine and receive the designation "DO" after your name. You are an osteopathic physician.

1: transfer from DO school to MD school...this seems very hard.

Beyond hard. I wouldn't even attempt this unless you have a compelling reason, and "I really wanted an MD, but couldn't get accepted into one initially, so I had to settle for a DO school," isn't a valid one.

2: Are there any programs out there ? I read UHSA had one.

I heard something about that, too, but don't know anything about that, so I can't comment.

3: Does sitting in for USMLE and graduating from allopathic residency have any connection?

Nope.

4: Any other way?

Yup. Instead of attending an osteopathic medical school, wait another year, improve your application, apply to an allopathic medical school, get accepted, matriculate into one, and graduate with an MD degree. That's the best way, in my opinion. Don't settle for a degree you don't actually want. If an MD degree is what you really want, then my suggestion is to do what it takes to attend and graduate from an allopathic medical school.

 

[HarveyCushing]

Ok so I know that there is no reason to be ashamed of a DO degree. In fact knowing OMM is a great help. BUT for all practical purposes its good to have the MD as well just to put there for the sake of the name u know.

So since the name of the degree will not change, is there a way to get "MD, DO" legally after graduating from a DO school?

1: transfer from DO school to MD school...this seems very hard.
2: Are there any programs out there ? I read UHSA had one.
3: Does sitting in for USMLE and graduating from allopathic residency have any connection?
4: Any other way?

Thanks any input would be appreciated!

I hear that in California you can switch your DO degree into an MD for $85.

 

[droberge]

I hear that in California you can switch your DO degree into an MD for $85.

I know that this was done back in the 60's when the state of California tried to merge the 2 professions. However, it obviously failed since California is a state which has many DO"s. I do not know if they will still confer an "honorary" MD degree for DO degree holders.

 

[HarveyCushing]

I know that this was done back in the 60's when the state of California tried to merge the 2 professions. However, it obviously failed since California is a state which has many DO"s. I do not know if they will still confer an "honorary" MD degree for DO degree holders.

Sorry, you must have missed my sarcastic internet humor.

 

[elektroshok]

I hear that in California you can switch your DO degree into an MD for $85.

I'll do it for $50

 

[simpleman]

Ok so I know that there is no reason to be ashamed of a DO degree. In fact knowing OMM is a great help. BUT for all practical purposes its good to have the MD as well just to put there for the sake of the name u know.

So since the name of the degree will not change, is there a way to get "MD, DO" legally after graduating from a DO school?

1: transfer from DO school to MD school...this seems very hard.
2: Are there any programs out there ? I read UHSA had one.
3: Does sitting in for USMLE and graduating from allopathic residency have any connection?
4: Any other way?

Thanks any input would be appreciated!

haha!! Here is my input: it is possible, but u gotta do it Carrib style or FMG. For #2 in ur questions, UHSA will offer you online education four all four years, while you are attending your DO education. And you will get the MD. UHSA is considered a foreign school, so you will be considered FMG. You will have to pay 20K each year for that program, plus do their online hw and exams. So thats a 80K extra to your never ending loans. Plus, You are required to participate at least 10-15 hours per week.

I dont know of anyone who did this program, but it seems to be tough trying to handle your own school studies and trying this program along with it.

If I were you, I would just focus on the DO school, take both COMLEX and USMLE, get excellent scores, and get a decent residency and dont worry about it. I have a GI DO physician living next to my door and I can tell you that she didnt face any problems with her road. She is doing very well. You should see her house!!!!

 

[HarveyCushing]

I have a GI DO physician living next to my door and I can tell you that she didnt face any problems with her road. She is doing very well. You should see her house!!!!

OMG!! You totally need to take a picture and show us!!

 

[JaggerPlate]

Sorry, you must have missed my sarcastic internet humor.

The funny this is ... is that in the 60s my grandmother was working as a Nurse and they actually passed something that made all the DOs into MDs and the profession was honestly gone in CA (though I am sure you are aware of this). She expressed to me how absurd this was, and that the DOs she worked with were amazing doctors; and she enjoyed working with them much more than the MDs. I don't really know where I'm going with this, but .... yeah.

 

[TruthMD]

If you truly want an MD, save yourself the trouble and go directly to a Caribbean medical school like SGU or ROSS or SABA or AUC, and get an MD. If you are a US citizen or resident you should have little trouble matching in residency.

Ok so I know that there is no reason to be ashamed of a DO degree. In fact knowing OMM is a great help. BUT for all practical purposes its good to have the MD as well just to put there for the sake of the name u know.

