Class of 2016....how ya doing?

[WhtsThFrequency]

Yes and nearly every girl in my class has a massive crush on him, (although strangely, not me. I have a different "type") which he cemented by serenading us with his fiddle last year.

Oh, the magical weapon of the ubernerd!

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[twelvetigers]

We all decided that he was making ****e up really..... that was the only think we could think of.

I have "hepatoencephalopathy" for those two. I guess that's a bit vague. Ah well.

 

[twelvetigers]

Huh. I had just assumed that most path exams were like ours with lots of pictures and short answer and "Explain the pathogenesis of..." type questions. Scantron path exams... Yuck. I would have bombed.

We had scratch-off multiple choice exams. It was good, because if you missed one, you could scratch off a second one for half credit, so it was like getting two chances. It was bad because having to scratch off and see if I got it right really psyched me out and I hated it. Stressful.

All MC just the same, just weird.

 

[DVMDream]

D'awww.

Yeah, I don't like subjective questions. I also don't like how pathology (and histology) are taught in many schools. Too much minutiae without enough explanation of HOW it happens and why. To be fair, it's kind of hard for us pathologists. We really like what we do and it's sometimes hard for us to stop getting into the minutiae that we thing is feckin amazing but normal people dont . It isn't that we're trying to be dicks, it's more that we love what we do so much that we try to pass it on. and since most pathology stuff isn't what you guys will use in practice, it gets lost. We're not trying to trick you with questions - vet students are so prone to overanalyzing.

I agree with this, if they would put it into some type of context like... x does y to b which explains why you see a, f and g in whatever organ, then it would be so much better, that would make it stick in my head. But, getting essentially a list of.... x causes a, f and g changes on histology and I feel like I am just memorizing things and spitting them back out. Granted, they don't do that with everything here and they try to give us a good clinical context when they can, but sometimes it feels like I am just spitting back information that I have memorized for whatever reason.

Our exam is 50/50.... we have a MCQ portion and then a written exam with pictures... which will basically be... what organ and species is this? Describe the lesion? What is the likely aetiological agent (if pathognomic, if not then it will ask for a few likely ones), what it the pathogenesis? What would be seen on histology?

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

I'm going to be the best pathology professor ever. And you all will make all of the kids who shadow you come to my school.

I am building an ARMY.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Our exam is 50/50.... we have a MCQ portion and then a written exam with pictures... which will basically be... what organ and species is this? Describe the lesion? What is the likely aetiological agent (if pathognomic, if not then it will ask for a few likely ones), what it the pathogenesis? What would be seen on histology?

How do you expect to be a vet when you can't spell werds gud.

 

[DVMDream]

How do you expect to be a vet when you can't spell werds gud.

I seriously think I have lost my ability to spell some things though since moving to the UK... I will sit there and go... does this word have an extra, lame vowel in it? Is it a, o, or e? Maybe it doesn't have an extra vowel? Then, I will just write something and go... meh, close enough...

(In this case, aetiological is the correct UK version... I did have to make sure though... )

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

I seriously think I have lost my ability to spell some things though since moving to the UK... I will sit there and go... does this word have an extra, lame vowel in it? Is it a, o, or e? Maybe it doesn't have an extra vowel? Then, I will just write something and go... meh, close enough...

(In this case, aetiological is the correct UK version... I did have to make sure though... )

I know silly I'm half Brit

 

[DVMDream]

I know silly I'm half Brit

I know you know (and I knew about the Brit part too)... lol.

I wasn't completely sure (with the spelling), I had to look. I figured you were just teasing and then I was like... did I use the wrong vowel?

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

I like oesophagus.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

And edema

I edema

Oedema. STOP TRYING TO CORRECT ME IPAD SPELLCHECK.

 

[DVMDream]

Yes, and diarrhoea (this one is hard for me)
and foetus
and anaemia (pretty much anything ending in emia---> aemia) (this becomes even more funny when our one prof says it "an I me a"
So, hyercalaemia, hypoglycaemia, etc

I always remember esophagus is "O" esophagus... I don't why... I am odd.

