Applying to Canadian or Australian dental schools

[Dr.Millisevert]

Anyone applying to dental school in Australia or Canada?

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[amalgamgrillz]

Applying to Canada and the USA..if I don't get in, then I'll consider applying to Australia. Any advice?

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Applying to Canada and the USA..if I don't get in, then I'll consider applying to Australia. Any advice?

Most Australian schools are a bit cheaper to attend as a Canadian than most US schools on average. ... something worth considering.

 

[doc toothache]

Choosing where to apply should be more a function of where one wishes to ultimately practice rather than the cost, not to mention one's ability to practice in the country of choice once out of ds.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Choosing where to apply should be more a function of where one wishes to ultimately practice rather than the cost, not to mention one's ability to practice in the country of choice once out of ds.

True.. However... Australia and Canada just signed a reciprocal accreditation agreement just like the one Canada has with the United States. So, as a Canadian it doesn't matter if you attend dental school in Canada, Australia, or US. It's all equally accredited and will allow you to practice in Canada.

I think cost for many people is a very important factor to consider.

 

[BlueToothHunter]

So does that mean any US trained dentists could move down to Australia and set up shop?? (Since CODA and Canadian counterpart mutually recognize each other's qualifications...)

Finally, the US dentists will have the 51st state to expand their territory!! Ha, it will definitely bring up the average IQ of the American dental workforce, I am SURE!

Where is the link regarding the reciprocal agreement??

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

So does that mean any US trained dentists could move down to Australia and set up shop?? (Since CODA and Canadian counterpart mutually recognize each other's qualifications...)

Finally, the US dentists will have the 51st state to expand their territory!! Ha, it will definitely bring up the average IQ of the American dental workforce, I am SURE!

Where is the link regarding the reciprocal agreement??

Not yet... As of now it's only between Canada and Australia. However, I heard that CODA is considering signing on soon as well.

So we'll see.

Someone said the canadians will be updating their websites by the end of the year to reflect the new Australian agreement.

 

[Cunner21]

Hey Dr. Millisevert, do you know what kind of stats you would need to be considered for Aussie schools (ie. GPA, and DAT scores)?

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Hey Dr. Millisevert, do you know what kind of stats you would need to be considered for Aussie schools (ie. GPA, and DAT scores)?

Depends on the program. Each school is different. Some don't even accept international students.

And the ones who do... Remember you are only competing with other internationals for those reserved international spots.

Sydney's program is very heavy on interview. They have low min scores for gpa and dat/cdat/ or gamsat which qualify you for an interview.. And then they have what they call a MMI interview and grade/rank you based on that. Sydney also values research experience.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

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[Dr.Millisevert]

I think the only Canadian dental schools (from memory) that accept international students are: McGill, Dalhousie, Toronto, and maybe UBC.

The only Australian dental schools that accept international students are: UMelb, USyd, UWA, Adelaide, and UQ.

 

[Munchy]

may I remind everyone that the interview cutoff for UofT in 2009 was 3.86. That is conversion with OMSAS (90 is 4.0 not 4.3).

The interview for Western university was 86% average.

If you are thinking 'hell i will go to Canadia b/c it's cheaper' you better have amazing stats.

But doesnt that 3.86 make you disgusted? I know I was...

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

may I remind everyone that the interview cutoff for UofT in 2009 was 3.86. That is conversion with OMSAS (90 is 4.0 not 4.3).

The interview for Western university was 86% average.

If you are thinking 'hell i will go to Canadia b/c it's cheaper' you better have amazing stats.

But doesnt that 3.86 make you disgusted? I know I was...

Does UWO accept internationals? ... I didn't think they did.

How much do the Canadian schools charge for international tuition these days.

 

[NobodyCanStopMe]

yes UWO takes international students, and they charge about 50k/yr so it's not very "cheap" if you are an international student.

