California Northstate gains Accreditation

[Spector1]

Looks like Netter has theirs at 25%. Weird MSAR.

nice neat numbers, its almost like they made them up. no that couldnt possibly be. /s

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[Judgment Dragon]

The problem with your comment is that medical schools do not exist in a competitive environment to attract students if all they care about is filling a tuition paying class year after year.

Northstate needs to only reinvest enough money to attract enough students to fill their class. I highly doubt they will have any trouble as a US medical school even if their education is subpar. As long as they place their students somewhere I do not see why they will have trouble attracting students when a school like SGU can attract a class of 1000 students every year.




Until this year Rocky Vista was the only for-profit DO school. Now there are two for-profit DO schools and one for-profit MD school. Someone needs to stop this.

What are the 2 for-profit DO schools?

 

[Giovanotto]

What are the 2 for-profit DO schools?

RVU and BCOM, AFAIK.

 

[Henry101]

That could have been answered by a quick google. Why did you bump up this thread from the pits of Hades it was banished to?

 

[el_duderino]

California Northstate University College of Medicine started its first class this Fall 2015 semester. Most accepted students coming from California (UC Berkeley, UC Davis, UCLA, USC, Stanford, etc) with a few coming from other notable schools such as BYU Provo, MIT, and more. Average MCAT score of accepted students over 34 and only 60 students were accepted. Currently accepting applicants for the 2016 cycle through AMCAS!

How many matriculants, and what were their average MCAT and GPA?

 

[flatbear]

No mediums, just the 80/20 rule

nothing like playing fast and loose with med school admissions

 

[p0gono]

Anyone interviewed here yet?

 

[mats7]

MCAT = 32.2
GPA = 3.48

 

[Ostallopathic]

MCAT = 32.2
GPA = 3.48

Source: http://medicine.cnsu.edu/shareddocs/DemographicData.pdf

 

[flatbear]

huh its not on msar yet

 

[Goro]

LizzyM score of 67. Pretty much at the bottom of private MD schools in the US, and a tad above CCOM and the coastal Touros.

Source: http://medicine.cnsu.edu/shareddocs/DemographicData.pdf

 

[Ostallopathic]

LizzyM score of 67. Pretty much at the bottom of private MD schools in the US, and a tad above CCOM and the coastal Touros.

Yup. Barely above Touro CA's class of 2019.

3.5/31 vs 3.5/32.

 

[DO2015CA]

LizzyM score of 67. Pretty much at the bottom of private MD schools in the US, and a tad above CCOM and the coastal Touros.

They also threw that class together in 2 months so all of the California kids were already committed to other schools along with being the first class. I'm sure it will get more on par this year. Goro I know you're not a fan of it but people's desire to stay in California (which I don't get. I don't particularly care for the state) will cause them to accept subpar standards to do so

 

[heebeejeebies]

Looks like they're Canadian friendly, UBC and McMasters [sic] students in inaugural class.

 

[allantois]

There are too many qualified applicants to go around so this school is not going to go anywhere. Their not so low stats are also showing students' preference for an MD school.

 

[leela13]

Current student here! Was waitlisted at (and later rejected from) several CA MD schools. Got accepted at the CA DO schools, but ultimately picked CNU (sorry Goro) for a a number of reasons. I love my school and I am incredibly happy here. Feel free to PM me with any questions

 

[pageantry]

Current student here! Was waitlisted at (and later rejected from) several CA MD schools. Got accepted at the CA DO schools, but ultimately picked CNU (sorry Goro) for a a number of reasons. I love my school and I am incredibly happy here. Feel free to PM me with any questions

Leela! You made it! That's awesome.
How's the water there?

 

[flatbear]

Current student here! Was waitlisted at (and later rejected from) several CA MD schools. Got accepted at the CA DO schools, but ultimately picked CNU (sorry Goro) for a a number of reasons. I love my school and I am incredibly happy here. Feel free to PM me with any questions

Have you guys gotten any early clinical experience yet? opportunities to work in clinic type things?

 

[leela13]

Leela! You made it! That's awesome.
How's the water there?

The water is magnificent! Much better than San Diego's haha.

 

[leela13]

Have you guys gotten any early clinical experience yet? opportunities to work in clinic type things?