 

[Escalla]

I always remember esophagus is "O" esophagus... I don't why... I am odd.

That's how I read it...

 

[DVMDream]

Antimicrobial Rhapsody..... (because studying the normal way is boring)

Is this the antimicrobial life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a bacteria-slide
No escape from reality

Destroy your cell wall
Look to the Penicillins and see
I’m just a poor antimicrobial, I need no sympathy
Because I’m easy come, easy go
Need to be high, not go low
Any way the gram negatives go, doesn’t really matter to me, to me.

Veterinarian, just killed a man
Put choloramphenicols in his meat
Aplastic anemia, now he’s dead
Mama, my career had just begun
But now I’ve gone and thrown it all away

Macrolides, ooh
Translocation has run dry,
If bacterial proteins aren’t back this time tomorrow,
Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters

Too late, the sulphonamides have come
Blocked protein synthesis at its spine,
Diaminopyrimidines helping all the time,
Goodbye everybody, Staph. has got to go,
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth

Anitmicrobials, ooh
I don’t wanna die,
I sometimes wish I’d never been replicated at all

I see a little silhouette of an anaerobe
Anaerobe, Anaerobe will you escape the Fluoroquinolone?
Thunderbolt and Lightning
Very, very frightening me!
(Metronidazole) Metronidazole
(Metronidazole) Metronidazole
Metronidazole killed the anaerobe!
Magnifico!

I’m just a poor bacteria and nobody loves me
He’s just a poor bacteria from a poor family
Spare him his life from these antimicrobosity!

Easy come, easy go, will you let the bacteria go?
Bismillah! No, we will not let you go!
(Let him go!) Bismillah, we will not let you go!
(Let him go!) Bismillah, we will not let you go!
(Let him go!) Will not let you go!
(Let him go!) Will not let you go!
(Never, never, never let me go!) Ah!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no
(Oh, antimicrobi-mia, antimicrobi-mia) antimicrobi-mia, let me go!
Veterinarian has an antimicrobial put aside for me, for me, for me!

So, you think you can destroy my proteins and split my cell wall!
So, you think you can love me and leave me to fall!
Oh, antimicrobial, can’t do this to me, antimicrobial
Just gotta resist, just gotta become resistant right here!

Nothing really matters,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
To me

Any way the antimicrobial blows…

 

[nyanko]

That's why I want to get into teaching. Academia pays crap and all, but I think that pathology gets a bad rap and that students could learn so much more effectively. I would always tell me fourth years on the first day of rotation - "My goal is not to make you love necropsy. My goal is not to make you love pathology. My goal is not to make you memorize stuff that you will never use. My goal is to help you understand the WHY of medicine - WHY these lesions look like they do, WHY you choose one treatment over another, WHY the animal is going to present the way it does because of what is happening on a cellular level"

Pathology isn't just about microscopes and necropsy, it is about learning the whys and hows of medicine. And I think that gets kind of lost in the curriculum.

Actually I had great faculty & residents during my anatomic path rotation this year and absolutely LOVED it. Didn't see that one coming at all.

 

[Jamr0ckin]

Study day today then finals start.

On a aside note, surgery went awesome. Had a chihuahua spay. From open to close it only took me 70 minutes, and I'm quite proud of that.

 

[NStarz]

2 finals left! Neuro (my favorite class so far in vet school!) and repro/therio. Slightly concerned about neuro because they're showing us videos during the exam and we have to localize lesions based on the neuro exams. I know this stuff really well, but I feel like I will forget it all under pressure. So far doing pretty well, not as many A's as I would like, though. I'm kind of resigned to the fact that I will not get the elusive 3.5 I need to obtain for the most awesomest internships. I'm not 100% sure I'll be pursuing a residency (want to do ER med, so can work with just an internship), so it may not be that bad if I can't get into somewhere like AMC or Angell. But I wanted to keep the option open. In the mean time, just trucking on through! Good luck to the rest of you on your finals!!