 

[NobodyCanStopMe]

http://www.schulich.uwo.ca/dentistry/documents/Statistics_Class2013.pdf

 

[Saggese]

If you attend one of the Canadian or Australian dental schools, will it be hard to come back and practice in the US? I know for many of the people who got there dental degree abroad and who are wishing to practice in the US, have a very difficult time being allowed to practice, find residency programs, etc. in the US. Can anyone comment on this. Thank you!

 

[NobodyCanStopMe]

canadian dental schools are accredited just like any US dental schools...so it will be very easy, you just have to write the NBDE etc for US...

i don't think australian schools are...not yet at least

 

[amalgamgrillz]

canadian dental schools are accredited just like any US dental schools...so it will be very easy, you just have to write the NBDE etc for US...

i don't think australian schools are...not yet at least

Canada, USA, and Australia have a reciprocal accreditation agreement.

 

[DJizzle]

Canada, USA, and Australia have a reciprocal accreditation agreement.

I thought the agreement was between CDAC(Canada) and the ADC (Australia)?

But possibly Australian schools might be accredited by in USA (and vice versa) indirectly because the US Dental Boards allow CDAC accredited programs....hmm not to sure about this...

If Aus. and USA aren't accredited through this indirect way, anyone know the progress on a reciprocal agreement between US and Australia? Even if the ADC and CODA(USA) don't sign a reciprical agreement, it seem that(according to posts on this forum) University of Sydney and University of Melbourne have applied for CODA accreditation.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I thought the agreement was between CDAC(Canada) and the ADC (Australia)?

It is. As of now... Canada has an agreement with both Australia and the US. The US only has an agreement with Canada and Australia has an agreement only with Canada.

But possibly Australian schools might be accredited by in USA (and vice versa) indirectly because the US Dental Boards allow CDAC accredited programs....hmm not to sure about this...

This Im not sure about. The Aus - Canada agreement is new. Even if the US doesn't decide to sign on soon to the Aus-Can agreement ... You would probably have a strong case should you wish to petition a US state dental board for a license! Because legally if the US says Canadian standards are equivalent to American and Canada says Australian standards are equivalent to Canadian standards ... Therefore American standards are equivalent to Australian standards.

If Aus. and USA aren't accredited through this indirect way, anyone know the progress on a reciprocal agreement between US and Australia? Even if the ADC and CODA(USA) don't sign a reciprical agreement, it seem that(according to posts on this forum) University of Sydney and University of Melbourne have applied for CODA accreditation.

Sydney and Melbourne were seeking individual accreditation through CODA... But not anymore because the ADC and the CDAC signed a full reciprocal accreditation agreement which means every Australian dental school is fully accredited in Canada and visa versa (not just a couple of individual programs).

Now we will just have to wait and see if the US CODA also signs the agreement.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Canadian programs that accept internationals:

Toronto: $48,300 CAD/yr
UWO: $50,000 CAD/yr
Dalhousie: $40,000 CAD/yr
Alberta: $42,445 CAD/yr
Saskatchewan: $32,960 CAD/yr

Australian programs that accept internationals:

Sydney: $50,400 AUD/yr
Melbourne: $46,050 AUD/yr
UWA: $46,000 AUD/yr
UQ: $42,900 AUD/yr
Adelaide: $50,000 AUD/yr

 

[DJizzle]

Just to clarify, I e-mailed the ADA's accreditation section the question of whether the ADC and CDAC agreement had an indirect effect . They said:

"Your message was forwarded to me as I am the accreditation manager for international accreditation. The reciprocity agreement between CDAC and Australia does not extend to the United States and the Commission on Dental Accreditation (CODA). The reciprocity agreement that CODA has with CDAC only covers Canadian programs. CODA does have policies and procedures in place for accrediting established international predoctoral education programs. Information and guidelines for that process is on the web at: http://www.ada.org/116.aspx"

So, it's confirmed. Until CODA and ADC sign a reciprocal agreement themselves, students that went to an Aussie dental school can't work in the US and vice versa without re-doing the final 2 years in an American dental school (or 2years of AEGD/GPR for certain states).