So since the name of the degree will not change, is there a way to get "MD, DO" legally after graduating from a DO school?

1: transfer from DO school to MD school...this seems very hard.
2: Are there any programs out there ? I read UHSA had one.
3: Does sitting in for USMLE and graduating from allopathic residency have any connection?
4: Any other way?

Thanks any input would be appreciated!

 

[BubbaGump187]

Well if you get to stay in the states and can find a way to get a DO from MD the trouble is worth it. Of course doesnt look like thats possible.


But seems like the MD from Carribean wont be very different from the DO in the states. Both have stigma attached.

 

[TruthMD]

That is wrong!!!! They are not the same. Don't fool yourself.

No ONE WILL EVER ASK YOU!!! WHAT IS AN MD!
Rarely do people ask physicians where did you go to school.. tell me tell me.

MD from Carib schools, you do rotations in the states, no one give a $hISA as long as you are not going for Radiology and Surgery at Ivy School.

 

[jason3278]

Is this an honest to God, actual question? Is it just me, or are there a lot of these trollish questions this time of year. If I ever run into someone with a DO and an "MD" from the Eastern Haiti College of Medicine or whatever, I'll be sure to smack him upside the head.

 

[StrengthDoc]

That is wrong!!!! They are not the same. Don't fool yourself.

MD from Carib schools, you do rotations in the states, no one give a $hISA as long as you are not going for Radiology and Surgery at Ivy School.

Right. Why bother even applying in the states when Carib is the same exact thing....




.......to a troll.......


....................................or a tool.

 

[wook]

Ok so I know that there is no reason to be ashamed of a DO degree. In fact knowing OMM is a great help. BUT for all practical purposes its good to have the MD as well just to put there for the sake of the name u know.

So since the name of the degree will not change, is there a way to get "MD, DO" legally after graduating from a DO school?

Yes, it can be done for an addtional $15K or some number like that during your 4th year of med school or intern year.

Me, I'm keeping my $15K as I don't see the utility of this.


Wook

 

[HarveyCushing]

That is wrong!!!! They are not the same. Don't fool yourself.

No ONE WILL EVER ASK YOU!!! WHAT IS AN MD!
Rarely do people ask physicians where did you go to school.. tell me tell me.

MD from Carib schools, you do rotations in the states, no one give a $hISA as long as you are not going for Radiology and Surgery at Ivy School.

If someone wants the MD then the islands might be their best option. However very few people would say that it is better to go to the Carib for school over a school here in America (DO).

 

[HarveyCushing]

Yes, it can be done for an addtional $15K or some number like that during your 4th year of med school or intern year.

Me, I'm keeping my $15K as I don't see the utility of this.


Wook

Your being sarcastic right? In case your not... currently no osteopathic medical school grants the MD degree upon graduation. There is also no conversion factor or ability to "buy" the other degree.

 

[MaximusD]

That is wrong!!!! They are not the same. Don't fool yourself.

No ONE WILL EVER ASK YOU!!! WHAT IS AN MD!
Rarely do people ask physicians where did you go to school.. tell me tell me.

MD from Carib schools, you do rotations in the states, no one give a $hISA as long as you are not going for Radiology and Surgery at Ivy School.

Idiot.

It's not just in perception of your degree... it has to do with receiving the best education. Carib schools can't hold up to the standard of US-DO schools.

 

[MaximusD]

Your being sarcastic right? In case your not... currently no osteopathic medical school grants the MD degree upon graduation. There is also no conversion factor or ability to "buy" the other degree.

Yes there is... through the carib. You can earn an honorary MD for like 20k.

 

[white_n_nerdy]

Your being sarcastic right? In case your not... currently no osteopathic medical school grants the MD degree upon graduation. There is also no conversion factor or ability to "buy" the other degree.

Actually there is a med school in the Caribbean that has an online option for obtaining an MD degree if you a DO student. It runs like 15,000. But, it is weak and a little bit pathetic

 

[HarveyCushing]

Yes there is... through the carib. You can earn an honorary MD for like 20k.

Sorry, I thought wook was talking about here in America.

 

[MaximusD]

Sorry, I thought wook was talking about here in America.

That's OK. I hear that it is frequent that PCOMers must speak slowly so other medical students can understand...

 

[TruthMD]

Idiot.

It's not just in perception of your degree... it has to do with receiving the best education. Carib schools can't hold up to the standard of US-DO schools.