We have an afternoon dedicated to clinical skills every Thursday, where we practice in OSCE rooms with standardized patients. We don't have a free clinic yet, but I'm told we will be able to start volunteering at a nearby existing one starting in the Spring. We did have a giant health fair in October for members of the Sacramento community where we got to practice some of our clinical skills.

 

[efle]

Ohhh man, dating your classmates in a 60 person group? In the first year no less...a dangerous game

 

[p0gono]

Haha relatedly, I heard there are something like 3 couples within one year at CCLCM. That's 6/32. Yikes! Rumor though.

 

[samac]

Id be pissed if someone came airing I was part of a couple on an anonymous website, even with initials. I doubt with a class of 60 there are many repeat initials.

And also dating in your class of 60 seems like an awful idea. It seems like an awful idea in my class of 140.

 

[el_duderino]

Id be pissed if someone came airing I was part of a couple on an anonymous website, even with initials.

Right?

Don't post gossip about your classmates on SDN.

 

[Glandzburg]

Hi All,
Just for fun if the rest of our class sees this, but also to keep anonymity...couples (girls and boys respectively) of our class using their initials...

That is an extremely not cool move, to put it mildly...

Also, I don't think it would be too tough for your classmates to figure out who you are. Assuming you aren't one of the ten people you mentioned, that leaves fifty. Your profile also says you are male, which leaves roughly 25 people to choose from. You don't think someone could figure you out based on the way you communicate? Good luck if that happens... you'll be Mr. Popular.

 

[JustAPhD]

That is an extremely not cool move, to put it mildly...

Also, I don't think it would be too tough for your classmates to figure out who you are. Assuming you aren't one of the ten people you mentioned, that leaves fifty. Your profile also says you are male, which leaves roughly 25 people to choose from. You don't think someone could figure you out based on the way you communicate? Good luck if that happens... you'll be Mr. Popular.

I was uncomfortable reading it so I could only imagine how the actual people would feel.

 

[DO2015CA]

its quite weird to even post something like that regardless if they care or not

 

[Henry101]

:troll:

 

[AirplaneFruit]

It seems like an awful idea in my class of 140.

Who are other people to date though? Assuming your med school is not in a huge city but a suburb or college town. Grad students?

 

[samac]

Who are other people to date though? Assuming your med school is not in a huge city but a suburb or college town. Grad students?

I am in a small town. Grad students. Nursing students are quite popular. Or class up/class down. At least you're not in the same room with them all the time.
But the drama dating in class is ridiculous.

 

[DO2015CA]

Elk Grove isn't a small town in the middle of nowhere. Plus sac is right next to it with plenty of people

 

[Pusheen]

Well this thread took an unexpected turn

 

[SDN]

Forum etiquette note: Please don't post other people's personal information without their consent.

 

[SPDF]

Sorry, internet has been a bad, but I want to apologize to my classmates about my old post. I had no ill-intent with that, I meant it completely as a compliment to how close our small student body is.

I also want to apologize to the people I [not-so] anonymously mentioned. I truly thought it was okay given how open and public the 10 of you are about your relationships. Bad judgement.

 

[Med Ed]

Sorry, internet has been a bad, but I want to apologize to my classmates about my old post. I had no ill-intent with that, I meant it completely as a compliment to how close our small student body is.

I also want to apologize to the people I [not-so] anonymously mentioned. I truly thought it was okay given how open and public the 10 of you are about your relationships. Bad judgement.

I admit, I am still perplexed as to what reaction you wanted to elicit from the audience here. Were you trying to humanize Northstate?

 

[Verbatim Disk]

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[SPDF]

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[Med Ed]

Jesus guys. I did not even mention my school's name in my other post considering it was in another topic. You guys are ****ing sleuths. Still don't believe I said anything really malicious.

So you would be okay if the 19 women in your class knew about your SDN activities, in particular the one who is getting "nailed" by your friend?

 

[Verbatim Disk]

So you would be okay if the 19 women in your class knew about your SDN activities, in particular the one who is getting "nailed" by your friend?

Yeah, it's just wrong.

