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Another Name For Male Nurse??

Discussion in 'Clinicians [ RN / NP / PA ]' started by Smittyballz, Apr 17, 2005.

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  1. Smittyballz

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    I Was wondering if there was another name for a male nurse?? Also I was wondering if there is a more proper name for a nurse practitioner that a male could use??
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    I think many male nurses resent being called "male nurses" and not just a nurse, also if there was a name change for males only it would cuase an uproar from female nurses. the term nurse is an ancient name and one that carries positive conotations of caring and professionalism.
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    I'm going to regret this, but I cant help it...

    Male nurse: MURSE

    Male NP: Super MURSE.
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    Smitty- "Nurse" covers it just fine. Most people can identify the sex of a clinician pretty easily.

    Though while we are at it, do you know if there a alternative to "female doctor"?

    David
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    Female: Nurse

    Male: Focker

    :laugh:
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    "Mono-X chromosome patient care specialist"
  7. Great!!
    I love it, too. :love:
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    Physician Assistant. ;)

    j/k

    Good luck with your schooling, whichever path you choose.
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    Male nurses? I usually call them "sir."
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    You guys are so funny.. I take it there is no other name.. although I do like the suggestiions...Thanks so much for the funny answers I wish there was another name like waiter waitress nurse is just very feminine maybe im stereoyping but thats the way I see it. Also anyone know the average salary of a nurse practitioner with their own practice, and how they get paid ;) Thanks so much
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    If that is you in the picture, you can call me "darling!"
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    Lets see here, what have I been called,

    Doctor by all of my old patients after correcting them God-Knows how many times

    Jack-Ass with a good job by all of my friends

    Murse by sister-in-law who can't believe I make as much as I do

    Overpaid by my Father-In-law

    Aaron by everyone I work with
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    hay TusconDDS is that just a name or are u a dentist now, and if u are how did u go from Nursing to Dent, I know Nurse to MD seems logical but Nurse to Dentist is new to me :p
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    I am actually starting dental school in August. I decided on dentistry for quite a few reasons but the main one was that I love my family and I want to spend time with them. You couldn't pay me enough to be a doctor, personally I think that the "good old days of medicine" is long gone. I just hope that the same doesn't happen to dentistry. MD's work very long and hard hours and unfortuneatly don't get the respect or compensation that they deserve anymore. For a pediatric oncologist only to get paid 120K while dealing with the stress, amount of education necessary and all of the red tape that comes with it, it is rediculous. But unfortuneately it is the truth with todays medicine. So far dentistry has been able to keep the insurance monopolies to a minimum and has actually been able to collect more than 30cents on the dollar. Not that everything is about money, but I do feel that fair compensation is necessary for quality work.
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    I really like that comment, thats the reason I decided to matriculate to PA school instead of medical school (applied and got into both)

    My uncle, one of the strongest advocates for "the good old boys club" would scoff at me when I mentioned to him and my med student cousin about going into PA instead of Med school, he said being a doctor and being a PA are totally different, I think he thought a PA didn't "practice medicine"

    After my applications were rolling, and I was mentioning my MCAT scores to him, he had this whole new opinion. He plainly said, Physician assistant huh? the salary of the physician is steadily declining, while the salary of the PA is steadily increasing..........he seemed to support the profession now. I guess he must have worked with a PA who showed him something.

    Being a doctor has lost so much of what used to make it so great, it's become a hassle to practice medicine in many areas ( I am from california, so thats my example) the doctors I know, who have established practices, are slowly eliminating the insurance companies they take from, and are relying on patients that truly love their services to PAY CASH,

    I also know, cardiac rehab nurses in the SF bay area, who must be present at the the rehab facilities, sit at a desk while the exercise physiologist does all the plans/actions, and the nurse bills 50 bucks an hour...... over 100 grand a year to sit and do whatever, is a lot of money.... just goes to show, money doesn't mean job satisfaction. (or why would people be artists and not get anything?)
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    You should realize that as physician reimbursement decreases so to will PA pay. Who do you think pays for the PAs salary in the vast majority of cases? The first stage is to the cut the physicians off at the knees. After that what is stopping them from lowering everyone else in the hospital setting who hasn't spent as much time in the class room or clinical training. Sometimes I feel like people forget that everyone who goes into the healthcare field is in the same boat as physicians because when truth be told everyone is tied to physicians in some way!
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    This reply isn't completely true. Hospitals and clinics will continue to utilize PA's and NP's as much as posible because they do save the hospitals money. Even if it comes down to 10 or 15K between the two many times the hospital will choose to save the money if the two are providing the same level of care. Although this isn't a problem for specialists this is a problem for family practice and general internists and unfortuneatly many times it is the physicians that choose to do so and therefore they are basically shooting themselves in the foot. Also many areas of healthcare are not related to the amound of money that physicians are able to bill. In many hospital settings nurses are paid through the hospital and billed to the patient as part of a "room charge" which is a flat fee for the patients. The physicians who very, very often do not actually work for the hospital will then choose to bill the patient separetly. This provides the hospital more protection from malpractice suits against the physicians. Currently Nurses, NPs and PAs are in pretty short supply and thus the hospitals will continue to raise salaries to staff the beds. MD's unfortunately are not as scarce in many areas of the country (ie major metropolitan areas) and therefor aren't able to set their prices quite as easily.

    Once again let me say that medicine is a very noble profession, it just doesn't get the credit that it deserves anymore.
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    Let me let you in on a secret. If doctors go down, hospitals are going down too because they are both being reimbursed in the same way! Am I missing something here? Aren't hospitals in the same business as physicians? It's not like they are making money off just giving people a bed to sleep in and warm food.