Or in the case of working in Australia, doing the ADC exam for internationally trained dentists. But then again, there is a way to bypass this with the New Zealand loophole apparently.

While it is a bummer, I guess it does make sense to some degree. Singapore, UK and New Zealand graduates can work in Australia. However I don't think Canada will allow Singapore, UK and NZ graduates just because Australia has an agreement with Canada.

 

[NobodyCanStopMe]

how easy/hard is it for a canadian to get into Aus dental schools? I have a lot of Canadian friends who are looking into applying to US dental schools because it is ridiculously difficult to get into Canadian dental schools these days, and I guess this may open up more doors for them.

Do they treat Canadians as "international"? I know it's relatively easy for a Canadian to get into a private US dental school because they don't make this distinction.

 

[UBDent19]

I am applying to Toronto and Western Ontario because I have family in the area. I'm not expecting much since they prefer in-province applicants. I'm figuring it to be pretty much a $400 donation to the Canadian Dental School system.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Just to clarify, I e-mailed the ADA's accreditation section the question of whether the ADC and CDAC agreement had an indirect effect . They said:

"Your message was forwarded to me as I am the accreditation manager for international accreditation. The reciprocity agreement between CDAC and Australia does not extend to the United States and the Commission on Dental Accreditation (CODA). The reciprocity agreement that CODA has with CDAC only covers Canadian programs. CODA does have policies and procedures in place for accrediting established international predoctoral education programs. Information and guidelines for that process is on the web at: http://www.ada.org/116.aspx"

So, it's confirmed. Until CODA and ADC sign a reciprocal agreement themselves, students that went to an Aussie dental school can't work in the US and vice versa without re-doing the final 2 years in an American dental school (or 2years of AEGD/GPR for certain states).

Yeah, that's right. ...the agreements are:

1. Aus and Can
2. Can and Aus and US
3. and US and Can

Some US states don't even require 2 years of GPR/AEGD. As an international dental graduate you can obtain a dental license in Minnisota by only sitting what they call a "bench exam". Washington, Virginia, and a handful of others will grant international dental graduates a license after only 1 year of GPR/AEGD.

Or in the case of working in Australia, doing the ADC exam for internationally trained dentists. But then again, there is a way to bypass this with the New Zealand loophole apparently.

While it is a bummer, I guess it does make sense to some degree. Singapore, UK and New Zealand graduates can work in Australia. However I don't think Canada will allow Singapore, UK and NZ graduates just because Australia has an agreement with Canada.

Just like the United States and Canada.. Australia has always provided dental licenses via each individual state dental board. In July this year (this month) all of the state dental boards are being done away with... and instead Australia is forming one nationwide dental board (The Dental Board of Australia). One of the main reasons for doing this was to eliminate loopholes from getting license in one state and then going to another state to work. The new national dental board will have nation wide standards for obtaining a dental license and registering as a dental specialist.


1. The NZ loophole is closing this year. Just because you are able to get a license in NZ won't mean you will be able to work in Australia. (The only exception being if you actually graduated from NZ's only dental school at the University of Otago).

2. I've never heard of Singapore grads being able to work in Australia without sitting the ADC exams for foreign dentists. Singapore's dental school is not accredited or recognised by ADC.

3. Prior to 2001 the UK and Australia used to have a reciprical accreditation agreement. After the UK joined the EU at that time.. they stopped accrediting all of the commonwealth countries dental schools. ... for some reason Australia has (since 2001) continued to allow UK graduates to work in Australia. This too I hear is closing this year.

I read once that the US was considering forming one national dental board too at one point (not sure what happend to that)... to also help stamp out the wide differences (loopholes) in state to state licensing standards in the United States.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I am applying to Toronto and Western Ontario because I have family in the area. I'm not expecting much since they prefer in-province applicants. I'm figuring it to be pretty much a $400 donation to the Canadian Dental School system.

There are no Private dental schools in Australia. All Australian dental schools are based at public universities.

The Australian programs which I listed that accept International students each have a limited number of reserved spots for internationals.

