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That probably will not change unless we merge with med onc. It is so engrained in the internal medicine mind set to consult/refer to med onc even though the patient just needs radiation for "coordination of care". For example if a rad onc patient shows up in the ER and is admitted, often the ER calls the med onc service for admission and advice. Unless rad onc is willing to go to the ER and admit at 3am and take care of that patient the current system will not change. Any takers?
Many are too hard headed to see that we are ONCOLOGISTS. This is mostly due to the internal medicine mind set as well. Med onc is often referred to as "oncology" in the internal medicine world and when rad onc is brought up I think people hear "RADIATION oncology", or in other words "radiation doctors". They don't make the connection to realize that med oncs are "chemotherapy doctors". The root of this problem is traced back to medical education. Rad oncs rarely lecture medical students and a rad onc rotation is not a part of the curriculum. Somehow psych and neurology are? Then when these students start internal medicine residency, they don't rotate with rad onc either. Overall this creates the generally held belief that rad onc is "easy" and you are hardly involved in patient care. Many think we are radiologists. It is only until they are med onc fellows when they rotate with rad onc for a month in some places. By then it is too late, and nobody knows what rad onc does. People think we just press a button and "nuke" the patient without ever seeing them. It is funny now that I am close to finishing my intern year, people are starting to stay things like "are you ready to be chilling and not see patients?". People have no idea what we do, even at the senior attending level.
I certainly wouldn't disagree with some of what you say in regards to lack of medical student and resident education and exposure leading to our field staying in the shadows, but I've been in the field and practice long enough to know that sadly many if not most practicing radiation oncologist and certainly a very large proportion of those in academics prefer it that way.
No matter how well the ED physician or hospitalist is educated in regards to our field he is going to call medical oncology ... can any current or recent residents imagine the response from your attending if you called him at 3am to say "the ED attending paged me because there is a patient with a history of locally advanced lung cancer now presenting with symptoms and CT consistent with multiple brain metastasizes ... he was going to page medical oncology, as he has a hundred times, but i recently educated him to the fact that we too are oncologists and in many situations, such as this one, we are actually the primary oncologist who does all the work so he paged us instead. I am so happy that we are finally getting the respect that we deserve as oncologist just like medical and surgical oncology!"
My friends we can't have it both ways. If we want to be taken seriously as equals we have to jump in the trenches with everybody else. Otherwise while we are comfortably enjoying our sleep and lifestyle hospitalists and ED physicians will be paging medical oncology who will reply to situations like this with "ok, please start steroids at this dose, I will be in around 6:30am to admit before my clinic starts at 7:30 and I will let rad onc know when they get in at 8-8:30."
See my post from 5/18 for my "wake up call"