    Therefore if the hospital does not make as much money off of their services due to lowered reimbursement (government, insurance companies, increased cost, etc.), they will not pay as much for those who render the services whether they be nurse, physician, PA, etc.

    What is good for the goose is good for the gander. The opposite holds true as well.
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    I agree that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. But what you are missing is that currently there is a huge shortage for support staff in this country. Nursing makes up the majority of this shortage and with recent legislature limiting nurse/patient ratios and limitting the scope of practice of other ancillary staff like patient care technicians and nursing assistants, registered nurses salaries have only been going up in this country. This is legislature that is being placed by the national government to make hospitals compliant and able to recieve medicare funding. It is a simple supply and demmand exercise and right now the demand is for more nurses, driving salaries up. You can see this first hand by looking at the extraordinary number of Traveling nurses costing hospitals upwards of 60 or 70 dollars an hour. Unfortunately for the hospitals (many of them staffed with 30-40% travellers) this increases their overhead and they must find other ways to cut costs, ie more PAs and NPs. Eventually things will change and there will be a surplus of nurses and the staffing issues will no longer be a problem but until another few hundred thousand nurses enter the job force this will continue to be the case.

    Physicians on the other hand are basically a dime a dozen in the larger cities of this country. Unfortuneately this creates too much of a supply and people can pick and choose who they see based on who takes their insurance plans. This require many doctors to take all plans, including the crappy ones, just to stay busy and have enough patients. This is why physicians in small communities do so much better, they can simply refuse to take an insurance plan and require the patients to pay out of pocket or drive 200 miles to another doctor. What needs to happen to drive the salaries of physicians back up is to start graduating less doctors or the large majority of doctors need to stop accepting insurance plans, but I don't see either happening anytime soon. What these doctors do in order to see the number of patients to stay profitable is utilize more (once again) PAs and NPs. This creates yet another shortage of PAs and NPs driving up their salaries. The american medical society has basically shot themselves in the foot by accepting crappy insurance plans and allowing this to happen. For example, do you know any plumbers that would accept 35 cents on the dollar for what they bill, or bankers that would allow you pay only half the interest that you agreed to on a loan??

    In contrast to what has happenned to medicine, the dental community has been somewhat successful in maintaining a "fee for service" practice. I only hope that this remains the case.
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    If this ever happens, it won't be for decades, for three major reasons:

    1. The number of "Boomers" reaching retirement age is going to severely stress the health care system.

    2. The average age of an RN is 43y, so there will be a significant number of nurses retiring in the next 10y.

    3. There are not enough nursing professors/educators to teach, causing schools to turn away qualified applicants. There does not seem to be any solution to this problem in the forseeable future.
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    I think "Mighty MURSE" has a better ring to it.
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    Only if he wears is underwear outside his scrubs.
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    gzagza whats woctor school like? can't you just wait to take that little thong of a white coat and put on a long one!! wow then you can have your own little name tag that say's doctor woctor.
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    oh wocgeorge i have this book called medical physiology written by a arthur guyton. i'm sittin here with my underwear on the outside of my jeans trying to figure ot the medial lemniscal system of the dorsal column. could you use all your student woctor power and explain the spatial orientation of the nerve fibers? thanks wocgeorge.
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    Ok mursie, listen here your first mistake is wearing your underwear on the outside of your jeans, you'll never get laid that way. Your second mistake is trying to learn about DC-MLP from Guyton shows your level of amateurity. You want to learn about DC-MLP or any other Neuropath ways Basic Clinical Neuroanatomy by Young and Young is the way to go. If thats not your style, The Human Brain: An Introduction to Its Functional Anatomy by Nolte is a good secondary text.

    Mursie, any other time you get in over your head and need some help you just holla for good 'ol DocGeorge and I might mosey on by and give you a hand.
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    please wocgeorge help me out.
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    whats the answer wocgeorge?
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    Mursie, education at this level just is'nt done that way...I showed you the first step, now it's time for you to show some initative. You can go find the texts I mentioned at a place called a library (You do know what this is right?).The way it works is that I tell you where you can find the anwsers you need and it's up to you to go look them up.

    Now if this is just too much of a task for you to handle, I can give you some objectives to help break your learn'in to small bite sized pieces.
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    actually wocgeorge its allot quicker and easier to get laid with your underwear on the outside of your pants. it really eliminates a full step. pull off one item and there will be no time for them to reconsider. your a thinker medical woctor.
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    Thats supposeing you can convince someone to bump uglies with you walking around with your underwear on the outside. Possible? Sure. Probbable? I doubt it.
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    oh wocgeorge i didn't ask for instruction. i would preferably like to know the answer. i like instant gratification while learning woctor wocgeorge.
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    Thats supposeing you can convince someone to bump uglies with you walking around with your underwear on the outside. Possible? Sure. Probbable? I doubt it. (wocgeorge)

    oh its probbable. works like a charm everytime. go ahead wocgeorge throw some underwear over your jeans.
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    What is the starting salary for a male nurse in the south east? I am consideirng a career change and thought about becoming a nuirse..perhaps RN..But I have to get accepted into a program first
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    I'm sorry you find the idea so funny.
    'Nurse' is feminine only for narrow-minded individuals.
    I'm actually quite surprised at your response, coming from someone who, I would expect, calls themselves a professional.
    But that's okay; I've learned to live with your kind. :barf:

    ...despite how you choose to see it, 'Nurse' fits just fine, thank you.

    Greg Reg. N.

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