Ok Sure... call me an idiot.
Good luck with starting first year soon.

 

[TruthMD]

Right. Why bother even applying in the states when Carib is the same exact thing....




.......to a troll.......


....................................or a tool.

You are NOW hurting my feelings.
The OPP appears to be more interested in getting an MD degree.

Again, if you too are starting first year soon. Good luck with that. If you got in to TCOM it is one of the best DO schools.

 

[beastmaster]

Right. Why bother even applying in the states when Carib is the same exact thing....




.......to a troll.......


....................................or a tool.

Easy now. If you look at TruthMD's posting history, he transferred from an osteopathic school to a carribean allopathic school. Quite rare. So he's posting from a perspective that you don't have, yet you're insulting him.

Completing 10 years of training for something called a "DO" is the most frightening thing in the world to some people.

 

[spicedmanna]

Alright folks, let's not let this thread decay into flaming, so cool it with the name calling, etc.

As far as I can tell, the OP does appear to want an MD instead of a DO degree. I think that's perfectly fine. I have no judgment about that. In answer to the OP's question, there does appear to be some Caribbean options, as mentioned in the above posts. They appear to be pretty expensive, are of dubious value, and may be fairly time consuming.

While I can understand fear of stigma, misinformation about osteopathic medicine, etc., I have to admit that I find the line of reasoning that considers it okay to attend 4-years of osteopathic medical school to earn a DO degree and then attempt to change it to an MD, to obtain an honorary MD, or other similar nonsense, to be somewhat troubling and unacceptable. I tend to think that it cheapens the value of my education, my profession, and the degree I am going after.

Anyway, I am perfectly happy with the degree I am seeking. However, since the OP may not be, I'd recommend that he or she think hard about attending an osteopathic medical school. It may not be the best fit for what he or she wants. If the OP isn't going to be happy with a DO degree, then it's best, in my opinion, to do what it takes to enter into an allopathic program.

It makes infinitely more sense to me to attend an allopathic program and get that MD degree if that's what is really desired, rather than wasting a lot of time on the wrong track. That's my 2 cents.

 

[StrengthDoc]

Easy now. If you look at TruthMD's posting history, he transferred from an osteopathic school to a carribean allopathic school. Quite rare. So he's posting from a perspective that you don't have, yet you're insulting him.

Completing 10 years of training for something called a "DO" is the most frightening thing in the world to some people.

To be clear, I was commenting on the statement that Carib was the same as US med school because the degree is still MD. This has nothing to do with perspective because there are match statistics that prove it is not the case.

I am a fan of osteopathic training, but that doesn't mean I ignore the fact that it can be more difficult to match into a competitive allopathic residency. People need to decide what is right for them and not try to justify it to others by skewing the facts.

 

[BubbaGump187]

Everyone thanks for replies so far

If anyone can point me to the exact programs where I can add an MD to my DO degree when i finish an osteopathic medical school. I think that paying an extra 20K for it is worth it.

Spicedmanna : I am not saying that the DO degree is any less. In fact I believe it to be superior. The truth is a lot of International schools also have superior training to MD schools in the states. Regardless of that fact, people who train in the US with an MD degree are percieved as doctors. Therefore I see nothing wrong with making my credentials known to other people. By having an additional MD, DO behind my name it will never be a question of who am I but a question of what does DO mean.

To those who say to reapply: there are situational circustances such as time, location, and finances which can affect your ability to reapply.. although some of us want the MD some of us do not have the resources for it and therefore I see nothing wrong in getting the same thing from a DO school.

 

[dantt]

I know it's possible to have both. One of the interviewers at UCDavis this year was an MD/DO but I didn't interview with him.

 

[Dr. Don]

Everyone thanks for replies so far

If anyone can point me to the exact programs where I can add an MD to my DO degree when i finish an osteopathic medical school. I think that paying an extra 20K for it is worth it.

Spicedmanna : I am not saying that the DO degree is any less. In fact I believe it to be superior. The truth is a lot of International schools also have superior training to MD schools in the states. Regardless of that fact, people who train in the US with an MD degree are percieved as doctors. Therefore I see nothing wrong with making my credentials known to other people. By having an additional MD, DO behind my name it will never be a question of who am I but a question of what does DO mean.

To those who say to reapply: there are situational circustances such as time, location, and finances which can affect your ability to reapply.. although some of us want the MD some of us do not have the resources for it and therefore I see nothing wrong in getting the same thing from a DO school.

