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http://www.goarmy.com/about/enlisted_soldiers_officers.jsp
Follow that link, it may clear you up some.
Follow that link, it may clear you up some.
The person you spoke with sounds like an enlisted recruiter. It also sounds like you've gotten a bit side tracked on your options. I had an enlisted recruiter somehow get ahold of me when I was considering the HPSP and even though you tell them straight up "NO, I DON"T WANT TO ENLIST" they won't quit trying to talk you into it, it's really quite impressive.
You need to talk to an AMEDD recruiter who is familiar with the program. If you have trouble finding one in your state then ask for help on this board and people will point you to a regional recruiter that can help.
You would not have to go to OCS. You would be a direct commission to 2LT. You would need to attend Officer Basic Course which is something like a 2-3 week course and is nothing like basic or OCS for that fact. Everyone at your OBC will be a med student/doctor/nurse/dentist etc... You don't have to attend OBC immediately but you can't get promoted until you complete it.
The enlistment bonus is for people who enlist, not officers.
http://www.goarmy.com/about/enlisted_soldiers_officers.jsp
Follow that link, it may clear you up some.
You would not have to go to OCS. You would be a direct commission to 2LT. You would need to attend Officer Basic Course which is something like a 2-3 week course and is nothing like basic or OCS for that fact. .
Actually, it's more like 4 weeks (27 days to be exact). I know because I'm going.
Actually, it's more like 4 weeks (27 days to be exact). I know because I'm going.
Please share you experiences when you're done!
OBC in 2007 was 2 weeks (I wanted to go then, but they couldn't get me in that quickly). It changed to a 25 day course in 2008. I didn't know that it has been expanded to 27 days (no big deal).
Maybe the enlisted recruiter is trying to get v-lander a line officer commission while he waits for school to start. That is not necessary. An acceptance letter in hand got me my direct appointment. You can get assigned to a local Med det and drill while waiting for school to start.
The correspondence thing might be the 40 hour distance learning course that's in the works. My understanding is that the intent is for a 25 day course to be preceded by the distance learning one (in which you learn history, rank structure, etc.). The homesite fo rthe OBC is:I said that to some guard docs and they swore up and down that there has to be some way that you can do some of the course by correspondence and only spend 2 weeks in Fort Sam.
(iatros- either the info on the Army page is out of date [entirely possible] or they're not including 2 days for pre-/post-processing. Good luck with it. God, is it October already?)
For those already on ASR orders how do you like being on Tricare? How does your experience (excluding money aspects, b/c we all know how awesome it is not to pay $3000/year for health insurance) compare to that of when you had private insurance? Do you have to go to a VA Hospital or does it depend on where you are located? How about seeing specialists and such...
BTW...don't take the GI Bill while in med school. Just found out that as an officer to get it you have to sign up for another tour in addition to your initial one. Better to wait it out and take the 75,000 bonus for a three year tour if you want to sign up again.
BTW...don't take the GI Bill while in med school. Just found out that as an officer to get it you have to sign up for another tour in addition to your initial one. Better to wait it out and take the 75,000 bonus for a three year tour if you want to sign up again.
Just did more research and new GI bill specifies 90 days of federal service....sorry, but I think that does not include us. Please correct me - I hope to be wrong.
My question lies with the $50k loan repayment. When does the actual repayment start? Can I draw the first $20k after taking out my 1st year loan so I don't have to build so much interest?
I'm pretty sure that you will need to be in the Guard of the state in which you are attending med school. The VT Guard would no doubt expect you to be recruiting for them if they are paying you (the $ does come from Washington, but it goes through the state). I could easily be wrong. Where are you gonna go to med school?
I'm pretty sure that you will need to be in the Guard of the state in which you are attending med school. The VT Guard would no doubt expect you to be recruiting for them if they are paying you (the $ does come from Washington, but it goes through the state). I could easily be wrong. Where are you gonna go to med school?