 

[4401]

I still attend to matriculate at CNUCOM this Fall, but I am admittedly a bit perturbed. I've been pressing (for months) the Financial Aid office to apply for eligibility to receive post 9/11 GI Bill benefits from the Veterans Administration (VA). I am a Veteran (still serving) and am eligible for such benefits -- which would be paid directly from the VA to CNUCOM to defray/offset tuition costs.

As of today, no decision has been made.

To be perfectly candid, I think it's absurd that a Veteran can receive federal financial support to study at 665 institutes, schools, colleges, and universities in California -- to include such august institutions like Bergin University of Canine Studies, California Hair Design Academy, and the Professional Golfers Career College -- but cannot receive such support to study Pharmacy or Medicine at California Northstate University.

Again, I plan to matriculate -- but I am disappointed, nonetheless. Just another data point/personal anecdote for this thread.

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MUELLER COLLEGE
MUSICIANS INSTITUTE
NAPA VALLEY COLLEGE
NATIONAL CAREER COLLEGE
NATIONAL UNIVERSITY-SAN DIEGO
NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL
NEWSCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE & DESIGN
NEW YORK FILM ACADEMY
NORCO COLLEGE
NORTHWESTERN POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY
NORTHWEST UNIVERSITY-SACRAMENTO
NORTHWOOD UNIVERSITY
NOTRE DAME DE NAMUR UNIVERSITY
OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE
OHLONE COLLEGE
ORANGE COAST COLLEGE
ORANGE COUNTY ELECTRICAL JAC
OTIS COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN
OXNARD COLLEGE
PACIFICA GRADUATE INSTITUTE
PACIFIC COAST UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW
PACIFIC COLLEGE
PACIFIC COLLEGE OF ORIENTAL MEDICINE-SAN DIEGO
PACIFIC HOSPITAL OF LONG BEACH
PACIFIC LUTHERAN THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY
PACIFIC OAKS COLLEGE
PACIFIC SCHOOL OF RELIGION
PACIFIC UNION COLLEGE
PACIFIC WEST COLLEGE OF LAW
PALMER COLLEGE OF CHIROPRACTIC-DAVENPORT
PALO ALTO UNIVERSITY
PALOMAR COLLEGE
PALO VERDE COLLEGE
PARDEE RAND GRADUATE SCHOOL
PARK UNIVERSITY-BARSTOW
PARK UNIVERSITY-FORT IRWIN
PARK UNIVERSITY-PENDLETON
PARK UNIVERSITY-VICTOR VALLEY COLLEGE
PASADENA CITY COLLEGE
PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY
PHILLIPS GRADUATE INSTITUTE
PIMA MEDICAL INSTITUTE-CHULA VISTA
PINNACLE COLLEGE
PITZER COLLEGE
PLATT COLLEGE-LOS ANGELES
PLATT COLLEGE-ONTARIO
PLATT COLLEGE-RIVERSIDE
PLATT COLLEGE-SAN DIEGO
POINT LOMA NAZARENE UNIVERSITY
POMONA COLLEGE
PORTERVILLE COLLEGE
PRESIDIO GRADUATE SCHOOL
PROFESSIONAL GOLFERS CAREER COLLEGE
PROJECT IMPACT SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION
PSYCHOANALYTIC INSTITUTE OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
REEDLEY COLLEGE
RELATIVITY SCHOOL
RIO HONDO COLLEGE
RIVERSIDE CITY COLLEGE
SACRAMENTO CITY COLLEGE
SADDLEBACK COLLEGE
SAGE COLLEGE
SAINT LEO UNIVERSITY
SAINT MARY'S COLLEGE OF CALIFORNIA
SAINT PATRICK'S SEMINARY AND UNIVERSITY
SALVATION ARMY CRESTMONT COLLEGE
SAMUEL MERRITT UNIVERSITY
SAN BERNARDINO VALLEY COLLEGE
SAN DIEGO ARTHROSCOPY & SPORTS MEDICINE FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM
SAN DIEGO CHRISTIAN COLLEGE
SAN DIEGO CITY COLLEGE
SAN DIEGO HOSPICE CTR PALLIATIVE STDS
SAN DIEGO MESA COLLEGE
SAN DIEGO MIRAMAR COLLEGE
SAN DIEGO SHEET METAL JATC
SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY
SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY-COLLEGE OF EXTENDED STUDIES
SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY-IMPERIAL VALLEY CAMPUS
SAN DIEGO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
SAN FRANCISCO ART INSTITUTE
SAN FRANCISCO CONSERVATORY OF MUSIC
SAN FRANCISCO LAW SCHOOL
SAN FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY
SAN FRANCISCO THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY
SAN JOAQUIN COLLEGE OF LAW
SAN JOAQUIN DELTA COLLEGE
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-BAKERSFIELD
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-CHULA VISTA
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-FRESNO
