CSU c/o 2020 applicants, y'all ready for this?

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Can any current students shed any light on how the DVM program is and why you chose CSU? Is it a competitive atmosphere? Are there lots of opportunities for hands-on experience in the first year?
 
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Hey, so the alternate list deal:
1. If you are an IS alternate, you are very likely to be offered at least an OOS alternate spot.
2.In the past, there have been quite a few OOS alternates between 50-100 and about 10-15 IS spots.
3.The OOS spots do move a fair bit. The IS spots generally hardly move at all, but each year is different. I was an IS alternate 2x and both times they offered me OOS spots.
4. In the past OOS spots that opened up did not receive a call until the April 15th deadline- I don't know of anyone who received an OOS spot before then. They will first go through the IS alternates and offer them an OOS spot, then they will go to the OOS alternates and start at the top and offer the OOS spots.
5. If you are an IS alternate and accept an OOS spot, you will still be on the IS alternate list and will still receive a call if you're next on the IS list up until the first day of class. After class has begun, you're stuck for all 4 years as an OOS, even if a spot opens up.
6. They will call people off the IS alternate list whenever a spot opens up, up until the second week of class.
 
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Can any current students shed any light on how the DVM program is and why you chose CSU? Is it a competitive atmosphere? Are there lots of opportunities for hands-on experience in the first year?

Every year is different so far as competitiveness goes. The 2019 class seems to be pretty diverse with some of us are really competitive and some of us are pretty chill. I love most of my class thus far. Many of the students this year are helpful and friendly. I've heard other people from previous classes who completely adored their fellow classmates and also the opposite. It just depends on the people who are in your class. The DVM program does their best to engender a spirit of cooperation and make everyone feel like they are in a team of cohorts. Vet school is a trip, you need to make friends with those around you, you're gonna be together for at least the next 4 years. CSU has the cubes for first year students, so you get to know the people in your cube of 15-20 students pretty well. I love my cube, there are some really lovely people in it. Some of the other cubes don't seem to get along quit as well as we do and others seems similar to my cube. The cubes are just rooms with assigned desks and a little kitchen area. It's nice, you can keep your stuff in the cube and hang out and study there.

I choose CSU because it was my IS, highly ranked and I finally managed to get an IS offer. My first choice would have been Oregon due to the small class size and good things I've heard about it. CSU has been great so far, though. I liked most of my professors the first semester, there are some real characters teaching at CSU. :) For the most part, my profs seemed to really care and to monitor how students were doing and offer help when they noticed help was needed. CSU offers all vet students free tutoring, a thing I took advantage of and really got a lot out of. CSU has a financial advisor available to the students as well as free counseling and help with scholarships. There are probably other resources as well, but those are the ones I'm familiar with.

To get hands-on-experience you gotta hustle. There are research opportunities that you can seek out as well as a lot of clubs that will give you hands-on experience. If you want to get hands on and have the time, you can find things to do. Honestly, I found the first semester to be pretty time consuming and hardly had time to do anything other than school. I wish I had time to participate in more of the opportunities available. I'm hoping I will be better about time management Spring semester. There are also paid research opportunities available in the summer. That all being said, I was just talking to 4th years who were commenting that it was difficult to get much surgery experience at CSU. They suggested going outside of CSU for additional surgery experience, doing externships and some of the spay/neuter trips that are offered from outside entities. I plan on doing this.
 
I choose CSU because it was my IS, highly ranked and I finally managed to get an IS offer. My first choice would have been Oregon due to the small class size and good things I've heard about it. CSU has been great so far, though. I liked most of my professors the first semester, there are some real characters teaching at CSU. :) For the most part, my profs seemed to really care and to monitor how students were doing and offer help when they noticed help was needed. CSU offers all vet students free tutoring, a thing I took advantage of and really got a lot out of. CSU has a financial advisor available to the students as well as free counseling and help with scholarships. There are probably other resources as well, but those are the ones I'm familiar with.

Thanks for your thorough response! It's awesome to hear these things. CSU is also my IS so it does make financial sense to go here, though I really do have a soft spot for Tufts which is making decision-making tough. Are you glad you ended up choosing CSU over Oregon?
 
