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I figured one should be started since there isn't any. I haven't taken it yet, but apparently it's very OB/GYN and peds heavy this year.
Anyone know how to prepare for the heavily tested ob/gyn and peds material?
I know when I took COMLEX level 1, the ob/gyn questions I got hit with, I don't think I knew where I could've studied that stuff even if I had tried.
My COMLEX 2 experience: it was a bloodbath
I was pretty well-prepared too. 681 on COMSAE C the night before the real deal. About 74% on Quest, I think. I have no idea what my score is yet (only took it a couple weeks ago), but the test was flat out nasty.
The possibility exists that I just have a bad feeling about it because I was pissed off the whole day. After I checked in, put all my crap in a locker, and waited around forever, the lady at prometric told me she wasn't going to let me test since I arrived late, even though I was actually there about 15 minutes early. I was on hold with prometric candidate care when she came back out and told me she changed her mind and was going to let me test after all. I was fired up though. It sort of set the stage for my temper for the rest of the day.
I don't know. It just seemed tough. It probably wasn't nearly as hard as I am thinking.What a ****storm. I love the authority of some idiot behind the counter.
So why do you think it was a bloodbath? You seem to be pretty well prepped for it. Any advice?
I thought it was alot less peds and ob/gyn heavy than i expected. Comlex is such a strange test. You never have any idea whats gonna be on it and there are not really any great sources for studying for this test. The good thing is that most of the stuff people get wrong are things nobody could have known. Unfortunately its all about how good of a test taker you are or how lucky you get. If you are a hard worker and a better than average test taker i would just take USMLE. USMLE is a pretty consistent test and is easier to prepare for. The only people who should study hard for COMLEX are the Derm and Ortho gunners who need to do well on comlex.
Oddly enough, I just read a study that showed a pretty strong linear correlation between COMLEX scores and USMLE scores among residency applicants. Meaning, people who got a 500 on COMLEX, were likely to have gotten a 220 on USMLE. For both steps 1 and 2. I expected the COMLEX 2 scores to be a crappier predictor based on what people are saying.
I think the weird, random questions stand out in people's minds (out of 400!) because they're more memorable. But, at the same time, there should be lots of questions that you know and can figure out what they're looking for.
I hope. Let you know after Friday. Gulp.
There are clearly multiple forms out there. Also, on what sounds like an "easy" form like this one, you have to get more correct to get the same score as more wrong on a hard one. So, a hard form with 70% correct and an easy form with 75% correct might both be a 550.
Still, that makes me feel better. Praying for this form.
I'll post that article sometime this weekend after my test tomorrow (and I'll let you know how it goes).
same for me. There seems to be more questions toward preventitive medicine this time. some questions make you go wtf, and some that were like OH THAT's IT?Took it today also. Had a large share of obgyn and peds, as expected, but also a large amount of neuro/psych kind of questions (various forms of dementia vs delirium). Some specific psych drug treatments.
Didn't have too much OMM actually. There were of course quite a bit of viscerosomatics, but the other OMM questions were fairly weird, various lower extremity crap. A couple of cranial, couple sacrum.
Quite a bit of law/ethics questions, sometimes seemed like 2 right answers. Overall COMBANK should prepare you OK, though.
Know your HIV complications.
Had 1 stats calculation that was straight forward, and 5 other stat-like questions that was not in first aid, no idea where those came from.
Decent amount of male sexual infertility type of questions.
Decent amount of GI.
The rest was spread out. Definitely felt like a pretty broad test. Not as much MSK/nerve injury questions as I thought there would be.
Bleh... don't feel like I rocked it, but we'll see how it goes.
Master The Boards Step 2CK. Good book but weak in obgyn and neuro. Otherwise very decent.
Filled in holes with First Aid Step 2CK. Savarese for OMM.
COMBANK was good prep, especially for ethics/legal terms. Money for those questions... Comquest I just mainly did OMM/jurisprudence/Obgyn... was alright but not as great as COMBANK.
USMLE 2 CK in just under 2 weeks for me... gaaaaah
Just wanted to take this opportunity to emphasize the divergent nature of the COMLEX vs USMLE (for those that might be taking it next year or something).
Studying for USMLE Step 1 and then adding some OMM may work for Level/Step 1, but I think this method is less effective for Step 2. Why? Because my COMLEX had maybe 10% of the test as pure internal medicine questions. USMLE? Probably has 40-50%, if not more.
If you were to study for USMLE and try to apply that to the COMLEX, you may not do as well as you think simply because the content of the tests is much different.
