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What is the best review book for Step 3? I hear a lot of different things and I have found that advice on here is really helpful. Thanks a lot in advance!
What a timely post. I was just about to start a thread on same as I will be giving Step 3 around June. I have googled quite a lot. And following seems to be the best resources in balance with prep time.
I will be using following strategy (and I think these are must have) -
There is no comprehensive thread on this topic. Guys please help making it a good discussion this time.
I request people to please share their advice on this.
Holy ****! All that for Step 3?!?!?!
What a timely post. I was just about to start a thread on same as I will be giving Step 3 around June. I have googled quite a lot. And following seems to be the best resources in balance with prep time.
I will be using following strategy (and I think these are must have) -
1. First I will rapidly (it will be a revision only after Step 2 Ck) go through Kaplan step 2 CK notes and 20 Comprehensive Cases by Conrad Fischer, followed by Kaplan Step 3 Cases Notes along with Kaplan Step 3 Cases Videos.
2. Then I will swiftly finish Kaplan Step 3 Q Book.
3. Now I will revise (it will be a revision only after Step 2 Ck) Master the boards for Step 2 and Step 3.
4. Then comes USMLE World Step 3 Q Bank.
5. Then I will go through 23 hours of ********** Workshop Videos.
6. Lastly I will do USMLE World CCS.
That is all.
Additional preparation, depending on time and desire, may include following -
Premier Review Step 3 CCS ($ 50 for 7 days)
Case Files for Internal Medicine
USMLE Step 3 Triage
MKSAP 15 Questions (almost 1100 questions in CD-ROM)
Kaplan Internal Medicine Question Bank.
Even further down the line may include following -
Medstudy Board Review of Internal Medicine Video Course (along with its notes)
ACP Board Basics 2 Book
There is no comprehensive thread on this topic. Guys please help making it a good discussion this time.
I request people to please share their advice on this.
dont listen to this guy. just do the questions on usmleworld. thats all u need
I'm prepping for mine as well. Crush Step 3/COMBANK/Savarese. Not touching another book. Countless seniors have told me anything besides that is overkill.
I disagree. Crush Step 3 misses out on so many things. Its old as well (2008).
I have also heard people mention Neeraj's notes for Step 3, anyone know where to find it?
Maybe this method isn't what you want to get a 99 but I could care less about that, I just want my license.
What a timely post. I was just about to start a thread on same as I will be giving Step 3 around June. I have googled quite a lot. And following seems to be the best resources in balance with prep time.
I will be using following strategy (Note - This may not apply to the Interns who have already got the residency. And I think these are must have if one is aiming as high a score on Step 3 as possible) -
1. Kaplan Step 3 Cases Notes (Consult Kaplan Step 2 CK Notes for topics you feel weak while going through these case notes) along with Kaplan Step 3 Cases Videos (One can skip videos if not enough time) followed by Kaplan Step 3 Q Book.
2. Master the Boards for Step 3 (very rapid and high yield review).
3. Then comes USMLE World Step 3 Q Bank (UWorld gives Qbank and CCS practice separately as mentioned in next point).
4. Then I will go through 23 hours of ********** Workshop Videos (Why Archer ? Because there is no other better source for studying for CCS part of Step 3; UWorld CCS is practice mainly along with learning from cases) followed by USMLE World CCS.
That is all.
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Additional sources of preparation are (not needed after above in most cases; choose just one if you really wish) -
Master the Boards Step 2 (again very rapid and high yield review; not needed if already done for Step 2 exam)
Case Files for Internal Medicine (a very good book; really helps refine your approach to step 3 clinical questions and ccs cases)
USMLE Step 3 Triage (only if you need to strengthen your theory)
Even further down the line (for those who have like super extra time) may include following -
Medstudy Board Review of Internal Medicine Video Course
ACP Board Basics 2 Book
MKSAP 15 Questions (almost 1100 questions in CD-ROM)
There is no comprehensive thread on this topic. Guys please help making it a good discussion this time.