Eventhough there was a discussion about the possible change of the DO degree to OMD (Osteopathic Medical Doctor) or MD-O (Medical Doctor-Osteopathic), it clearly appears to me that you really want those two initials MD after your name, rather than the ultimate privilige to learn medicine. So do all of us (specially DO students who some day might be your attending or senior resident) a favor and just reapply next year and try to get in to an MD school or go to the caribbean, because in my life specifically,if I ever see a MD, DO who is not over 60-70 years old (the old docs from Cali who got their degrees change) I will literally smack them upside the head and put them on my **** list for life!

 

[cheezer]

just stumbled across this:
http://www.gimbeleyecentre.com/ourdoctors/docs-cshah.html
Chirag Shah, MD, DO, MBBS

this thread is pointless

 

[MaximusD]

TruthMD, I apologize I was really tired. But I will always feel that it is better to get your education from a US-accredited med school before going carib. Personal preference I guess...

 

[Orthodoc40]

Everyone thanks for replies so far

If anyone can point me to the exact programs where I can add an MD to my DO degree when i finish an osteopathic medical school. I think that paying an extra 20K for it is worth it.

Therefore I see nothing wrong with making my credentials known to other people. By having an additional MD, DO behind my name it will never be a question of who am I but a question of what does DO mean.

Well, in time you may come to realize that your credentials WILL be known to other people by having simply DO behind your name.

If you want to waste your $20k, no one's going to stop you. But you might consider over the next 4 years where ELSE you could better spend it...

 

[max831]

That is wrong!!!! They are not the same. Don't fool yourself.

No ONE WILL EVER ASK YOU!!! WHAT IS AN MD!
Rarely do people ask physicians where did you go to school.. tell me tell me.

MD from Carib schools, you do rotations in the states, no one give a $hISA as long as you are not going for Radiology and Surgery at Ivy School.

I question the opinions of someone who (finished?) a year of osteopathic school and then suddenly decided to go carrib, sacrificing a years tuition and time. You say you were in good standing, but nobody is buying that unless of course you want to post your grade reports. My guess is that after failing the year you decided that since you had to repeat anyway you may as well go for the MD, even though when compared to osteo students you will now be 10% less likely to pass the USMLE and 20% less likely to get an allo residency. At least you will have that MD though (should you graduate).

Good luck.

 

[TruthMD]

I question the opinions of someone who (finished?) a year of osteopathic school and then suddenly decided to go carrib, sacrificing a years tuition and time. You say you were in good standing, but nobody is buying that unless of course you want to post your grade reports. My guess is that after failing the year you decided that since you had to repeat anyway you may as well go for the MD, even though when compared to osteo students you will now be 10% less likely to pass the USMLE and 20% less likely to get an allo residency. At least you will have that MD though (should you graduate).

Good luck.

If you say so boss!
1 year compared to lifetime is the difference.

I can't wait to run into your type in the clinic. I will put you in your place so fast, you won't know what hit you.

Just to clarify the DO option is great for some people, but definitely not for me. I have all the respect for most DO training and I am sure they make great primary care physicians, and a few will become specialists. I prefer the traditional teaching of medicine, and can not stand OMT or the like. Again, this may be great for most, but I don't see myself going anywhere near that.

As the OP to the thread... the M.D. after my name will make a huge difference. Dealing with AOA, old fassion brainwashed DOs is another relief. Not having to do two sets of examination and licensing procedures another.

 

[TruthMD]

just stumbled across this:
http://www.gimbeleyecentre.com/ourdoctors/docs-cshah.html
Chirag Shah, MD, DO, MBBS

this thread is pointless

I would like to know how that happened. He started at 18 and at 26 was a surgeon with MBBS/MD and a DO degree + residency.

 

[scpod]

If you want to waste your $20k, no one's going to stop you. But you might consider over the next 4 years where ELSE you could better spend it...

I'll give anyone an MD degree for only $10,000. I'll even buy some really special paper and have some calligraphy done on it. Maybe I'll even put in some pretty pictures and include a nice frame. It'll do just about as much good as going to DO school and buying an MD degree from some place in the Carribean.

For goodness sakes, people! If you want an MD degree...please, go to an MD school! If those little initials are soooooo important to you, then you should never even apply to osteopathic schools. You will NEVER be satisfied. Why on Earth would you be willing to spend $200,000 on an education that will not satisfy you?