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-FRESNO AVIATION
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-HESPERIA
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-LANCASTER
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-MODESTO
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-ONLINE CAMPUS- CENTRAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-ONTARIO
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-RANCHO CORDOVA
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-TEMECULA
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY COLLEGE-VISALIA
SAN JOSE CITY COLLEGE
SAN JOSE STATE UNIVERSITY
SANTA ANA COLLEGE
SANTA BARBARA BUSINESS COLLEGE-BAKERSFIELD
SANTA BARBARA BUSINESS COLLEGE-RANCHO MIRAGE
SANTA BARBARA BUSINESS COLLEGE-SANTA BARBARA
SANTA BARBARA BUSINESS COLLEGE-SANTA MARIA
SANTA BARBARA BUSINESS COLLEGE-VENTURA
SANTA BARBARA BUSINESS COLLEGE-VENTURA
SANTA BARBARA CITY COLLEGE
SANTA BARBARA COLLEGE OF LAW
SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY
SANTA CLARA VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER
SANTA MONICA COLLEGE
SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE
SANTIAGO CANYON COLLEGE
SAYBROOK UNIVERSITY
SCHOOL OF URBAN MISSIONS
SCRIPPS COLLEGE
SCRIPPS MERCY HOSPITAL
SCRIPPS RESEARCH INSTITUTE
SHASTA BIBLE COLLEGE AND GRADUATE SCHOOL
SHASTA COLLEGE
SHEPHERD UNIVERSITY
SIERRA COLLEGE
SIMPSON UNIVERSITY
SKYLINE COLLEGE
SOFIA UNIVERSITY
SOKA UNIVERSITY OF AMERICA
SOLANO COMMUNITY COLLEGE
SONOMA STATE UNIVERSITY
SOUTH BAYLO UNIVERSITY
SOUTH COAST COLLEGE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTURE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF LAW-SANTA BARBARA
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY-ANAHEIM
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SEMINARY
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY OF HEALTH SCIENCES
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY-CORONADO
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY-MORENO VALLEY
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY-NAVAL HOSPITAL
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY-PALOMAR
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY-WALNUT
SOUTHERN STATES UNIVERSITY
SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE
SOUTHWESTERN LAW SCHOOL
SPARTAN COLLEGE OF AERONAUTICS AND TECHNOLOGY
SPRINGFIELD COLLEGE
STANBRIDGE COLLEGE
STANFORD UNIVERSITY
STARR KING SCHOOL FOR MINISTRY
ST JOHN'S SEMINARY
ST MARY'S MEDICAL CENTER
TAFT COLLEGE
THE AMERICAN MUSICAL AND DRAMATIC ACADEMY
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY HOLLYWOOD
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY INLAND EMPIRE
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY LOS ANGELES
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY ORANGE COUNTY
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY SACRAMENTO
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY SAN DIEGO
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY SAN FRANCISCO
THE ART INSTITUTE OF CALIFORNIA-ARGOSY UNIVERSITY-SILICON VALLEY
THEATRE OF ARTS
THE CHICAGO SCHOOL OF PROFESSIONAL PSYCHOLOGY AT LOS ANGELES
THE KING'S UNIVERSITY
THE LOS ANGELES FILM SCHOOL
THE MASTER'S COLLEGE AND SEMINARY
THE MASTER'S COLLEGE AND SEMINARY
THE UNIVERSITY OF SILICON VALLEY LAW SCHOOL
THOMAS AQUINAS COLLEGE
THOMAS JEFFERSON SCHOOL OF LAW
TOURO UNIVERSITY CALIFORNIA
TOURO UNIVERSITY WORLDWIDE
TRIDENT UNIVERSITY INTERNATIONAL
TRINITY LAW SCHOOL
UCLA CENTER FOR PREHOSPITAL CARE/EMT EDUCATION PGM
UNION INSTITUTE & UNIVERSITY
UNION INSTITUTE & UNIVERSITY LOS ANGELES ACADEMIC CENTER
UNITED EDUCATION INSTITUTE-CHULA VISTA
UNITED EDUCATION INSTITUTE-EL MONTE
UNITED EDUCATION INSTITUTE-HUNTINGTON PARK
UNITED STATES UNIVERSITY
UNITEK COLLEGE - FREMONT
UNIVERSITY OF ANTELOPE VALLEY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-BERKELEY
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-DAVIS
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-DAVIS EXT
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-HASTINGS COLLEGE OF THE LAW
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-IRVINE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-IRVINE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA IRVINE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES EXT