The contract for ASR stipulates that you have to live within 50 miles of your drilling base (which is actually your school). I'm not sure what that means for joining a particular state's guard, but I would imagine for your sake it would be so much easier to join the guard of the state you're in medical school.
What if I don't do ASR and just take the other benefits like the MDSSP?
1. You'd be crazy not to do ASR over MDSSP...tons more benefit for significantly less committment.
2. If you did do MDSSP, I don't see why you couldn't stay with your home guard. You still have to drill though (once every 3 months), would that be a hardship?
Another thing to keep in mind is to make sure that you are designated as undeployable by your unit. If it is not a medical unit, they may not know how to deal with you.
Good luck with your desicion, but honestly dude, ASR rocks.
is it true that during vacations you have to stay in that state and help recruit?? I have worked ADSW for many many years, and it's basically like a regular job.
iatrosb- you said you have to live 50 miles from your drill base(school). I'm wondering what you think the guard will do if my school moves me to another area. Our first two years are here in east lansing but we get moved to a hospital and mine is in Detroit which is more than 50 miles away. I was never told I had to live within 50 miles I just figured I would head back to school a few times a month and maintain stuff there.
Also does anyone know if that is true that we have to work full time over our school breaks? I'm guessing it depends on your individual state and who you are reporting too but I just thought I'd ask again.
Awesome! I am now seriously considering ASR. So you're ADSW for 3 years, and after that if you don't want any more benefits (such as STRAP, etc) you can pretty much end your service there and then, or do you have to fulfil the 8 years total? (I won't because I'm staying in until I get my 20 years, but just wondering).
Guess I'll have to ask him (he did ask me about my school and I explained it all to him and he didn't seem to have any worries about it).
HIM: You are a center of influence you keep me updated on interest people and we have lunch once a month. Rotate where you want as long as OK with the school.
Why are you part of the WV ARNG if you won't drill with them? Just curious...Once that's done, I go to the boards in Ohio somewhere (that's where the commanding office is for that area) because I'll be part of the WV Army National Guard, even though I won't actually drill with them.
Why are you part of the WV ARNG if you won't drill with them? Just curious...
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were going to be assigned to the WV guard though attending med school in Ohio or somesuch. This makes more sense. Thanks...You can't just be in the military w/o being assigned, on paper, to a state. Therefore, they are obligated to put assign you to the state where you'll be attending school for those 3 years.
I am a first year student now and I have been reading about the ASR program on here and I have a couple of questions to anyone that can answer.
Since I'm an MS1 right now I'm assuming I'd get the ASR for all 3 years. So after that would I owe an entire commitment of 6 years or is it 8?
Also, Does residency count towards payback? Suppose I wanted to do a 3 year residency, and as I understand you cannot be deployed during residency (correct me if I'm wrong). Does that mean there are only a few years I'm actually available for deployment?
If anyone can explain this for my situation that would be awesome.
Your commitment clock starts from the day you sign. You have an 8 year commitment of which 6 must be spent in an active drilling status and the other two can be spent in active drilling status or IRR. This is assuming you don't take advantage of any additional programs that increase your obligation (STRAP, loan forgiveness, speciality bonus, federal tuition assistance).
The current policy says that you won't be deployed until you're done with your residency. There is absolutely no way the'll deploy you before you're done with your internship. The odds of them deploying you during residency are quite slim IMHO. It's not good for the Army for several reasons. I would count on them getting at least one deployment out of you at the end of residency. Don't do this thinking you'll get by without it.
I'm not worried about a deployment I just did not understand how they could deploy you if you time ran up before residency ended. For example, 3 years of school + a 5 year surgery residency. You would theoretically be done once you finished residency, correct? So would it be safe to assume that in this case, you would probably get deployed during your residency? Or would you be able to do a deployment once you finished, extending beyond the 8 years?
I believe the way it's structured then yes you would be able to separate before your residency is complete and never get deployed. I asked this question of my recruiter and she said they don't want you to do that but you could. The idea behind the program is that #1 you'll recruit others, #2 you'll like the guard and it's benefits enough to stay a while longer.