 

[Dr. Don]

I question the opinions of someone who (finished?) a year of osteopathic school and then suddenly decided to go carrib, sacrificing a years tuition and time. You say you were in good standing, but nobody is buying that unless of course you want to post your grade reports. My guess is that after failing the year you decided that since you had to repeat anyway you may as well go for the MD, even though when compared to osteo students you will now be 10% less likely to pass the USMLE and 20% less likely to get an allo residency. At least you will have that MD though (should you graduate).

Good luck.

I think you're right

If you say so boss!
1 year compared to lifetime is the difference.

I can't wait to run into your type in the clinic. I will put you in your place so fast, you won't know what hit you.

Just to clarify the DO option is great for some people, but definitely not for me. I have all the respect for most DO training and I am sure they make great primary care physicians, and a few will become specialists. I prefer the traditional teaching of medicine, and can not stand OMT or the like. Again, this may be great for most, but I don't see myself going anywhere near that.

As the OP to the thread... the M.D. after my name will make a huge difference. Dealing with AOA, old fassion brainwashed DOs is another relief. Not having to do two sets of examination and licensing procedures another.

Put who in its place? With your "superior" Caribbean MD training, come on man....even some US allopathic training can't compare with some of the Solid Osteopathic Training programs in the US.....Ultimately though, we will all be physicians and hopefully provide quality health care to those in need!

 

[jonb12997]

I can't believe I just wasted 10 minutes reading this whole thread... good grief!

 

[spicedmanna]

For goodness sakes, people! If you want an MD degree...please, go to an MD school! If those little initials are soooooo important to you, then you should never even apply to osteopathic schools. You will NEVER be satisfied. Why on Earth would you be willing to spend $200,000 on an education that will not satisfy you?

Exactly.

 

[max831]

If you say so boss!
1 year compared to lifetime is the difference

Excellent, you should probably go ahead and get used to calling me boss.

I can't wait to run into your type in the clinic.

This is not likely to happen, as I will be far more likely to end up in a decent residency. Lucky for me I suppose.

I will put you in your place so fast, you won't know what hit you.

With what, your knowledge of Spanish?

Just to clarify the DO option is great for some people, but definitely not for me. I have all the respect for most DO training and I am sure they make great primary care physicians, and a few will become specialists.

If by a few you mean about half, then yes. Perhaps you should take another look at how many Carib grads get specialties or match at all for that matter.

I prefer the traditional teaching of medicine, and can not stand OMT or the like. Again, this may be great for most, but I don't see myself going anywhere near that.

Yes because you failed it.

As the OP to the thread... the M.D. after my name will make a huge difference. Dealing with AOA, old fassion brainwashed DOs is another relief. Not having to do two sets of examination and licensing procedures another.

Finally, no need for Osteo students to take the USMLE, but if they do they are significantly more likely to pass it than any Carib grad You will still have to pass all four years (including your repeat) to get that MD and you will find that unless it is from the US, will still have a silent F in front of it. Perhaps your patients may not know, but everyone who will hire you certainly will. And lets not forget that you are far less likely to get an allo residency than any DO. Again, good luck though.

 

[mshheaddoc]

Finally, no need for Osteo students to take the USMLE, but if they do they are significantly more likely to pass it than any Carib grad You will still have to pass all four years (including your repeat) to get that MD and you will find that unless it is from the US, will still have a silent F in front of it. Perhaps your patients may not know, but everyone who will hire you certainly will. And lets not forget that you are far less likely to get an allo residency than any DO. Again, good luck though.

Actually, this isn't completely true. DO's vs Non-Us schools taking the exam is quite close in percentiles although many more FMG's/IMG's are taking the exam than DO's school. The trend in the past few years is the gap between 1st time DO and FMG's students is getting slightly bigger, not much though.

 

[max831]

Actually, this isn't completely true. DO's vs Non-Us schools taking the exam is quite close in percentiles although many more FMG's/IMG's are taking the exam than DO's school. The trend in the past few years is the gap between 1st time DO and FMG's students is getting slightly bigger, not much though.

I guess if you consider 10% quite close.

 

[mshheaddoc]

I guess if you consider 10% quite close.

73% vs 68% and 77% vs 71% (DO vs FMG) is pretty close if you ask me compared to MD's at 94% and 95% for 2005/6 respectively. And if you go back farther (I only posted 2005/6). 2004 was 70% and 67% for DO's vs FMG's. The trend that 1200+ DO students took it 2005 and 2006 and the percentages went up is a great statistic. Hopefully it will continue to improve. I just don't want people to get the wrong idea that thinking the USMLE is so much easier if you go the DO route. Most DO schools will push you for COMLEX not USMLE and they do focus the test on different subjects. COMLEX is a notoriously horribly written test and I'm hoping that they make some major revamps before I have to take.