I request people to please share their advice on this.
Thank you cyneuron. I followed your advice and did the Archer 23 hour recorded CCS Workshops, I absolutely love it. In fact, I asked this question before as to what to take Archer Live workshop vs. 23 hour videos and did not get an answer. I took the ********** live workshop on April 30th , it was very useful, energetic and was until 11:30 PM in the night but quite draining as well. So, for people looking for the CCS to prepare slowly over a month rather than in a day, Archer 23 hour recorded CCS is the best.
Archer live workshop is a one day course and may be good for those who are ready for exam and want to go over the cases quickly a week before.
Having found the best course for the CCS, I am still searching for a best theory prep course. I read some pages of Kaplan notes but feel it is not well-made to address step 3 needs. I am doing UW questions now and Archer USMLE Step 3blog seem to have very good questions, also which I am doing. The quality of questions on Archer blog is excellent, so step 3 type , can I expect the same quality in their 36 hour Step 3 Theory review course? Have you taken their full Step 3 video lectures? If so, please advise.
I am hoping to complete my prep by June 15th.
Having found the best course for the CCS, I am still searching for a best theory prep course. I read some pages of Kaplan notes but feel it is not well-made to address step 3 needs. I am doing UW questions now and Archer USMLE Step 3blog seem to have very good questions, also which I am doing. The quality of questions on Archer blog is excellent, so step 3 type , can I expect the same quality in their 36 hour Step 3 Theory review course? Have you taken their full Step 3 video lectures? If so, please advise.
I am hoping to complete my prep by June 15th.
I am still searching for a best theory prep course. I read some pages of Kaplan notes but feel it is not well-made to address step 3 needs. I am doing UW questions now and Archer USMLE Step 3blog seem to have very good questions, also which I am doing. The quality of questions on Archer blog is excellent, so step 3 type , can I expect the same quality in their 36 hour Step 3 Theory review course? Have you taken their full Step 3 video lectures? If so, please advise.
I am hoping to complete my prep by June 15th.
Don't know about Archer 36 hrs review course...Actually i think i missed it while searching. Will see it as option.
Regarding Kaplan material for Step 3, be it CK or 3 Notes, I kinda agree with you, but then, there is no better alternative for now.
Holy ****! All that for Step 3?!?!?!
Thank you cyneuron. I followed your advice and did the Archer 23 hour recorded CCS Workshops, I absolutely love it. In fact, I asked this question before as to what to take Archer Live workshop vs. 23 hour videos and did not get an answer. I took the ********** live workshop on April 30th , it was very useful, energetic and was until 11:30 PM in the night but quite draining as well. So, for people looking for the CCS to prepare slowly over a month rather than in a day, Archer 23 hour recorded CCS is the best.
Archer live workshop is a one day course and may be good for those who are ready for exam and want to go over the cases quickly a week before.
Having found the best course for the CCS, I am still searching for a best theory prep course. I read some pages of Kaplan notes but feel it is not well-made to address step 3 needs. I am doing UW questions now and Archer USMLE Step 3blog seem to have very good questions, also which I am doing. The quality of questions on Archer blog is excellent, so step 3 type , can I expect the same quality in their 36 hour Step 3 Theory review course? Have you taken their full Step 3 video lectures? If so, please advise.
I am hoping to complete my prep by June 15th.
Why don't you download their free Nephrology video and then decide ?
Archer Nephrology Rapid Review Free Video
Why don't you download their free Nephrology video and then decide ?
Archer Nephrology Rapid Review Free Video
If you're in residency, you don't have time to read or review all that crap... I picked a light month, read some of FA for Step 3, did as many USMLEWorld qbank questions that I could and took it. I passed easily. I didn't score as high as I did on step 1 or 2 but I wasn't trying to either as I just needed to pass in this case.
Remember... over 95% of 1st time test takers pass these things...even though you walk out feeling like you failed it.