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Every year is different so far as competitiveness goes. The 2019 class seems to be pretty diverse with some of us are really competitive and some of us are pretty chill. I love most of my class thus far. Many of the students this year are helpful and friendly. I've heard other people from previous classes who completely adored their fellow classmates and also the opposite. It just depends on the people who are in your class. The DVM program does their best to engender a spirit of cooperation and make everyone feel like they are in a team of cohorts. Vet school is a trip, you need to make friends with those around you, you're gonna be together for at least the next 4 years. CSU has the cubes for first year students, so you get to know the people in your cube of 15-20 students pretty well. I love my cube, there are some really lovely people in it. Some of the other cubes don't seem to get along quit as well as we do and others seems similar to my cube. The cubes are just rooms with assigned desks and a little kitchen area. It's nice, you can keep your stuff in the cube and hang out and study there.

I choose CSU because it was my IS, highly ranked and I finally managed to get an IS offer. My first choice would have been Oregon due to the small class size and good things I've heard about it. CSU has been great so far, though. I liked most of my professors the first semester, there are some real characters teaching at CSU. :) For the most part, my profs seemed to really care and to monitor how students were doing and offer help when they noticed help was needed. CSU offers all vet students free tutoring, a thing I took advantage of and really got a lot out of. CSU has a financial advisor available to the students as well as free counseling and help with scholarships. There are probably other resources as well, but those are the ones I'm familiar with.

To get hands-on-experience you gotta hustle. There are research opportunities that you can seek out as well as a lot of clubs that will give you hands-on experience. If you want to get hands on and have the time, you can find things to do. Honestly, I found the first semester to be pretty time consuming and hardly had time to do anything other than school. I wish I had time to participate in more of the opportunities available. I'm hoping I will be better about time management Spring semester. There are also paid research opportunities available in the summer. That all being said, I was just talking to 4th years who were commenting that it was difficult to get much surgery experience at CSU. They suggested going outside of CSU for additional surgery experience, doing externships and some of the spay/neuter trips that are offered from outside entities. I plan on doing this.
Thanks for the info! Is there anything that you wish the school could do better? Any complaints you have etc?
 
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@hersheyjack- I would have gone to Oregon if I had been accepted, but getting in as an OOS is next to impossible. I think there are 18 OOS spots and around a thousand or more people each year trying for those spots. Plus Oregon values undergraduate grades more than CSU, so my chances of getting in weren't high at all. Oregon has more hands-on opportunities and fewer students, so you get more one on one and more chances to learn, or so I've heard from recent graduates. Oregon has a lower case volume, though. Most of the students get to do quite a few surgeries- mostly spay/neuter so-before they leave, or so I've been told by Tess this summer when I toured the school and also by a recent graduate. My understanding is that they don't track at OSU, so you split your 4th year 50/50 small and large animal, something I'm not so into.

@bluenose (cute pups!!)- CSU has lots of cases and diverse cases, lots of cool technology and specialists in oncology, optho, cardio, neuro, etc- but competition to do things is pretty high. There are the other students that you're competing with to get to do stuff, but first in line are the interns and residents. So usually an intern or resident will get to do a procedure like tapping a chest vs a student. I've consistently heard 4th years talk about this. They sometimes feel more like they are being used as cheap help at the hospital than being taught the more complex stuff. It really depends on who you're working with, some of the residents/interns/faculty will try to incorporate the students in more than others and some will teach a lot more and ask the students probing question more than others. The students who hustle tend to get outside experience and then have more confidence to ask to do stuff at the hospital and seem to get more out of the experience. The students who feel insecure don't usually ask to try stuff and don't get to do as much. Being confident and assertive definitely helps with getting to do procedures. I'm expecting that I'll be responsible for ensuring that I come out of vet school with adequate practice at doing surgeries, but unfortunealy, I don't think CSU will give me that, so I'm gonna figure out other ways to get experience like externships. I wish vet school produced fully functioning, confident new vets, I mean, that's the outcome I was hoping all this tuition money would bring me if I were willing to put in the effort to learn, but I don't think that usually is the case. I wish CSU had surgeries happening earlier, like 2nd & 3rd year, and allowed students to do a variety of surgeries while being carefully monitored. There are outside programs, though that do give a student experience mostly in spay/neuter surgery, some even available to first years.
 