Example: Sydney usually has about 75 students in each class. Comprised of about 65 local Australian students and about 10 international students.

When you apply as an international ... you are only competing with other internationals for one of those reserved spots. Hope that helps clearify things.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Just to clarify, I e-mailed the ADA's accreditation section the question of whether the ADC and CDAC agreement had an indirect effect . They said:

"Your message was forwarded to me as I am the accreditation manager for international accreditation. The reciprocity agreement between CDAC and Australia does not extend to the United States and the Commission on Dental Accreditation (CODA). The reciprocity agreement that CODA has with CDAC only covers Canadian programs. CODA does have policies and procedures in place for accrediting established international predoctoral education programs. Information and guidelines for that process is on the web at: http://www.ada.org/116.aspx".

Like I said, even if they don't sign on to the agreement.. if you really wanted to fight it.. Remember its not CODA that grants you a dental license in the States.. its each state dental board. If you wanted to petition a particular state dental board for a license on the grounds that Aus and Canada have a reciprocal agreement stating they have identical standards for accreditation and therefor Australia and CODA have identical standards for accreditation.

You could give it a shot... only the state dental boards have the power to deny you a license.

 

[DJizzle]

Yeah, that's right. ...the agreements are:

1. Aus and Can
2. Can and Aus and US
3. and US and Can

Some US states don't even require 2 years of GPR/AEGD. As an international dental graduate you can obtain a dental license in Minnisota by only sitting what they call a "bench exam". Washington, Virginia, and a handful of others will grant international dental graduates a license after only 1 year of GPR/AEGD.





Just like the United States and Canada.. Australia has always provided dental licenses via each individual state dental board. In July this year (this month) all of the state dental boards are being done away with... and instead Australia is forming one nationwide dental board (The Dental Board of Australia). One of the main reasons for doing this was to eliminate loopholes from getting license in one state and then going to another state to work. The new national dental board will have nation wide standards for obtaining a dental license and registering as a dental specialist.


1. The NZ loophole is closing this year. Just because you are able to get a license in NZ won't mean you will be able to work in Australia. (The only exception being if you actually graduated from NZ's only dental school at the University of Otago).

2. I've never heard of Singapore grads being able to work in Australia without sitting the ADC exams for foreign dentists. Singapore's dental school is not accredited or recognised by ADC.

3. Prior to 2001 the UK and Australia used to have a reciprical accreditation agreement. After the UK joined the EU at that time.. they stopped accrediting all of the commonwealth countries dental schools. ... for some reason Australia has (since 2001) continued to allow UK graduates to work in Australia. This too I hear is closing this year.

I read once that the US was considering forming one national dental board too at one point (not sure what happend to that)... to also help stamp out the wide differences (loopholes) in state to state licensing standards in the United States.

Ah thanks for the clarification. I guess that would be beneficial for those that want to work in Seattle or the Virginia suburbs of metro DC.

The state(NY) I would ideally like to work in has the most stringent conditions out of all the states to get licensure. Currently I would need to do both the final 2years of dental school (as an international graduate) + 1 year AEGD/GPR (Everybody who wants NY state licensure requires this. They dont have a board exam) . I guess I could make things slightly easier by electing to go across the Hudson River to NJ or to lower Conneticut . So anyway, I'm hoping CODA signs on by the time I graduate. Or I could try and appeal as you said =)

I know you can work in Singapore with an Aussie degree but I guess it isn't a reciprical agreement.

Thanks for the info Dr. Millisevert! If things change/progress in regards to all this accreditation stuff and you find out about it , please update us =)

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

Ah thanks for the clarification. I guess that would be beneficial for those that want to work in Seattle or the Virginia suburbs of metro DC.