If you are in Internal Medicine residency, it might be easy for you but not for others. I have already taken this exam once and failed by 4 points. First aid and usmleworld are very inadequate for this exam as I felt these have not covered 90% of what is asked on the exam. I have done the usmleworld qbank three times in view of high recommendations for this course but I was so lost on the exam. UsmleWorld does not address 75% of the topics that are tested and does not focus on outpatient topics.
May be I should do Kaplan qbank and probably, include a course that explains the fundamental concepts in outpatient medicine.
What do you mean "outpatient topics"?
The topics are exactly the same: cardiology, nephrology, pulmonology, etc.
The same principles should theoretically apply.
What do you mean "outpatient topics"?
The topics are exactly the same: cardiology, nephrology, pulmonology, etc.
The same principles should theoretically apply.
outpatient or office topics refer to simple tasks in common complaints that are seen in a family physician's office. They are severely deficient in UW.
Take pulmonary for example; sinusitis, pharyngitis, rhinitis, otitis media, common OP pneumonias are outpatient topics.
These are highly important on the exam ( I already took this exam after doing UW twice and failed). Kaplan Qbank covers them more than UW and recently, I started Archer review and it has most of its lectures focused on outpatient topics.
UW q bank does address some OP topics but to a large extent, it goes after exotic stuff such as "LP in cryptococcal meningitis", "pentamidine induced hypoglycemia"...these are just some examples. No one asks these questions on USMLE Step 3 . These questions in UW are at sub-specialty level and are not at Family physician level.
What a timely post. I was just about to start a thread on same as I will be giving Step 3 around June. I have googled quite a lot. And following seems to be the best resources in balance with prep time.
I will be using following strategy (Note - This may not apply to the Interns who have already got the residency. And I think these are must have if one is aiming as high a score on Step 3 as possible) -
1. Kaplan Step 3 Cases Notes (Consult Kaplan Step 2 CK Notes for topics you feel weak while going through these case notes) along with Kaplan Step 3 Cases Videos (One can skip videos if not enough time) followed by Kaplan Step 3 Q Book.
2. Master the Boards for Step 3 (very rapid and high yield review).
3. Then comes USMLE World Step 3 Q Bank (UWorld gives Qbank and CCS practice separately as mentioned in next point).
4. Then I will go through 23 hours of ********** Workshop Videos (Why Archer ? Because there is no other better source for studying for CCS part of Step 3; UWorld CCS is practice mainly along with learning from cases) followed by USMLE World CCS.
That is all.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Additional sources of preparation are (not needed after above in most cases; choose just one if you really wish) -
Master the Boards Step 2 (again very rapid and high yield review; not needed if already done for Step 2 exam)
Case Files for Internal Medicine (a very good book; really helps refine your approach to step 3 clinical questions and ccs cases)
USMLE Step 3 Triage (only if you need to strengthen your theory)
Even further down the line (for those who have like super extra time) may include following -
Medstudy Board Review of Internal Medicine Video Course
ACP Board Basics 2 Book
MKSAP 15 Questions (almost 1100 questions in CD-ROM)
There is no comprehensive thread on this topic. Guys please help making it a good discussion this time.
I request people to please share their advice on this.
What a timely post. I was just about to start a thread on same as I will be giving Step 3 around June. I have googled quite a lot. And following seems to be the best resources in balance with prep time.
I will be using following strategy (Note - This may not apply to the Interns who have already got the residency. And I think these are must have if one is aiming as high a score on Step 3 as possible) -
1. Kaplan Step 3 Cases Notes (Consult Kaplan Step 2 CK Notes for topics you feel weak while going through these case notes) along with Kaplan Step 3 Cases Videos (One can skip videos if not enough time) followed by Kaplan Step 3 Q Book.
2. Master the Boards for Step 3 (very rapid and high yield review).
3. Then comes USMLE World Step 3 Q Bank (UWorld gives Qbank and CCS practice separately as mentioned in next point).
4. Then I will go through 23 hours of ********** Workshop Videos (Why Archer ? Because there is no other better source for studying for CCS part of Step 3; UWorld CCS is practice mainly along with learning from cases) followed by USMLE World CCS.
