avg. salary of neurosurgeon

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I was simply curious about the pay range for neurosurgeons. If there is a post somewhere else, could you please tell me. I dont want to make anyone mad about the question, just curious how neurosurgeons do? Also, do you think they are one of the top 5 highest paid surgeons. Who are the 3 highest paid surgeons? thanks!



I do know location, work, etc. are major factors.

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Don't look at it from an absolute dollar amount, but instead look at it from a dollars/hour perspective. Neurosurgeons on average are some of the highest compensated docs, but their hours are crappy as hell. If you consider both the salary and hours, then neurosurgeons rank pretty low. Derm is probably the best.
 
llSuRgEoNll said:
I was simply curious about the pay range for neurosurgeons. If there is a post somewhere else, could you please tell me. I dont want to make anyone mad about the question, just curious how neurosurgeons do? Also, do you think they are one of the top 5 highest paid surgeons. Who are the 3 highest paid surgeons? thanks!



I do know location, work, etc. are major factors.

They are the some of the top money makers (especially if you do spine work.)
They are also the most likely to getting sued, and the top in number of hours worked. And near the top in divorce rate.

Do some homework. Its not that hard.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=neurosurgery+jobs&btnG=Google+Search
 
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3 highest paid surgeons

i would guess neuro, ortho, plastic (not in any particular order)
 
thanks everyone for the info. by the way han19 i think i have researched this stuff, i just wanted to have some feedback from people. not statistics and that stuff, i just wanted to hear from other people. dont worry han19, i am going to research day and night just to make you proud.
 
In my area of the country I have been astonished to see in more than one chart a letter that goes something like this:

Dr. Basal Ganglia has decided to suspend his practice of neurological surgery after 2x years in practice due to the increasing litigious nature and ever increasing malpractice premiums associated with the field which make his practice financially unviable. He will be keeping his charts until Marchuary 22, 19xx after which they will be turned over to the Z_____ state department of health for archiving. Dr. Ganglia regrets that he has to close his practice due to the practice environemnt in Z_____ and is working to transition his patients to other clinical providers.
 
neutropenic said:
In my area of the country I have been astonished to see in more than one chart a letter that goes something like this:

Dr. Basal Ganglia has decided to suspend his practice of neurological surgery after 2x years in practice due to the increasing litigious nature and ever increasing malpractice premiums associated with the field which make his practice financially unviable. He will be keeping his charts until Marchuary 22, 19xx after which they will be turned over to the Z_____ state department of health for archiving. Dr. Ganglia regrets that he has to close his practice due to the practice environemnt in Z_____ and is working to transition his patients to other clinical providers.

Maybe it won't be Hillary Clinton that forces us into a socialist type environment, rather it will be the legal climate that forces surgeons to work for the state.
 
Taurus said:
Don't look at it from an absolute dollar amount, but instead look at it from a dollars/hour perspective. Neurosurgeons on average are some of the highest compensated docs, but their hours are crappy as hell. If you consider both the salary and hours, then neurosurgeons rank pretty low. Derm is probably the best.

I have seen some EM job postings for $160/hr./3 days per week. Now that's alot of money.
 
Almost anything is more than the 6.50 an hour I make cutting deli meat and being a kitch b!tch for a catering company.
 
Neurosurgery is one of the highest paid specialties. An academic neurosurgeon can expect to make 300k / year starting and around 600k average once established. A private practice neurosurgeon can expect to make 500k starting and prob 800-900k average. It is not uncommon for a neurosurgeon to make over 1 million / year (net). Contrary to popular belief, neurosurgery doesn’t necessarily have the long hours people expect. Academic neurosurgeons at a level 1 trauma center will easily work the hardest – but I know many academic neurosurgeons who lead a great life – weekly averages are difficult to compute because of the dynamic nature of the job. Private practice neurosurgeons at an average sized hospital in an average sized city probably don’t work any harder than other surgical specialties.
 
Don't know any salary info, but I spoke to a spinal neurosurgeon at UPenn who completed his fellowships this past December. He said he tries to put in 60 hours/week now. Before that 80hr/wk residency limit took place, he was working easily over 100hr/wk.