The state(NY) I would ideally like to work in has the most stringent conditions out of all the states to get licensure. Currently I would need to do both the final 2years of dental school (as an international graduate) + 1 year AEGD/GPR (Everybody who wants NY state licensure requires this. They dont have a board exam) . I guess I could make things slightly easier by electing to go across the Hudson River to NJ or to lower Conneticut . So anyway, I'm hoping CODA signs on by the time I graduate. Or I could try and appeal as you said =)

I know you can work in Singapore with an Aussie degree but I guess it isn't a reciprical agreement.

Thanks for the info Dr. Millisevert! If things change/progress in regards to all this accreditation stuff and you find out about it , please update us =)

Yeah, no worries.

 

[The Articulator]

Canadian programs that accept internationals:

Toronto: $48,300 CAD/yr
UWO: $50,000 CAD/yr
Dalhousie: $40,000 CAD/yr
Alberta: $42,445 CAD/yr
Saskatchewan: $32,960 CAD/yr

Australian programs that accept internationals:

Sydney: $50,400 AUD/yr
Melbourne: $46,050 AUD/yr
UWA: $46,000 AUD/yr
UQ: $42,900 AUD/yr
Adelaide: $50,000 AUD/yr

I recently was also accepted to the University of Melbourne for Dentistry. The price they told me in my acceptance package was that it will cost $60,000 AUD / year for international students like myself.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I recently was also accepted to the University of Melbourne for Dentistry. The price they told me in my acceptance package was that it will cost $60,000 AUD / year for international students like myself.

That's about 55k USD? ... still cheaper than NYU or USC. You accept their offer?

 

[The Articulator]

That's about 55k USD? ... still cheaper than NYU or USC. You accept their offer?

I currently was in the process of Accepting an offer from the University of Sydney for the Bdent program and then Melbourne also accepted me. While I'm 95% sure I will be attending Sydney, I still have not emailed melbourne to tell them I have declined the offer. What do you think Dr. Millisevert, which school would you suggest, what are the pros and cons, if any. I am all the way in Canada now and I am trying to find as much information as I can online about each institution.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I currently was in the process of Accepting an offer from the University of Sydney for the Bdent program and then Melbourne also accepted me. While I'm 95% sure I will be attending Sydney, I still have not emailed melbourne to tell them I have declined the offer. What do you think Dr. Millisevert, which school would you suggest, what are the pros and cons, if any. I am all the way in Canada now and I am trying to find as much information as I can online about each institution.

well.. both are 4 year graduate programs. Sydney's program I think is about 3-5k cheaper for internationals at the moment per year. Both cities are about the same when it comes to living cost. Melbourne has more variable weather and the local beaches aren't as nice. Personally I'd prefer to live in Sydney. Sydney University has graduated a lot more Canadian's so as far as having more alumni who can help you out.. you're probably better off with Sydney's program. Either one will provide you with top notch dental training... and both programs are well respected.

Good luck. let us know where you end up.

 

[oae]

Hey guys,

So Im considering applying to some Canadian schools now that Ive read this thread.


Do they accept the DAT scores? Is it a seamless process to apply? Can I just "copy and paste" my AADSAS information over into some Canadian version of AADSAS?

Finally, where do I start?.....which website?

Thanks alot

 

[RedDevilDDS]

Hey guys,

So Im considering applying to some Canadian schools now that Ive read this thread.


Do they accept the DAT scores? Is it a seamless process to apply? Can I just "copy and paste" my AADSAS information over into some Canadian version of AADSAS?

Finally, where do I start?.....which website?

Thanks alot

Yes, most Canadian d-schools accept american DAT if you're applying from US.

Your DAT score is very high and will be good enough to fit you in any Canadian d-schools.
However, you also have to consider that they do require very high gpa, at least 3.7 gpa and 3.8-3.9 to be competitive. This number might be little lower for international applicants considering there aren't too many international applicants for Canadian d-schools.

 

[oae]

Thank you RedDevil for your response...

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[z3u2]

I currently was in the process of Accepting an offer from the University of Sydney for the Bdent program and then Melbourne also accepted me.

From what I am aware USyd is changing the degree name from BDent to DMD. (Melbourne is also offering DMD title) The change affects only the new coming year in 2011.