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@hersheyjack- I would have gone to Oregon if I had been accepted, but getting in as an OOS is next to impossible. I think there are 18 OOS spots and around a thousand or more people each year trying for those spots. Plus Oregon values undergraduate grades more than CSU, so my chances of getting in weren't high at all. Oregon has more hands-on opportunities and fewer students, so you get more one on one and more chances to learn, or so I've heard from recent graduates. Oregon has a lower case volume, though. Most of the students get to do quite a few surgeries- mostly spay/neuter so-before they leave, or so I've been told by Tess this summer when I toured the school and also by a recent graduate. My understanding is that they don't track at OSU, so you split your 4th year 50/50 small and large animal, something I'm not so into.

@bluenose (cute pups!!)- CSU has lots of cases and diverse cases, lots of cool technology and specialists in oncology, optho, cardio, neuro, etc- but competition to do things is pretty high. There are the other students that you're competing with to get to do stuff, but first in line are the interns and residents. So usually an intern or resident will get to do a procedure like tapping a chest vs a student. I've consistently heard 4th years talk about this. They sometimes feel more like they are being used as cheap help at the hospital than being taught the more complex stuff. It really depends on who you're working with, some of the residents/interns/faculty will try to incorporate the students in more than others and some will teach a lot more and ask the students probing question more than others. The students who hustle tend to get outside experience and then have more confidence to ask to do stuff at the hospital and seem to get more out of the experience. The students who feel insecure don't usually ask to try stuff and don't get to do as much. Being confident and assertive definitely helps with getting to do procedures. I'm expecting that I'll be responsible for ensuring that I come out of vet school with adequate practice at doing surgeries, but unfortunealy, I don't think CSU will give me that, so I'm gonna figure out other ways to get experience like externships. I wish vet school produced fully functioning, confident new vets, I mean, that's the outcome I was hoping all this tuition money would bring me if I were willing to put in the effort to learn, but I don't think that usually is the case. I wish CSU had surgeries happening earlier, like 2nd & 3rd year, and allowed students to do a variety of surgeries while being carefully monitored. There are outside programs, though that do give a student experience mostly in spay/neuter surgery, some even available to first years.
Thank you for your honest opinion it is really helpful! I know no one school is perfect but it is nice to hear as much as possible to help decide what qualities are the most important to specific students
 
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Sidebar: I'm currently looking at apartments with my pre-med friend. If anyone is interested in living with two girls and one to two dogs, let me know! We're aiming for cheap living if possible.
 
Congrats to all of you who got acceptances! Looking forward to meeting my classmates :) I’m a first year in the DVM/PhD program, but my first year in the DVM program will be with y’all. I moved from the east coast, and I’m happy to answer any questions about my experience so far at CSU and in Colorado!
 
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Congrats to all :) can't wait to meet my future classmates!
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on housing. Most of the housing that Im finding online have pet restrictions, and Im bringing my 3 little rascals. I don't really know the area, I've never been to Fort Collins...heck, Ive never been to Colorado. If anyone could head me in the right direction, my pups and I would really appreciate it.
 
Congrats to all :) can't wait to meet my future classmates!
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on housing. Most of the housing that Im finding online have pet restrictions, and Im bringing my 3 little rascals. I don't really know the area, I've never been to Fort Collins...heck, Ive never been to Colorado. If anyone could head me in the right direction, my pups and I would really appreciate it.
There are lots of places with pet restrictions. (Which I personally think of as dumb. Big dogs are often better apartment dogs, 2 cats are less likely to get bored and pee all over than 1...)

Just keep watching Craigslist and the CSU apartment site. We haven't really gotten into rental season yet. I know at least 3 of the bigger rental companies ask about and list non renewals in Feb/March.

The pet friendly housing is out there and it will hit the Internet soon. You will have better luck with pricing in Laporte, Wellington, Loveland, Windsor, Greeley, and all the little towns in between, but the drives can get scary in the winter if you chose the mountains and pretty far if you look at the outskirts where things are cheapest (like Nunn).
 
Congrats to all :) can't wait to meet my future classmates!
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on housing. Most of the housing that Im finding online have pet restrictions, and Im bringing my 3 little rascals. I don't really know the area, I've never been to Fort Collins...heck, Ive never been to Colorado. If anyone could head me in the right direction, my pups and I would really appreciate it.

CSU has a rental listing that is specifically for DVM students - you'll be given the link and the password with your acceptance paperwork. Join your class Facebook page too, because there will be postings coming up from upperclassmen looking for new roomies or advertising their vacant homes. You'll probably have much better luck with these resources than with "public"listings as far as finding something vet student-friendly.
 