 

[NStarz]

Neuro exam went SPLENDIDLY. I am so freaking happy. I hope I did well!!!! Just repro/therio left tomorrow and then I'm FREE.

 

[orca2011]

Path exam was eh, but I'm free!!!!

 

[DVMDream]

OSCE and first 1/2 of path exam done. Second 1/2 of path and CFC ( ) are all that stand between me and freedom!!!

 

[DVMDream]

Can not focus at all....

I have now listened to a ****e ton of music and sang (sung? my brain has a fart) (horribly) at the top of my lungs, I stitched up a hole in my giraffe stuffed animal, and I have watched random youtube videos....

I should be studying for my pathology spot exam tomorrow, but I just can't focus...

 

[DVMDream]

I am freeeeee!!!!!

It was rather nice during that last final to look up to think for a few minutes about your answer and be able to enjoy this as your lecture theatre:

 

[Jamr0ckin]

Halfway to clinics! ! !

Feels gooooood!

 

[ky261682]

I am done! 3 glorious weeks of freedom!

 

[CanHardlyWait]

Sooooo jealous of everyone that is done for the semester! I had 6 exams in 5 days last week and I'm still studying for 2 more Plus one is therio Can't wait for Thursday afternoon!

 

[NStarz]

What's on the books for everyone next semester? We're finishing up our systems courses, mostly

Cardio
Respiratory
Integumentary
GI
Professional Development IV
Parasitology (again, ugh. I hate worms)
Clin vet med experience (more shadowing in the hospital, writing SOAPS)
Animal welfare

And then electives:
ECG
Intro to shelter med
Disaster response
Shelter enrichment
ER volunteer program

I'm also super excited because I'm going to do some cat neuters next week! My first real surgery (besides the half of a rabbit spay I did...but this will be survival!)

 

[DVMDream]

We have Integrated Clinical Course: Dog and Cat, it includes:

Reproduction
Neurology
Dentistry
Gastroenterology
Ophthalmology
Urology
Haematology
Dermatology
Endocrinology
Infectious Diseases
Toxicology
Cardiology
Respiratory System
Musculoskeletal
Soft Tissue Surgery

We also have Professional and Clinical Skills, which carries out throughout the year, every year.

 

[NStarz]

We have Integrated Clinical Course: Dog and Cat, it includes:

Reproduction
Neurology
Dentistry
Gastroenterology
Ophthalmology
Urology
Haematology
Dermatology
Endocrinology
Infectious Diseases
Toxicology
Cardiology
Respiratory System
Musculoskeletal
Soft Tissue Surgery

We also have Professional and Clinical Skills, which carries out throughout the year, every year.

Holy crapola. That's a lot of systems courses! Are they all taken at the same time? Or are they in like 2 week blocks?

 

[DVMDream]

Holy crapola. That's a lot of systems courses! Are they all taken at the same time? Or are they in like 2 week blocks?

All at once. The exam will cover all of them too. It is only cat and dog. We learn all about cat and dog this semester, then next year is farm animal, equine and exotics.

 

[StartingoverVet]

All at once. The exam will cover all of them too. It is only cat and dog. We learn all about cat and dog this semester, then next year is farm animal, equine and exotics.

So LA people will be totally unmotivated this semester, and then SA people will be totally unmotivated for a full year.

Not sure I'd approve of that structure.

 

[Escalla]

So LA people will be totally unmotivated this semester, and then SA people will be totally unmotivated for a full year.

Not sure I'd approve of that structure.

Nah, LA people would be unmotivated by exotics too. It's just broken up.

Interesting concept though. The comparative set-up I'm going through is a pain.

 

[DVMDream]

So LA people will be totally unmotivated this semester, and then SA people will be totally unmotivated for a full year.

Not sure I'd approve of that structure.

Yeah, I will be completely unmotivated all year next year....

Although, not sure anyone was motivated this past semester with pharm/oncology/pathology/radiology, etc.

 

[Jamr0ckin]

We are also continuing our systems...