This may help u in deciding where to go.

 

[shahinc]

Is it too late to apply for next year ??

This is from UMelb

Applications for entry to the Doctor of Dental Surgery commencing in 2011 will open in early May 2010. Closing date for local applications is 4 June 2010. Closing date for international applications is 25 June 2010.

 

[pinhi]

Anyone applying to dental school in Australia or Canada?

all of the research ive done regarding australian schools suggests that an australian dental degree is an undergraduate education....doctorates in dentistry in australia are research degrees or teaching only.....
So....its great if u only plan on practicing in australia or you dont care about obtaining a D.D.S./D.M.D.

 

[z3u2]

all of the research ive done regarding australian schools suggests that an australian dental degree is an undergraduate education....doctorates in dentistry in australia are research degrees or teaching only.....
So....its great if u only plan on practicing in australia or you dont care about obtaining a D.D.S./D.M.D.

Are u saying DDS and DMD degree else where are research degree? There's a difference between PhD degree and the "Doctor" in DDS/DMD. PhD is research, DDS/DMD allows u to practice dentistry, two very different degrees.

As previously said, dental degree (whether its post secondary school entry or post graduate entry) will be eligible of practicing in Canada after licenced, regardless of the degree name.

 

[PacificBlue2012]

I recently was also accepted to the University of Melbourne for Dentistry. The price they told me in my acceptance package was that it will cost $60,000 AUD / year for international students like myself.

Money is irrelevant if one wants to work in a particular locale. If you want to be in North America, go to a North American school.

 

[PacificBlue2012]

I thought the agreement was between CDAC(Canada) and the ADC (Australia)?

But possibly Australian schools might be accredited by in USA (and vice versa) indirectly because the US Dental Boards allow CDAC accredited programs....hmm not to sure about this...

If Aus. and USA aren't accredited through this indirect way, anyone know the progress on a reciprocal agreement between US and Australia? Even if the ADC and CODA(USA) don't sign a reciprical agreement, it seem that(according to posts on this forum) University of Sydney and University of Melbourne have applied for CODA accreditation.

If I were you I would fully research the details of this agreement, Canada is notorious for its small print. For example when I become a RACGP in several years, this would mean that I would be able to work in Canada as a GP but from looking at the fine print its not necessarily true. If you want to work in North America as a Dentist, go to a North American school. I have also told people who wanted to study Medicine in Oz the same thing.

 

[The Articulator]

Money is irrelevant if one wants to work in a particular locale. If you want to be in North America, go to a North American school.

I think you may need to calm down buddy. I wasn't complaining about the price, I was correcting someone who quoted a wrong price.

 

[z3u2]

From what I am aware USyd is changing the degree name from BDent to DMD. (Melbourne is also offering DMD title) The change affects only the new coming year in 2011.

This may help u in deciding where to go.

quote from the Dean of USyd:
"The DMD has been reviewed by the Senior Executive Group and approved to be reviewed by the Academic Board and its subcommittees. This will hopefully lead to approval over the next 4-6 months so that the course will be ready for 2012. Inevitable delays have occurred because the Federal Government is in the midst of developing a qualification framework for all courses across Australia and this will impact how we deliver this course."

so next year it'll still be called BDent

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

quote from the Dean of USyd:
"The DMD has been reviewed by the Senior Executive Group and approved to be reviewed by the Academic Board and its subcommittees. This will hopefully lead to approval over the next 4-6 months so that the course will be ready for 2012. Inevitable delays have occurred because the Federal Government is in the midst of developing a qualification framework for all courses across Australia and this will impact how we deliver this course."

so next year it'll still be called BDent

So what? Its the same thing.. DMD = BDent, BDS = DDS, MBBS (AUS) = MD (US), BVS = DVM (Sydney's vet school grants a US/Canadian accredited vet degree which is the exact same thing as the American DVM)

In the states they still have physical therapists with BPT or MPT degrees.. they are the same thing as a DPT. They are all equivalent entry level degrees in physical therapy.