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CSU has a rental listing that is specifically for DVM students - you'll be given the link and the password with your acceptance paperwork. Join your class Facebook page too, because there will be postings coming up from upperclassmen looking for new roomies or advertising their vacant homes. You'll probably have much better luck with these resources than with "public"listings as far as finding something vet student-friendly.

I tried finding the Class of 2020 one, and didn't see it... Just one already full of students. Which made no sense to me.

EDIT: Search "CSU Veterinary Medicine Class of 2020"
 
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There are lots of places with pet restrictions. (Which I personally think of as dumb. Big dogs are often better apartment dogs, 2 cats are less likely to get bored and pee all over than 1...)

Just keep watching Craigslist and the CSU apartment site. We haven't really gotten into rental season yet. I know at least 3 of the bigger rental companies ask about and list non renewals in Feb/March.

The pet friendly housing is out there and it will hit the Internet soon. You will have better luck with pricing in Laporte, Wellington, Loveland, Windsor, Greeley, and all the little towns in between, but the drives can get scary in the winter if you chose the mountains and pretty far if you look at the outskirts where things are cheapest (like Nunn).

I should probably stay away from scary drives to campus. I hail from sunny-none-snowy Puerto Rico, lol, would probably never make it to class under snowy conditions if I had to drive :chicken:.
Thanks for the info!
 
I should probably stay away from scary drives to campus. I hail from sunny-none-snowy Puerto Rico, lol, would probably never make it to class under snowy conditions if I had to drive :chicken:.
Thanks for the info!
If you live close to campus, you'll be fine!
 
Since I've been staying with my Aunt and Uncle, they've been telling everyone that I'm going to vet school in Colorado. I also spoke with the vet that I shadowed as well as my childhood vet (who went to CSU), and both of them basically said "Cancel all your other interviews and accept the offer." Has anyone else's family/friends/contacts reacted in the same way? I would love to just accept this offer so I don't have to fly around the country going to interviews and spending a lot more money, but on the other hand, I would hate to miss out at another school that may be a better fit‎.

If I received a WICHE spot at Colorado, it would be somewhat of a no brainer. ‎
 
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I should probably stay away from scary drives to campus. I hail from sunny-none-snowy Puerto Rico, lol, would probably never make it to class under snowy conditions if I had to drive :chicken:.
Thanks for the info!

That's a good call. I live close enough so I can walk to campus everyday and don't have to drive. I felt very lucky during finals week: The town was covered in dangerous white precipitation and many people found it difficult to get to school safely. Snow: it's fine when it visits, but I don't want it sticking around long.
 
Since I've been staying with my Aunt and Uncle, they've been telling everyone that I'm going to vet school in Colorado. I also spoke with the vet that I shadowed as well as my childhood vet (who went to CSU), and both of them basically said "Cancel all your other interviews and accept the offer." Has anyone else's family/friends/contacts reacted in the same way? I would love to just accept this offer so I don't have to fly around the country going to interviews and spending a lot more money, but on the other hand, I would hate to miss out at another school that may be a better fit‎.

If I received a WICHE spot at Colorado, it would be somewhat of a no brainer. ‎

It's #3 in the country for a reason. :)

I've sat in vet classes (junior level), had CSU vet professors in my undergrad classes, and they are all so amazing and friendly and welcoming. They really want you to thrive. I was in a DVM surgery class, and they let me see everything, do everything on cadavers, and mentored me as much as they could. COME BE A RAM WITH US!
 
Since I've been staying with my Aunt and Uncle, they've been telling everyone that I'm going to vet school in Colorado. I also spoke with the vet that I shadowed as well as my childhood vet (who went to CSU), and both of them basically said "Cancel all your other interviews and accept the offer." Has anyone else's family/friends/contacts reacted in the same way? I would love to just accept this offer so I don't have to fly around the country going to interviews and spending a lot more money, but on the other hand, I would hate to miss out at another school that may be a better fit‎.

If I received a WICHE spot at Colorado, it would be somewhat of a no brainer. ‎
It's funny I actually have a very similar situation with my family and people I know and I think you should keep an open mind about somewhere else being a better fit because I kind of think I like another school better for my personality even though while I was applying I thought if I got into CSU I would automatically accept it. And everyone says rankings are basically BS so don't let it tempt you too much! Go visit schools and talk to old students on here and things like that :)
 
Since I've been staying with my Aunt and Uncle, they've been telling everyone that I'm going to vet school in Colorado. I also spoke with the vet that I shadowed as well as my childhood vet (who went to CSU), and both of them basically said "Cancel all your other interviews and accept the offer." Has anyone else's family/friends/contacts reacted in the same way? I would love to just accept this offer so I don't have to fly around the country going to interviews and spending a lot more money, but on the other hand, I would hate to miss out at another school that may be a better fit‎.