Nervous System
Alimentary System
Endocrine System
Opthalmology
Pharmacology II

And electives,
I'm taking Pain Management

 

[orca2011]

All semester:
Pharmacology/Toxicology
Intro to Clin Med IV
Medicine/Surgery I
Clinical Pathology

Only for a quarter:
Intro to Poultry/swine/dairy
Orthopedics
Anesthesia
Epidemiology
Veterinary Public Health
Infectious and Metabolic Disease:

Electives:
Equine Neonatology and Intensive care (not sure if I'm actually in this one yet)
Global Health

 

[CanHardlyWait]

Ugg-too soon to be talking about next semester guys.
I'm finally done with my semester!!!!!!! and passed everything

 

[DVMDream]

When does everyone start back?

I just got back to the land of Scot today..... classes start on Monday..... Don't make me!!!

 

[orca2011]

We started yesterday...with class from 9-7. I wanted to die. But we had a snow day today!

 

[devyn]

Ugh... I went through copying the semester schedule into my personal calendar so it will show up in my phone and freaked the ****e out of myself.... it looks so daunting... I want to keel over

And I won't find out if I passed last semester's classes till after I start these new classes... I almost had another panic attack last night about it....

Keeps getting harder and I am getting more and more stressed and worried

and that is not my personality at all

 

[NStarz]

Classes start on Monday for us. Blech. And I think I'm getting sick. And we're supposed to get 6-8 inches of snow on Sunday. Lovely.

 

[CanHardlyWait]

We start back Jan 21st-2 more glorious weeks of freedom!

 

[Jamr0ckin]

Start back on Wednesday. I'm torn on if I want to go back.

I'm honestly just counting down the days for NAVC!

 

[DVMDream]

This girl in my class, she is still an absolute royal bitch. I don't normally hope that people will get kicked out, but for the sake of the profession, pets and clients, I hope they kick this bitch out and soon.

 

[Trilt]

We've got: clin path, systemic path, pharmacology, nutrition, epidemiology, teaching animal unit and exotics PE skills this semester. Started back today... also just waiting for my exotics conference this weekend and NAVC next.

 

[Jamr0ckin]

We've got: clin path, systemic path, pharmacology, nutrition, epidemiology, teaching animal unit and exotics PE skills this semester. Started back today... also just waiting for my exotics conference this weekend and NAVC next.

I will be at both of those conferences as well... SDN meet-up mandatory!

 

[devyn]

1.5 wks till classes start..... I don't wanna.....

 

[Jamr0ckin]

Almost to the end of our first week(of only 3 days) and I can tell this semester is going to be interesting.

Our 8 am lecture is often Alimentary and right now it is taught by an older vet (Re: graduated in the early 60s I believe) and he has us do exercises for the first few minutes of class. And they are neatly described: chicken leg, elephant trunk, baby bunny run...

We don't have Optho until next week and I really can't wait... I love the eyeball!

 

[kaydubs]

Our 8 am lecture is often Alimentary and right now it is taught by an older vet (Re: graduated in the early 60s I believe) and he has us do exercises for the first few minutes of class. And they are neatly described: chicken leg, elephant trunk, baby bunny run...

Those are adorable! We started Monday.

We actually didn't have any carryover classes. We've got ACE, clin pharm, clin genetics, diagnostic imaging, cardio, endocrine, GI, repro, and skeletal pathophys, ethics, hemi-lymphatic & clin path, intro to zoo med, public health, and principles of sx.

 

[NStarz]

We've only had 3 days of classes so far, and I'm already feeling overwhelmed. People weren't kidding when they said this semester's evil... ugh Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...

 

[hopefulinva]

Oh jeez you guys.
Good luck with everything. <3

I'm still taking advantage of the next few weeks of not-class to organize my life and sleep. This break has been ridiculously busy and I still am feeling exhausted! Ack!

 

[NStarz]

Totally just googled something in my notes that I didn't understand. It brought me to pages concerning viagra. I don't think my notes were talking about viagra...