It will definitely be a balance of how much personal life you want outside work during residency, but after that, 60 isn't that bad. I know guys in the financial world that easily put in 80+hr/wk and their in their late 30s. Of course the field is well compensated, too, but as said before, $/hr isn't good (financial analyst, IB, merger/acq, etc).
 
llSuRgEoNll said:
I was simply curious about the pay range for neurosurgeons. If there is a post somewhere else, could you please tell me. I dont want to make anyone mad about the question, just curious how neurosurgeons do? Also, do you think they are one of the top 5 highest paid surgeons. Who are the 3 highest paid surgeons? thanks!



I do know location, work, etc. are major factors.


Most spinal guys I know are easily 7-figures. Lets put it this way, when a primary care doc gets on my hosp staff, there is a small reception with punch and cookies, cost: 40 bucks. When a specialist gets on staff there is a reception with appetizers and wine, cost: 1,000 bucks. When a spinal guy got on staff there was a reception for 300 people at a private mansion with 150 dollar bottles of Cab Sauv. and catering by the best places in California..cost: $100,000.
 
how much more do you think a spine guy would get paid over a brain guy if at all?
Thanks
 
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Hospitals know where there bread is buttered. Neurosurgeons can threaten to leave or not take call and hospitals have to take them seriously. All they have to do is read a few articles. A level 1 trauma center is no more without a neurosurgeon, which is usually the rate limiting factor, so most places will do anything. Malpractice insurance is a huge issue, but the neurosurgeons have all of the leverage since there are so few of them and they can cover their premiums and then some by telling the hospital to pay them for call. The Stark laws have changed things alot ,but one thing they do allow is getting paid for work and call that you do. The hospital administrators usually whine and complain about it but they are bent over a barrel on this issue. So getting paid for call and paid for no pays and medicaid and directorships is perfectly legal and just going to increase with the physician shortage.
 
Anybody know what the average salary for a resident neurosurgeon is and if it is any different from other fields?
 
DOC 2 B said:
Anybody know what the average salary for a resident neurosurgeon is and if it is any different from other fields?

nope, those are usually set by the government and hospital. A PGY-2 neurosurgeon working 110+ hours/weeks made the same amount of base salary I did as a lab medicine resident working 20 hours/week.
 
Nobody seemed to address this question. Does anybody know who the highest paid neurosurgeons are and what their salaries are?

Thanks.
 
DOC 2 B said:
Nobody seemed to address this question. Does anybody know who the highest paid neurosurgeons are and what their salaries are?

Thanks.

You won't find people just giving out their salaries left and right. I can assure you there are some I know into the low 7 figures. If you want to make money, go into investment banking or merger & acq.
 
Taurus said:
Don't look at it from an absolute dollar amount, but instead look at it from a dollars/hour perspective. Neurosurgeons on average are some of the highest compensated docs, but their hours are crappy as hell. If you consider both the salary and hours, then neurosurgeons rank pretty low. Derm is probably the best.

Since you mentioned dollars/hour, here goes:
http://phius.com/medicine/medx/perhour.htm


Oh, and here is the ranking of hours worked per year:
http://phius.com/medicine/medx/hrsayear.htm

Hope this helped!
 
thanks guys that really helped.
 
There are neurosurgeons in my state (part of the old south) that START at 1 million.
 
LADoc00 said:
nope, those are usually set by the government and hospital. A PGY-2 neurosurgeon working 110+ hours/weeks made the same amount of base salary I did as a lab medicine resident working 20 hours/week.


the hours/money don't matter if you love what you're doing.
 
im guessing you wont be homeless after the 11 or so years of medical education...
 
I am just wondering whether these salaries listed for doctors ( neurosurgeons, radiologists, etc) are before or after taxes?
Thanks!!
 
Resurrecting from the dead much?
 
Let's just say that the highest-paid neurosurgeons don't exactly approach the top salaries on Wall $treet. In fact, they don't approach 1/1000th of the top salaries on Wall $treet. Although, neurosurgeons aren't exactly fishing around for second jobs either. So don't pity them too much.
 
Most spinal guys I know are easily 7-figures. Lets put it this way, when a primary care doc gets on my hosp staff, there is a small reception with punch and cookies, cost: 40 bucks. When a specialist gets on staff there is a reception with appetizers and wine, cost: 1,000 bucks. When a spinal guy got on staff there was a reception for 300 people at a private mansion with 150 dollar bottles of Cab Sauv. and catering by the best places in California..cost: $100,000.

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This post was 10 years ago, but I'll ask anyway. I looked up the average salary for spinal surgeons on google and it said around $700,000. What distinguishes the spinal guys you know making $1000,000 and the ones making $700,000. Did they just do better in school or something?
 
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