If I received a WICHE spot at Colorado, it would be somewhat of a no brainer. ‎
I had pretty much this exact same thing happen to me when I was applying. I got accepted to my OOS dream school, which was the school in the state where the majority of my family lives, and they are all fanatics of that school (most importantly including myself!!). They all threw a gigantic fit (along with several insults....) when I finally decided to go to my IS school. But then time passed, they visited the school, saw how happy I was, and now they say nothing but good things about my school and proudly wear the school logo around.

I hate to be that person... but I say that if there are is a cheaper school out there that you still can interview at, go to it. I almost made the worst mistake of my financial life by almost not going to my IS interview. I fell in love with the school right there and then (another reason I would advocate going to interviews...), and still love it while conveniently saving over $300,000 in the long run.
 
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Well, obviously you should keep an open mind. But you'll probably find out about WICHE before your interviews, right?
 
I hate to be that person... but I say that if there are is a cheaper school out there that you still can interview at, go to it. I almost made the worst mistake of my financial life by almost not going to my IS interview. I fell in love with the school right there and then (another reason I would advocate going to interviews...), and still love it while conveniently saving over $300,000 in the long run.

Unfortunately, I don't have an IS school. I absolutely agree with everything you've said though, and that's why I want to go to the other interviews.

Well, obviously you should keep an open mind. But you'll probably find out about WICHE before your interviews, right?

I scheduled a tour of CSU next week. I feel like I'll have a better idea once I see the campus, but even if I really love it, I could still love another school more. I think WICHE decisions come at the end of January, and my Tufts interview is scheduled for January 20.
 
Unfortunately, I don't have an IS school. I absolutely agree with everything you've said though, and that's why I want to go to the other interviews.



I scheduled a tour of CSU next week. I feel like I'll have a better idea once I see the campus, but even if I really love it, I could still love another school more. I think WICHE decisions come at the end of January, and my Tufts interview is scheduled for January 20.
Did you apply to any other wiche schools?
 
Unfortunately, I don't have an IS school. I absolutely agree with everything you've said though, and that's why I want to go to the other interviews.



I scheduled a tour of CSU next week. I feel like I'll have a better idea once I see the campus, but even if I really love it, I could still love another school more. I think WICHE decisions come at the end of January, and my Tufts interview is scheduled for January 20.
Ooh oh, visit! When are you here? Do you need food recommendations or to meet any local vets or professors?

Honestly, any of you... if you come and want any tips about the area, the vets, where to find surgical experience outside of school, food, and whatever... let me know. If I can't help, I'll pass you to those who can. I've got friends in most of the classes of vet school right now, so might be able to set up something there too (with students, otherwise only repro and endocrinology profs).
 
In a chair?

Oh, that sounded worse typed out...
Let's try again...

Does it look suspiciously like downtown Disney?
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For those who don't know, downtown Disney was designed mostly based on Old Town Fort Collins. It was a very weird deja vu for me. (Photographic memory combined with the knowledge that I had never been in Colorado prior to this... it took me a while to piece together why I recognized the place.)
 
Unfortunately, I don't have an IS school. I absolutely agree with everything you've said though, and that's why I want to go to the other interviews.



I scheduled a tour of CSU next week. I feel like I'll have a better idea once I see the campus, but even if I really love it, I could still love another school more. I think WICHE decisions come at the end of January, and my Tufts interview is scheduled for January 20.
How did your tour and such go? Sorry I didn't get to meet you:(
 
In a chair?

Oh, that sounded worse typed out...
Let's try again...

Does it look suspiciously like downtown Disney?

I hope my unresponsiveness made you slightly uncomfortable! Just a tad.

How did your tour and such go? Sorry I didn't get to meet you:(

It went really well. It was informal since it wasn't during any scheduled tour dates which was fine by me. The student was very sweet, she took us through the first-year facilities and the VTH. Hopefully, come January 29, I hear what I want to hear and can meet you soon. We have songs to write :p.
 
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I hope my unresponsiveness made you slightly uncomfortable! Just a tad.