Oh and to the OP (I don't know if this was mentioned yet) if one DID try to get a MD after DO, I wonder how the school would take to the fact of when you answer "yes" to have you previously attended medical school.

 

[Hexanol]

i don't understand why you guys are "arguing/debating/talking" about this. Obviously the OP and truthMD don't want to become DO's so just tell them to not apply to DO schools and let them be on their merry way!

DO or not, I will be proud to have a medical education and I hold no stigma or bias from my fellow members of the health field. Yup, that's right! We're all in this for the same reason. So who really cares about the last 2 letters of our names. Why don't we focus on the first 2, Dr., and move on from there. We're all here to be competent and good physicians (primary and specialists). Furthermore, in the REAL world, you will be working with both MDs and DOs who come from various locations. Some FMG, some carribeans, some US Allo, and some US DO. You're gonna have to learn to rely on their abilities and rely on them as physicians. So this whole MD is better than DO thing is quite dumb.

If you don't wanna deal with OMT, then do NOT apply to DO schools. Either way, we are Physicians and I do plan on specializing. And NO, I do NOT feel that because I'm a DO I will be limited in what field I can go into.

 

[mshheaddoc]

just stumbled across this:
http://www.gimbeleyecentre.com/ourdoctors/docs-cshah.html
Chirag Shah, MD, DO, MBBS

this thread is pointless

That makes no sense ...

During medical school at Gujurat University in India and after becoming a doctor and ophthalmic surgeon by the age of 26

Did he go to a dually certified residency here? MD MBBS I'll give him but the DO ... I don't think so.

Maybe its honorary

 

[group_theory]

If you try to obtain an MD from one of the offshore schools after earning your DO degree (and getting your licensed to practice), you will be laughed at (maybe not to your face but behind your back), and people will know you are insecure about yourself. Unless you obtain an MD the traditional way (4 years total, 2 years basic, 2 years clinical), obtaining an MD in any other fashion will be seen as the equivalent of obtaining an MD from a diploma mill.
Might as well get a PhD while you are at it ... since it will look more impressive.


In addition, in some states, the board of medicine (or board of osteopathic medicine) have specific requirements in regards to the use of the post-nominal letters DO or MD when it comes to advertisement (aka your name embroidered on your labcoat/scrub, your business card, your name on your place of business, etc)


PS - foreign countries are also wary of diploma mill MDs so obtaining it might not necessarily gain you additional international practice rights)

 

[GreenShirt]

Everyone thanks for replies so far

If anyone can point me to the exact programs where I can add an MD to my DO degree when i finish an osteopathic medical school. I think that paying an extra 20K for it is worth it.

To those who say to reapply: there are situational circustances such as time, location, and finances which can affect your ability to reapply.. although some of us want the MD some of us do not have the resources for it and therefore I see nothing wrong in getting the same thing from a DO school.

Ummm........so you're willing to pay $20K and spend the extra time down the road to have your degree changed, but you don't want to spend the $5K or less to apply to MD schools now? Carib. schools only require one application fee and you can do a phone interview to save on travel costs. Plus you're only abroad for 2 yrs and then you come back to the US for clinicals.

OP, medicine is clearly not about treating and helping people for you. It's about the respect, prestige and awe you can illicit from people with the magic initials. As many have said, follow your heart and re-apply to MD programs. With a DO degree, all you'll be able to do is practice medicine, which is clearly not going to satiate your shallow soul.

 

[MaximusD]

Kind of harsh, but very true.

Ummm........so you're willing to pay $20K and spend the extra time down the road to have your degree changed, but you don't want to spend the $5K or less to apply to MD schools now? Carib. schools only require one application fee and you can do a phone interview to save on travel costs. Plus you're only abroad for 2 yrs and then you come back to the US for clinicals.

OP, medicine is clearly not about treating and helping people for you. It's about the respect, prestige and awe you can illicit from people with the magic initials. As many have said, follow your heart and re-apply to MD programs. With a DO degree, all you'll be able to do is practice medicine, which is clearly not going to satiate your shallow soul.

 

[Juneau]

That makes no sense ...

Did he go to a dually certified residency here? MD MBBS I'll give him but the DO ... I don't think so.

Maybe its honorary

I am no expert on foreign DO schools, but isn't it possible that this individual completed a DO (manipulation only) school and then went to med school? He is from India.