That is all.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Additional sources of preparation are (not needed after above in most cases; choose just one if you really wish) -
Master the Boards Step 2 (again very rapid and high yield review; not needed if already done for Step 2 exam)
Case Files for Internal Medicine (a very good book; really helps refine your approach to step 3 clinical questions and ccs cases)
USMLE Step 3 Triage (only if you need to strengthen your theory)
Even further down the line (for those who have like super extra time) may include following -
Medstudy Board Review of Internal Medicine Video Course
ACP Board Basics 2 Book
MKSAP 15 Questions (almost 1100 questions in CD-ROM)
There is no comprehensive thread on this topic. Guys please help making it a good discussion this time.
I request people to please share their advice on this.
What a timely post. I was just about to start a thread on same as I will be giving Step 3 around June. I have googled quite a lot. And following seems to be the best resources in balance with prep time.
I will be using following strategy (Note - This may not apply to the Interns who have already got the residency. And I think these are must have if one is aiming as high a score on Step 3 as possible) -
1. Kaplan Step 3 Cases Notes (Consult Kaplan Step 2 CK Notes for topics you feel weak while going through these case notes) along with Kaplan Step 3 Cases Videos (One can skip videos if not enough time) followed by Kaplan Step 3 Q Book.
2. Master the Boards for Step 3 (very rapid and high yield review).
3. Then comes USMLE World Step 3 Q Bank (UWorld gives Qbank and CCS practice separately as mentioned in next point).
4. Then I will go through 23 hours of ********** Workshop Videos (Why Archer ? Because there is no other better source for studying for CCS part of Step 3; UWorld CCS is practice mainly along with learning from cases) followed by USMLE World CCS.
That is all.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Additional sources of preparation are (not needed after above in most cases; choose just one if you really wish) -
Master the Boards Step 2 (again very rapid and high yield review; not needed if already done for Step 2 exam)
Case Files for Internal Medicine (a very good book; really helps refine your approach to step 3 clinical questions and ccs cases)
USMLE Step 3 Triage (only if you need to strengthen your theory)
Even further down the line (for those who have like super extra time) may include following -
Medstudy Board Review of Internal Medicine Video Course
ACP Board Basics 2 Book
MKSAP 15 Questions (almost 1100 questions in CD-ROM)
There is no comprehensive thread on this topic. Guys please help making it a good discussion this time.
I request people to please share their advice on this.
Bumping for updated recommendations.
I'd like to have one book to annotate in addition to the QBank. My Step 2CK background is not very strong, so I was wondering if I needed to use a Step2 review book in addition to a Step 3 book.
Book recommendations and other thoughts on how to study for Step 3 can be found here.
Is that your website?
I just completed my exam last week. I think I killed a patient in one CCS case but rest of the CCS cases improved and I had this "feel good" factor with most of the cases and mcqs. Hoping to pass.
I ended up doing Archer 36 hour video lectures along with their power-point notes for my theory preparation. These are highly useful if you are not yet in residency and would like to know how Step 3 questions are asked , some of the archer lectures hit the concepts right on target. This exam is nothing like Step 2ck so, prepare , prepare well. After completing archer lectures, I repeated UW questions and free blog questions from Archer question bank. My average was around 70% ( it could because I was doing them for second time but my understanding of the question much improved) . My NBME score stood at 460 a week before my exam and that is when I decided to go for it.
You could follow the strategy below which I think helped me the most
1. Do Archer 36 hour video lectures along with notes
2. Do UW questions. If you have time, repeat them , repeat at least the questions that you wrongly answered previously.
3. Do Archer blog questions, these are very common qs that you will see on the exam.
4. ********** workshop and then, self practice CCS cases on the orientation software .
5. Take NBME self assessment
6. GO for IT!