It went really well. It was informal since it wasn't during any scheduled tour dates which was fine by me. The student was very sweet, she took us through the first-year facilities and the VTH. Hopefully, come January 29, I hear what I want to hear and can meet you soon. We have songs to write :p.
You also have a cow to meet.
 
w2vm, meet Cow.

Cow, meet strange rolling thing with arms and a face.
She's sweet and squishy and you said you needed to get some hands on with large animals. She is learning to drive and has to get used to things with wheels anyway.
 

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Is anyone going to the Accepted Students day in February or knows what it's like/what they're going to talk about?
 
Is anyone going to the Accepted Students day in February or knows what it's like/what they're going to talk about?

I emailed to ask for the itinerary. It starts at 730AM and goes on until 5PM. Throughout the day they talk about the curriculum, research opportunities, and financing. There's also a faculty and student panel followed by tours of the facilities and bookstore.
 
Hmmm... Sounds like it's going to be almost identical to the pre-vet visit day they host! Minus the application info, of course.
 
wtf AZ.

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So does this mean if all the other WICHE applicants and Colorado admitted folk accepted their seats, and the class fills before we get our decisions, tough luck?
 
wtf AZ.

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So does this mean if all the other WICHE applicants and Colorado admitted folk accepted their seats, and the class fills before we get our decisions, tough luck?
I don't know how they do it now, but they used to try to hold seats for each state. I haven't kept up with the program since I left Montana though so I don't know anymore.

Sorry, I rushed on to soothe you but realized I'm old.
 
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wtf AZ.

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So does this mean if all the other WICHE applicants and Colorado admitted folk accepted their seats, and the class fills before we get our decisions, tough luck?
AZ is just being really slow. That's also what Washington said. I think you'd be ok if you were accepted though. That'd be super unfair.
 
wtf AZ.

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So does this mean if all the other WICHE applicants and Colorado admitted folk accepted their seats, and the class fills before we get our decisions, tough luck?

No. If you've been offered a seat, you're guaranteed a seat. Even if you're denied WICHE funding, you still have a seat as a non-sponsored student. Whether you'd want to pay non-sponsored tuition is another story....
 
I think this will more affect those of us who have literally NO decision.... Those of you that are admitted, you're in, your funding is just undecided whether you'll be wiche or OOS. The rest of us.... fml.
 
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So does this mean if all the other WICHE applicants and Colorado admitted folk accepted their seats, and the class fills before we get our decisions, tough luck?

I believe that CSU sets aside seats specific to each state. I can't find anything outlining the specific number they have set aside for each state (it's different depending on each WICHE state I believe), but their "Previously Admitted Classes" statistics separate out applications specifically from WICHE states, so those numbers might be helpful to look at.

http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/dvm-program/Pages/Compare-Previous-Admitted-DVM-Classes.aspx
 
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I believe that CSU sets aside seats specific to each state. I can't find anything outlining the specific number they have set aside for each state (it's different depending on each WICHE state I believe), but their "Previously Admitted Classes" statistics separate out applications specifically from WICHE states, so those numbers might be helpful to look at.

http://csu-cvmbs.colostate.edu/dvm-program/Pages/Compare-Previous-Admitted-DVM-Classes.aspx
Thanks! That was the chart I remembered referencing along with one in the WICHE booklet
 
This is what I was referring to, and is a line in my Non-sponsored acceptance letter:

Please know your rank as a WICHE candidate will not be affected by an acceptance/decline of (or no response to) this offer. If your name comes up on the WICHE Offer List after accepting, declining or not responding to this Nonsponsored offer, we will be happy to convert your Nonsponsored position to a WICHE offer. However, if our class is full and your WICHE state opens a position we may not be able to convert your Nonsponsored position to a WICHE position.
 
This is what I was referring to, and is a line in my Non-sponsored acceptance letter:
I think that is referencing something else. When I was a WICHE student, we got a similar warning specifically talking about a WICHE waitlist. So a certain number of seats were guaranteed between the states and the schools and once those were filled, normally they were done, but if someone declined the offer at a different school and they had nobody at that school to give the money to, they could potentially "open" another spot at a different school and allow for an extra seat. But it's up to the school. I do know that CSU still allocates it's seats based on funding, which is why alternates are often offered nonsponsored positions regardless of residency status. So likely this just means that if you aren't chosen as one of the primary WICHE seats, CSU will probably not allow for the funding of additional seats from your state.
 
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