Are u saying DDS and DMD degree else where are research degree? There's a difference between PhD degree and the "Doctor" in DDS/DMD. PhD is research, DDS/DMD allows u to practice dentistry, two very different degrees.

I think you are confusing "DDS" (Doctor of Dental Surgery) with "DDSc" (Doctor of Dental Science). The DDSc degree has historically been offered in British Commonwealth countries as a postgraduate research degree similar to a PhD or DSc (doctor of science). In contrast to the PhD which is usually offered for submitting a single research thesis.. the DDSc is offered to those individuals who have submitted "multiple thesis" throughout their career. It is usually offered as more of a Honorary doctorate for a lifetime achievement award and contributions to the field of dentistry. Hopefully that helps.

all of the research ive done regarding australian schools suggests that an australian dental degree is an undergraduate education....doctorates in dentistry in australia are research degrees or teaching only.....
So....its great if u only plan on practicing in australia or you dont care about obtaining a D.D.S./D.M.D.

Again.. DDS or DMD is offered as the entry level undergraduate dental degree in: USA, Canada, Taiwan, Japan, Sweden, France, etc

and BDS, BDent, etc are offered as the entry level undergraduate dental degree in: Australia, NZ, UK, Ireland, South Africa, eg rest of British Commonwealth countries.

Sydney offers a BDent degree which is 4 years long and requires a previous degree for admission (it is a "graduate" entry dental program).. Even in the US and Canada they don't technically require a previous degree for admission.. simply 90 semester hours of pre-reqs. UOP in San Fran (USA) has a 5 year DDS program that doesn't even require pre-reqs that accepts students out of High school.

Also Taiwan, Japan, Sweden all of whom offer a DDS degree for a 5 year program offered to HS students.

soo.. again.. DDS, BDent, BDS, DMD, BchD.. it doesn't matter.. they are all equivalent entry level degrees in dentistry that teach you the same thing. What matters is that you are eligible for licensure in the region you wish to practice.

As previously said, dental degree (whether its post secondary school entry or post graduate entry) will be eligible of practicing in Canada after licenced, regardless of the degree name.

Exactly.. that's correct.


Many MBBS (medical school graduates) in Australia are allowed to use the MD title while practicing in the US because they are equivalent degrees and just helps to clarify things so you don't have to explain to all your patients that you went to a British System medical school. (Since most American's are not as familiar with the British degrees)

Example of Aussie med and dent grads using the North American titles while practicing in the states:

MBBS = MD

BDent = DDS/DMD

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I think you may need to calm down buddy. I wasn't complaining about the price, I was correcting someone who quoted a wrong price.

Maybe they were tacking on "living expenses".. not sure. Maybe I'm wrong and they've increased the international tuition to 60k AUD. .. dunno. Best to ask them to be sure.

 

[z3u2]

So what? Its the same thing.. DMD = BDent, BDS = DDS, MBBS (AUS) = MD (US), BVS = DVM (Sydney's vet school grants a US/Canadian accredited vet degree which is the exact same thing as the American DVM)

not that it affects me but DMD does sound better. Its just personal opinion. If I get to choose whatever degree name I can get i'd get DMD over BDent/DDS. (and of course i don't get to choose><)

Example of Aussie med and dent grads using the North American titles while practicing in the states:

MBBS = MD

BDent = DDS/DMD

This is probably a separate issue.
I see quite a few dentists with BDS title in Vancouver. Presumbly they got their licence at the earlier era.

btw the second link is borken

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I see quite a few dentists with BDS title in Vancouver. Presumbly they got their licence at the earlier era.

btw the second link is borken

the second link seems to work when I try it. regardless... here is the address for the second link: http://www.gigharborsmiles.com/html/meet.html

 

[human instinct]

so now that its october...any news on CDAC and ADC reciprocal agreement policies that were being finalized?

 

[The Articulator]

so now that its october...any news on CDAC and ADC reciprocal agreement policies that were being finalized?

Yes