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-MERCED
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-RIVERSIDE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-RIVERSIDE EXT
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SAN DIEGO EXT
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SAN DIEGO MEDICAL CENTER
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SAN FRANCISCO
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SANTA BARBARA
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SANTA CRUZ
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA-SANTA CRUZ EXT
UNIVERSITY OF EAST-WEST MEDICINE
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-BAKERSFIELD
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-BURBANK
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-COLLEGE OF LAW
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-INLAND EMPIRE
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-IRVINE
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-OXNARD
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-PORT HUENEME
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-SAN LUIS OBISPO
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-VANDENBERG AFB
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE-VICTORVILLE
UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND - UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX-BAY AREA CAMPUS
UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX-SACRAMENTO VALLEY CAMPUS
UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX-SAN DIEGO CAMPUS
UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX-SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CAMPUS
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-BURBANK
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-RANCHO CUCAMONGA
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-REDLANDS
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-RIVERSIDE
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-SOUTH COAST METRO
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-TEMECULA
UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS-TORRANCE
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO
UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO SCHOOL OF LAW
UNIVERSITY OF SAN FRANCISCO
UNIVERSITY OF SAN FRANCISCO
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
UNIVERSITY OF ST AUGUSTINE FOR HEALTH SCIENCES
UNIVERSITY OF THE PACIFIC
UNIVERSITY OF THE PACIFIC
UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST
USC-KECK SCHOOL OF MEDICINE-DEPT OF RADIOLOGY PET CT FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM
VALLEY COLLEGE OF MEDICAL CAREERS
VA LONG BEACH HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
VA LOS ANGELES HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
VA MEDICAL CENTER
VANGUARD UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
VA PALO ALTO HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
VENTURA COLLEGE
VENTURA COLLEGE OF LAW
VICTOR VALLEY COLLEGE
VINCENNES UNIVERSITY
WEBSTER UNIVERSITY
WEBSTER UNIVERSITY
WESTCLIFF UNIVERSITY
WEST COAST ULTRASOUND INSTITUTE
WEST COAST ULTRASOUND INSTITUTE - ONTARIO
WEST COAST UNIVERSITY-NORTH HOLLYWOOD
WEST COAST UNIVERSITY-ONTARIO
WEST COAST UNIVERSITY-ORANGE COUNTY
WESTERN SEMINARY
WESTERN SEMINARY
WESTERN SIERRA LAW SCHOOL
WESTERN STATE COLLEGE OF LAW AT ARGOSY UNIVERSITY
WESTERN UNIVERSITY OF HEALTH SCIENCES
WEST HILLS COLLEGE-LEMOORE
WEST LOS ANGELES COLLEGE
WESTMINSTER THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN CALIFORNIA
WESTMONT COLLEGE
WEST VALLEY COLLEGE
WHITTIER COLLEGE
WHITTIER COLLEGE
WILLIAM JESSUP UNIVERSITY
WOODBURY UNIVERSITY
WOODLAND COMMUNITY COLLEGE
YO SAN UNIVERSITY OF TRADITIONAL CHINESE MEDICINE
YUBA COLLEGE

http://www.benefits.va.gov/gibill/school_locator.asp

 

[Goro]

I get your point, and it does say something about CNU, but did you really have to post the names of every college in CA???

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

I really thought we were done talking about this