Definitely two different tests, that do not test the same things, as previous posters have alluded.
Anyway, others may agree or disagree, just my two cents. Good luck everybody.
well said. moving on manI just took this thing yesterday...wow.
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Best bio stats prep is definitely Secrets. I could answer almost every bio stats question from that, although I did take 2 easy basic stats classes in college...
Agree with much of the above, sounds like we had the same test. I highly recommend the Kaplan videos now. They're very good at prepping you for what to do when the "real" next best step isn't there (which happens often as explained above).
The most cost effective treatment is the cheapest one that works the best. Study designs were a little more than I was prepared for.
I agree that it was a very non-zebra test, which I like. You actually had to know lipid cutoffs and important things (mostly) rather than zebras like Prader Willi. Green OMM was good, but make sure to do all the questions and explanations in the back.
TT, I think scores are taking around 4 weeks or so.
Thats interesting. I have been trying to figure out how they distribute the questions of these tests. I didn't have any "most cost effective" questions, and the stats questions were not in secrets, first aid, or any kaplan material as I tried to go back and look them up.
well said. moving on man
Have you gone through conquest as well?Anyone else take the test recently? I take mine on the 4th. Just plan on runnign through step up and combank until then
Hey Vergie- I too felt that my test was pretty straightforward. I was getting scared cause it seemed that people that did well thought it was an ambiguous test or something. I'm not sure if I just got an easier version or it was due to my hard work and preparation but I thought the exam was pretty fair and almost a little too easy at times. Hopefully that doesn't translate to a fail. YIKES !!I just took it today and thought it had a pretty good amount of OB questions. Lots of this G3P2 pregnant girl shows up with a problem crap. Most of it was pretty straightforward though so that part wasnt that bad.
Lots of OMT. I had a couple cranial torsion rotation problems so make sure you refresh yourself on that. some ankle sprain questions, plenty of autonomics and sacral. some cervical and thoracic dysfunctions. Quite a few exhalation/inhalation dysfunctions. couple of falling forward/backward on an outstretched hand questions. I did 2 of the practice tests in savarese but I'm thinking I prob should have done all 4 and paid closer attention to the answers. There was just a wide variety of OMT on there it seemed. Not many chapmans points for me though.
The peds wasnt that bad for me. Make sure you know your rashes that spread like rubella/measles etc. Oddly enough I felt like the "whats the best imaging study" questions were more straightforward than comquest. The Law questions were kinda bizzare but comquest helped out with some of those. Some biostats questions which wasnt too bad if you've studied for USMLE.
Just glad its over and done.
Totally agree psychpan. I only took COMLEX so I went pretty crazy with COMBANK/COMQUEST combo. I did both qbanks 3x ( 1st pass around 65% and then final pass 85%) along with Boards and Wards and Px for Boards to supplement. So I guess you can say I got pretty used to the questioning style and what "most appropriate" meant in terms of COMLEX. When test day came I was surprised that it wasn't as ambiguous as what other people have commented on.Well, it is the COMLEX so although the content of the questions wasn't particularly difficult, the ambiguity of a large number of questions would have made the whole experience pretty aggravating if I wouldn't have seen it coming. The term "most appropriate" was used all over the test, which is a pain in the ass cause then you have to determine what most approriate means. For example, it would describe a pretty obvious disease then ask "What is the most appropriate imaging study". And the answer section would contain both the gold standard, and the next best step study. So the hardest part of the exam, in my opinion, was decrypting the wording to try to figure out what the writers were actually asking. Pretty annoying. I'm glad I took the USMLE. Much harder content but at least you know what they are asking.
Glad to hear someone else with my same experience. I made guesses on the statistics portion as well. I had no idea where the heck to look up some of them. I think I may have marked 5-8 questions that I needed to go back again but otherwise everything else was pretty much what I expected.My exam was about the same as what everyone else mentioned. A TON of peds/GU/OB/GYN and then some neuro, pulm. Hardly any cardio or heme/onc. The test wasn't that hard, pretty straight forward for the most part, I just wish I had spent more time looking over the common FM problems rather than actually studying.
I had like 10 statistics questions, random study designs and sampling stuff that I made guesses on. Ofcourse some horrible pictures and xrays where you don't even know what you are looking at. Some colonscopy pictures.
Omm was probably 1/3 of the exam. Lots of UE and LE and lots and lots of ribs.
Ofcourse some horrible pictures and xrays where you don't even know what you are looking at.