SDN Members don't see this ad. (About Ads) Hi all, thanks for the help! I am trying to decide between the following 4 programs for prelim year: 1. Kaiser Oakland 2. Santa Clara Valley TY and Prelim 3. CPMC 4. Scripps I am looking for a more 'laid back' year with high quality of life, and also learn on the wards. Thoughts on these programs???