Because all patients deserve a doctor who turns to alcohol, takes illicit stimulants, or commits suicide because he/she is so miserable right? Educate yourself.
Please just stop. People with your stated view are the first to fail out of residency.
There should be a Law2Doc tag on threads like these and the "I have long-standing depression, should I go to med school?" threads. He gives very real advice.
Yeah, this is what I was going to say. My ex goes to a T14 law school. Firms are offering him $150K+ salaries along with big bonuses and offering to pay off part of his law schools debt. He is going to work hard, but he is guaranteed to make 6 figures the rest of his life just like a physician. If you go to a selective law school, you will have security. If med school gets to the point that anyone can get in (like the Caribbean schools), then we will have people without job security.
Your ex is confident he can hack it in big law working as a corporate drone all the way and stay to make partner? Unless he kills other just as hard working associate drones or flexes real connections to move to in-house counsel after he's drummed out of being an associate, he's not guaranteed 6 figures even with his pedigree. Vault/AmLaw says 50% of big lawyers are gone after year 3. I'd say your understanding of big law careers is off.
Maybe because they're the only person who can save a life. Where the heck did your logic go?
1) The peak around 70K is usually from people who choose a field where you need to start around there (ie judicial clerkships, non-profits).
Can you stop quoting this median salary number? It's quite apparent you have no idea where this number comes from and what it means. The median salary at most top law schools is $160k because that is the standard starting salary for first-year associates at big law firms in the major markets where big law dominates (NY, DC, LA, SF, Chi). The median T14 grad is going into big law; we know this. But this tells us little to nothing about their future earning potential compared to physicians. Like I said, half of associates are gone after year 3, and the vast vast majority are definitely gone by year 5/6. Where do they go? Some are lucky enough to make a lateral move to be a corporate drone at another firm (here the cycle starts all over again, b/c if you don't make partner, you're drummed out). Even fewer (almost none these days) stay on to make partner and go into the big boys club ($1-2m+). Some will go be a in-house corporate drone (er, "counsel" they call it lmao) at some client company they worked well with. Still others will leave big law far far behind because they hated it and don't need the high pay since their loans are gone. These people now move into the legal career they actually care about; there is no such thing as a guaranteed $100k+ job here. Still others leave law forever because they never had a good reason to be in law, hated it, and will now tout around the "my JD is a useful and flexible degree now pay me mofos" even though it's really not flexible at all but they'll make do with some policy job or some other more meaningful BS gig.
No average resident salary is close to 55-60/year. If you factor in hourly then yes, you are working close to minimum wage.
Again, you are fighting details rather than general concepts. There is a clear path from T14 law school to a 6 figure salary. (And as far as I'm concerned, the fact that a lot of people leave big law isnt relevant. Half of doctors say they wouldn't do it again, which suggests that many doctors would want to leave the field. Many stay because by the time they break even on their debt it isnt worth changing careers and the worst is behind them anyways.) The parentheses part is not relevant to the argument, but rather an aside just so you dont focus on those details in your response
Clear path, not guaranteed or stable path. The details matter here because the nature of the path is important. Graduating from any old med school nets guaranteed $100k+. Graduating from top law school does not even guarantee big law. Once in big law, nothing means you can stay. There is a clear path, but that's not what people are debating here.
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Less than 1/4 of all allopathic grads become general internists or unspecialized FM practicioners. So...
I have (and so has @avgn, btw) and am currently talking to you.
Was this directed at me? If so...uh I have gotten into med school so we can talk. Beyond that I'm not sure what your beef is with me
Do whatever you want. Every physician I have spoken with (even the ones who love their job) say not to go into medicine if I can see myself being happy doing absolutely anything else. That is why people here are saying that money and job security may not keep you motivated on this path, unless medicine is actually what you enjoy doing. Especially if you don't respect the field of medicine and think that lives have little worth.
You obviously live nowhere near silicon valley then lol
